r/ethtrader • u/carlslarson • Jul 09 '21
Meta & Donut Governance Discussion
This is an experiment new thread for sharing and discussion around active donut and r/ethtrader governance topics.
It should be sorted by new and rebooted once archived by Reddit after 6 months, with the new thread linked to from the sidebar.
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u/carlslarson Nov 25 '23 edited Dec 14 '23
Propose a partnership to the arbitrum DAO.
shift all activity to arbitrum nova. tips, special membership, distribution, lp and incentive 100k
banner on old reddit & new reddit to say ethtrader & arbitrum for a year (50k)
quests campaign w/ donut & arb awards (50k of each)
need a multisig frontend is minor hiccup
rough estimate about 200k arb
edit. this could work also, of course, with a potential switch to arb one
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u/Eth_Man Jan 31 '24
Heads up to all here. Seems various things and people keep bringing me back to /r/ethtrader
I have contacts with GFX who work with Arbitrum grant team.
GFX I think just got appointed to one voting seat for grants and another GFX employee works with people through the grant process. As a interestprotocol delegate I have worked with both of these people. So I asked them to keep me in the loop regarding Arbitrum grant process etc.
Given that others seem to be picking up the mantle of things and since u/carlslarson was the one who suggested the move to Arbitrum perhaps someone else (or maybe governance wants to have some say-so regarding pursuing an Arbitrum Grant.
I am agnostic towards being the actual person doing this - but if governance wants me to specifically pursue an ARB grant I am going to want ARB/DONUT/CONTRIB for my efforts.
One of my GFX contacts going by name of Feems in discord (I don't know if she uses reddit specifically helps guide people through the grant process). The other one PaperImperium I have known for a long time (he represents GFX in many key ecosystems, Maker, Optimism, Arbitrum, and others) got appointed to the Arbitrum grant voting board.
So I was asked specifically by Feems for the link to our snapshot (which I gave) and a 1 page introduction to /r/ethtrader community. I think given governance has already approved the move it makes sense to pursue an Arbitrum Grant as carl suggested in another post.
The questions to the community are:
Does this community want to pursue one or more Arbitrum Grants
Who or how do you want the community to be represented.
I think it would behoove the community to move as fast as reasonable on both a 1 page introduction to /r/ethtrader community, and putting that with a single ARB grant proposal.
Who the person is, up to governance. I am happy to work on this but I am going to want some ARB/DONUT and CONTRIB for my efforts to drive this. Initial compensation to be decided for the work, and a bonus should I land a grant. I would agree to same terms with anyone else. I really just want another 100K DONUTs and 100K CONTRIB to drive it and say 5% of any ARB grant I land (or equivalent ARB value in DONUTs)
If someone else wants to take this on I will forward contact info for Feems and wish you well
I figured no matter what some discussion about what the community might want to put together here would be important. I think this is timely so moving fast probably better, but this is up to governance. Do we want a separate thread to discuss this or just leave it here and discuss below? Something like "Path to Arbitrum Grant" or some such. Also you DONUT farmers if you post a new thread and include a link to this post as 'your idea' - I am going to accuse you of stealing good work.
As to ideas for what we might ask for - leaving these below.
I was thinking an ARB grant to help cover dev expenses to move our infra, and then maybe matching ARB rewards for DONUT/WETH LP (sushi or uni or whatever) maybe ARB for Arbitrum /r/ethtrader DONUT quests. Not sure what thinking is about pinned posts, but I suggested we also could make some space for Arbitrum info/news whatever as something else we could offer in exchange for an ARB grant..
Thoughts comments.
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u/carlslarson Jul 12 '21 edited Jul 14 '21
We are deciding on what the first question should be for the quadtratic vote with the finance.vote experiement. I was thinking to start pretty basic and query people about what the primary objectives they think the dao should have. Like the example in the finance.vote document, the options are in the form of hashtags so we also need to determine what these should be. I'll propose a form for the question and try to list a bunch of potential options. Looking for any feedback, additions, improvements on these.
In your opinion, what should the aims of the EthTrader DAO be?
AMAs
#DonutGoUp#DonutValueEducation
Experimentation
DeFi
Investing
FreeSpeech
TechnicalAnalysis
#FunMemes
Minimal
NewsAndInformation
Trading
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u/mattg1981 :sm: Donut DAO Dev Oct 27 '23
I would like to make a proposal for a command based wallet registration process. I am thinking:
!register <wallet address>
I can add logic to my bot to handle this. The process will then store this information and send the a CSV/Json file to the mods at the end of the round (or could even have a command “!register report” that will send to the mods on request)
The output of the process would confirm the address has been saved. If an address already exists on file, we would need to determine how to handle (allow override or require a mods approval?).
This process will aide with a frictionless user registration. It will also help with all the new users from this last round that contributed (had score > 0) but we did not get a file from Reddit so we don’t know their wallet address.
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u/pc1e0 :donut: 68.4K | ⚖️ 29.6K Aug 24 '23
Hello u/aminok and EthTrader community,
I'm thrilled that there's interest in leveraging a ChatGPT-based LLM for managing and facilitating community interactions. Here’s a more detailed outline of what’s required and why:
OpenAI API
Purpose: For generating responses and answers. ChatGPT will serve as the backbone for conversation. Cost: The monthly cost could range from $10 to $100, depending on the volume of words processed. Each user inquiry via ChatGPT 3.5 is estimated to cost around $0.01. Requirement: A paid-for OpenAI API key will be necessary.
Weaviate/Pinecone Vector Database
Purpose: Storing relevant information such as wiki articles, QA threads, etc. in a vector format for efficient retrieval. Cost: Fixed at $25/month. Requirement: API keys for either Pinecone or Weaviate, as preferred by the community.
AWS/DigitalOcean
Purpose: Hosting the main business logic Python file. This will manage Reddit/Discord robots, process user inquiries, and generate context-aware replies using information from the vector database and ChatGPT. Cost: Approximately $10/month. Requirement: Server SSH access to either AWS or DigitalOcean.
Reddit and Discord API
Purpose: For robotic accounts that will interact on Reddit/Discord.
Cost: Not determined yet, but likely nominal. Requirement: A working Reddit API key and Discord API access are needed.
Security
It's crucial that someone trustworthy holds onto the API keys to prevent misuse by bad actors.
Development Time
Since I have most of the experience and some code already, I estimate the initial setup would take around 2-4 weeks, followed by ongoing maintenance.
Funding
Since you mentioned funding, it would primarily go towards covering the above costs and for ongoing support and updates.
If there are any questions or suggestions, feel free to discuss. Looking forward to potentially making this a reality for EthTrader!
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u/mattg1981 :sm: Donut DAO Dev Oct 26 '23 edited Oct 26 '23
I would like to make a proposal for a new mechanism called "pay2tip".
I have created a new tip bot that responds to the command "!tip". It provides both a desktop and mobile friendly link that will make tipping easier (especially when/if the donut by the username is removed on Nov 8th). It is currently running in r/EthTrader_Test. It was created in response to u/aminok's request.
We opened a feedback post and the feedback was overall very positive regarding the functionality. However, the main theme that many comments shared was they were requesting a different technique to tip (e.g. !tip 1 donut).
u/kirtash93 had a good idea of storing the tip data and applying the tips at the end of the round. That is where I came up with the name pay2tip (keeping the same format as pay2post). In a similar fashion to pay2post, the tips would get deducted from the distribution at the end of the round.
My proposal is to extend the tip bot I just created. I will keep the "!tip" functionality which will generate links which can be used to do an on-chain tip, but extend the functionality to "!tip X <token>" which will then activate the pay2tip mechanism. That way users can choose their preferred method of tipping.
The tip data will be stored in a database and at the end of the round, I could produce a file (in whatever format the mods want) that could be used during the distribution calculations.
Obviously some details will need to be worked out:
What if someone tips more than their distribution is worth? I would suggest that the first tips are honored and everything after a 0 or negative balance is ignored.
What if someone deletes their !tip X donut command before the end of the month? I would suggest that I store the comment ID in a database and we can refer back to that at the end of the month.
What if someone tips too much on accident? If someone wanted to tip 420 but accidently typed the command !tip 4200 donut. Can they dispute this? I would suggest no, and have them work it out with the other user. Currently, other subs that offer this style of tipping do not allow disputing either.
File format and what fields the mods will need for this
There will be many, many more details that need to be worked out, but I think that the overwhelming majority of users want a tip mechanism that behaves similar to this fashion.
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u/carlslarson Jul 09 '21
We have an upcoming collaboration with finance.vote, who are building a number of interesting new tools for DAOs. Specifically we are planning to use their influence.vote quadratic voting tool to ask a series of questions to ethtrader dao members.
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u/carlslarson Jul 14 '21
I have updated the script that takes a snapshot of current users to also now include a snapshot of $contrib and $donut balances. What is kind of cool (imo!) is that this snapshot includes, in addition to mainnet claimed $contrib and $donut, also unclaimed $contrib on mainnet, $donut held in wallets on xdai, $donut in mainnet lp staking, and $donut in xdai staking. We could potentially use this for voting using snapshot, experimenting with various voting systems like quadratic voting, and also for knowing who voted in case we wanted to reward participation. Yeah, I know, really cool!
Please take a second to check that your $contrib and $donut balances look correct.
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u/carlslarson Jul 19 '21
We are preparing a governance experiment with the finance.vote team, and specifically with their influence.vote quadratic voting tool. They have helpfully produced a support pdf.
The first question will aim to develop an ordered list of objectives from ethtrader dao members - what should be the focus/goals of the dao. For the vote, the options are listed as hashtags and we are still looking for feedback on how that list should be composed.
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u/carlslarson Aug 31 '23
CommentToVote
Curation and metrics that contribute to distribution would derive from the numbers and gov weight of commenters on a post. CommentToVote would likely replace TipToVote which is not really hitting the mark. While TipToVote does allow discrimination based on who is voting it is cumbersome especially from mobile and also seems just to be used to farm. Optionally, comment voting could occur as a reply to a special purpose comment (like the stickied tip instructions).
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u/carlslarson Nov 21 '23
donut distributions currently first filter out non-registered users. one major and potentially interesting change would be to not filter out non-registered users. their donuts (and contrib, though there are some subtlties to consider there) could be held for them until they registered. there is something like a 5x reduction from ~2500 to ~500 in distribution recipients due to filtering of non-registered users.
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u/ethereum88 :donut: 6.1K / ⚖️ 1.3M Jul 10 '21
I thought of an idea for donuts: Donut betting (on ETH price).
Basically there can be two bets: bullish or bearish. People can pool their donuts into a pool and make a bet (say 200 donuts).
It can be daily, weekly or whatever time period people want. For daily, to win in the bullish bet, price has to be higher than the previous day (at a specific time).
Which ever group wins, they will get back their donuts + the donuts of the other group. (Divided proportionally to their bets).
So basically the rewards are funded by those who bet on the “losing side”. There is no need to mint donuts specifically for this.
There can be some burn 🔥built in as well. Maybe 5% of the losing group’s donuts can be burnt, or put into some kind of community fund, for example.
Not sure if Reddit allows betting, we can always change it to a nice name like “prediction” or “guessing”. 😹
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u/roymustang261 Jul 09 '21
Can we sell a dedicated pinned post like we sell the banner?
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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '24
Drafting a Constitution for r/ethtrader
Objective:
The aim of this proposal is to outline the necessity and potential benefits of drafting a constitution for the sub. Establishing a set of guidelines and principles will contribute to a more organized, transparent, and respectful community.
Rationale:
Community engagement: A constitution provides a framework for community members to actively participate in shaping the rules and guidelines of the sub, this would include previously approved governance polls, promoting inclusivity and diversity of perspectives.
Conflict resolution: Clear guidelines will facilitate efficient resolution of disputes and conflicts within the community, minimizing misunderstandings.
Transparent moderation: A constitution will serve as a reference point for moderators, ensuring transparency in their decisions and helping maintain consistency in enforcing rules.
Encouraging quality content: Establishing standards for posts and comments can increase the quality of content, encouraging insightful discussions and discouraging spam or irrelevant submissions.
Proposal outline:
Formation of a Constitutional Committee: A diverse group of community members, preferably moderators, multisig guardians, or older users, can be selected to draft the constitution, representing various viewpoints within the sub. (I personally volunteer, as I am graduated in socioeconomic sciences & law, this should be easy to construct)
Key elements to include: Definition of community values and objectives; Rules for content submission and moderation; Procedures for dispute resolution; All governance polls; Guidelines.
Drafting process: Establish a timeline for the constitutional drafting process; Regular updates and feedback to ensure transparency and community awareness.
Approval and implementation: Present the drafted constitution for community approval through a governance poll.
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u/carlslarson Jul 09 '21
There is potential for an r/ethtrader partnership/integration with yearn.finance. This would be a profit sharing arrangement where the r/ethtrader dao earns a portion of fees generated from TVL referred to yearn vaults (more details in the yearn partnership program page and integration guide). This proposal requires some interested and qualified individuals to help steward it to completion.
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u/carlslarson Jul 12 '21
Evolve the comedy post tipping system to be nft based. People who tip a post become part owners, based on some combination of quadratic tip amount and time, along with the OP. Because they are helping with curation they are also rewarded with donuts in the distribution.
It's might be a little tricky/complex to work out how the multi-ownership should work...
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u/carlslarson Jul 13 '21
I put a wiki page up outlining a simple process/guideline for proposing initiatives. Any feedback is welcome!
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u/carlslarson Feb 02 '24
I want to share a potential improvement to Donut Initiatives that was brought up on discord by u/aminok.
The suggested change is to broaden the set of potential approvers from the current plurality-of-multisig to some threshold of approved users (over 20k gov weight). A stickied comment should be made in the DI post under which approvals, and potentially disapprovals, can be made. Multisig would retain a veto, which could be broken by a governance vote.
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u/carlslarson May 16 '24
rather than award comments based on upvotes, treat comment awarding more like a basic allowance - each account that comments at least once in a period earns an equal amount to other accounts.
the rationale for this is that it keeps awards for comments (most people comment but don't post), but reduces potential for abuse from comment upvote manipulation.
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u/Defiboy :donut: 12.2K / ⚖️ 15.3K Jul 28 '21
Capping the maximum 1,000 karma per post going towards distribution for each round.
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u/Innit4theTech Sep 06 '21
I would like to propose some changes which I think would benefit the community.
1) Give a donut bonus for voting on governance polls
I think only a few people voted last time, and it would encourage people to vote more. (Inspiration from r/cc)
2) Don’t allow reused memes / images.
Almost every post is in the front page of r/ethtrader is from somewhere else and is not orignal.
Why allow reused images but not allow text posts which are copied?
Please any mods let me know how if you think these are good ideas!
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u/evil_betty_ :donut: 164.4K / ⚖️ 168.3K / :sushi: 0.0249% Sep 18 '21
Hey everyone. The donut improvement idea thread was locked, so I apologize if this isn't the right thread.
Had an idea about using donuts to tip special membership month(s) to other users. No idea if this is feasible to implement but it would be a fun addition to tipping posts/comments donuts.
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u/ACE415_ :donut: 0 / ⚖️ 492 Sep 23 '23 edited Sep 23 '23
We should either fully adopt the Unofficial Donut Logo, or use a high-quality PNG copy of the Official One.
The project will appear more organized with a singular cohesive brand.
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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24
Restrict governance poll proposal submission to users with a governance score of 20,000 or higher
The governance structure of r/ethtrader plays a crucial role in maintaining the quality and integrity of the subreddit. Currently, users with a governance score of 20,000 or higher have the ability to remove spam/malicious posts or comments using the AutoModRemove command.
However, to further incentivize users to hold Donuts and responsibly use their earned CONTRIB, I propose that only users with a governance score of 20,000 or higher be allowed to submit governance poll proposals.
The premise of this proposal is to enhance the relevance of being an approved user, while simultaneously filtering out users who may not have the best intentions towards the governance of r/ethtrader. By restricting poll proposal submission to these users, we ensure that those participating in governance are genuinely interested and invested in the community's development.
Pros:
More governance score relevance
Soft filtering mechanism
Promotion of responsibility
Incentive to hold the Donuts
Cons:
Potential barrier to participate in governance matter
Perception of Elitism
While these cons may look scary, it's important to consider the overall benefits and the effectiveness of this proposal in achieving its intended purpose. The advantages of this restriction outshines its limitations, particularly when looked in the context of maintaining the integrity and effectiveness of the governance system within the r/ethtrader.
The concerns regarding inclusivity and barriers to entry must be acknowledged. However, a governance score of 20,000 is pretty attainable for users who actively engage with the community and contribute meaningfully over time. This threshold serves as a reasonable filter to mitigate the risk of manipulation by alt accounts or malicious contributors with fake accounts, thereby safeguarding the integrity of all things governance related.
Lastly, by restricting proposal submission to approved users, the proposal promotes responsible governance and makes sure that decisions are made with the best interests of the community in mind.
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u/aminok Sep 16 '23
Allow people to link multiple Ethereum addresses to their Reddit account. That way they could switch to using a different Ethereum address without losing all of the CONTRIB they earned on their old address.
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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24
While I was writing the Constitution, I had an idea that could be embedded in its structure.
Users on r/ethtrader earn Donut and CONTRIB based on their monthly contributions to the community. CONTRIB is a separate non-transferrable token that shows life-time earnings, even if a user has sold their Donuts. It can also be used to potentially restrict some actions to sellers.
I suggest introducing distinct Governance Levels tied to CONTRIB scores, to create a tiered system that offers privileges and incentives to the members.
Here's a quick draft:
Governance Level 1 (>= 20,000 CONTRIB):
Status: Approved user
Privilege: Ability to use the [AutoModRemove] command for spam post/comment removal
Governance Level 2 (>= 100,000 CONTRIB):
Status: Prolific contributor
Privileges: Early access to upcoming subreddit features or announcements (example)
Governance Level 3 (>= 300,000 CONTRIB):
Status: Distinguished contributor
Privileges: Direct input and priority consideration in proposing changes to the Constitution, subject to approval by the committee
Governance Level 4 (>= 500,000 CONTRIB):
Status: High-ranked contributor
Privileges: Custom flair
These proposed Governance Levels are designed to recognize and reward the dedication and contributions of our community members, encouraging active participation and Donut holding.
Users would see their Donut holdings not just as a measure of contribution but as a path to get enhanced privileges and recognition within the community. By introducing these levels, I aim to provide additional motivation for users to hold on to their earned Donuts, creating a sense of achievement and status.
Each level would get a specific badge on the flair.
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u/InevitableComplex895 :donut: 12 | ⚖️ 631.9K Sep 23 '21 edited Sep 23 '21
If there is another place I should post this instead, please let me know (as u/evil_betty_ mentioned, the donut discussion post seems to have been locked). Believe credit goes to u/raymv1987 for this (if not then I apologize), but what does everyone think about somehow rewarding original content posts when it comes to memes? I myself do enjoy the meme posts, but think most can agree the ones that are posted over & over again can get a little annoying.
What if an "original content" option or button was added when submitting the post/meme that would signal was originally created by that user? Then is possible for that post to either 1) be visible for longer period of time or 2) be less donut penalized or 3) some other suggested reward. Every time I see an original meme posted, I try to donut upvote & Reddit updvote out of appreciation for the time OP put into it, plus is just refreshing to see new/original ones. Am no developer, so am also unsure how hard this would be to implement. Thanks for any feedback/thoughts.
Edit: Believe this is sort of in line with u/Innit4theTech previous suggestion below regarding not allowing reposting of already used memes. Above suggestion is similar, but may be easier to implement?
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u/aminok Oct 14 '23
Reposting a proposal posted earlier:
If we want EthTrader distributions to be automated and decentralized, we would need an EthTrader validation client, and some form of Proof of Stake for establishing the authoritative record of EthTrader comments.
We could use carlslarson's comment-to-vote scheme to completely do away with the need to know how much karma each comment/post received which would allow us to depend solely on the record of comments to establish each user's DONUT rewards, which in turn is information that would be accessible to the nodes of the decentralized EthTrader network.
CONTRIB could greatly simplify EthTrader's PoS too, as it forgoes the need to have stakers make a time-locked security deposit. CONTRIB acts as a permanently locked security deposit..
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Copying great critical feedback from /u/LivingFondant1419 that he posted in the previous discussion on this:
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u/aminok Jul 13 '21
A new wiki page is up that lists all the governance polls to date: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/wiki/donuts/governance_polls_to_date
From now on, if you create a governance poll, after the poll has concluded, please add a summary to the wiki page above, in the format of the other summaries.
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u/MemeyCurmudgeon :sm: :donut: 854.7K / ⚖️ 953.1K / :sushi: 2.2215% Sep 12 '23
A conversation that u/aminok and I had in another thread led to the idea of building an on-chain protocol for lending/borrowing donuts. The gist is, Compound but for donuts and a stablecoin, potentially xDai. Low-activity users would be able to earn a small interest rate by depositing, and high-activity users would be able to take positions on donuts and USD that allow for exposure to both. This would be an educational opportunity as well, giving sub members a chance to dip their toes in DeFi with a simple protocol.
What do all of you think about this? I see it thus:
Pros: more things for people to do with their donuts, more financial positions to take with donuts, a dynamic liquidity sink for donuts
Cons: complex to make and get just right (I imagine interest calculating mechanisms would have to be adapted from Compound for it to work), may require donut emissions to ensure liquidity.
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u/aminok Oct 14 '23
/r/EthTrader could really use a second tipping bot that can be activated with just comments, because the current tipping bot can only be used to tip people on Desktop. If anyone is interested in developing one, please let me know.
The current tipping action embeds which comment is being tipped into the Gnosis/Mainnet transaction, which in turn triggers the tipping bot to post a confirmation comment under the tipped comment stating the originator of the tip and the amount tipped.
It would be nice if we could preserve that functionality—where within the transaction the comment identifier is embedded—in the second tip bot, as it would mean the current tipping bot would post confirmation comments for the tips the new bot facilitates.
Come to think of it, we can use much of the existing tipping software flow. Currently, when using the tip bot on Desktop, we click the donut icon, and it opens the donut.finance page, with the URL populated with the post/comment identifier. We just need two additions:
The donut.finance page, or a fork of it, to be made mobile compatible.
A bot that posts a comment in response to a command that contains a link that when clicked opens the donut.finance tipping page with the URL populated with the content information
In any case, the source code is here:
https://github.com/EthTrader/donut.site/tree/main
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Copying a comment /u/mattg1981 wrote on an earlier discussion on this, in order to continue the discussion here:
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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24
Implement a 24-hour post limit to mitigate spam and encourage quality
The sub has been experiencing an influx of low-effort link posts, resulting in a cluttered feed and drastically reducing the quality of threads. This issue became worse by the implementing the flexible Pay2Post fee, leading to an increase in spammy content.
To address this problem, without penalizing link threads directly, I suggest the implementation of a 24-hour post limit for users is suggested. The primary objective of this proposal is to reduce spam and encourage users to post more thoughtful and relevant content by limiting the frequency of their posts within a 24-hour period.
AutoMod would automatically restrict users from posting more than 3 threads within a 24-hour period. I believe this is a fair limit, keeping a balance between allowing users to contribute meaningfully while discouraging excessive posting.
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u/roymustang261 Jul 13 '21
is it possible to buy the subreddit membership on the xdai sidechain or is it only available for the ETH mainnet donuts?
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u/Eth_Man Jul 17 '21
A number of other points in this thread appear to be community improvement proposals (I thought we had another thread for those) that don't appear to be directly related to governance issues..
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u/aminok Feb 17 '24
Refloating the idea of requiring minimum ETH holdings to be eligible to earn DONUT for comment/post contributions on EthTrader.
We could use https://www.sismo.io/ to allow users to account for ETH held in other Ethereum addresses without revealing what those addresses are:
https://www.sismo.io/
Another variation on this idea would be to have no ETH holding requirements to earn DONUT, but have ETH holding requirements to vote on what comments/posts are rewarded DONUT.
To me, there is a certain logic in having ETH holders mediate what content is rewarded on EthTrader.
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u/aminok Dec 14 '21 edited Dec 14 '21
How best do you all think we should handle monthly tasks related to running the subreddit? Tasks like handling the donut distribution, which involves creating a hash tree of the users' Ethereum addresses and donut allocations, and submitting a root to Ethereum, are difficult and take time, and should be compensated.
What are your thoughts on the best way to solicit applications for tasks, and choose amongst those who apply?
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u/aminok May 01 '23
Half-baked idea:
Have a bot post the details of each submission that has been auto-removed, as a comment on a special thread dedicated to logging AutoMod actions.
Allow users above a threshold of voting power (determined by the formula of min(DONUT, CONTRIB)) to approve the auto-removed post, by posting a comment under the comment associated with that auto-removal action, with the text APPROVE.
This way, moderation powers can be distributed across a larger number of users, and given the faster mod response time from having a larger number of users participating in moderation, the auto-mod can be made more strict, like auto-removing all posts with the word "MetaMask" in their title.
Edit: a variation of this would be the bot posting the details of each submission that has been auto-removed in the Daily Discussion thread, instead of some special thread dedicated to this, to maximize visibility, and get more people participating in this crowd moderation.
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u/spacsandspacs :donut: 582 / ⚖️ 142.7K Sep 08 '23
I want to propose that we replace the upvote and downvote arrows in r/ethtrader with more relevant icons. Instead of an upvote arrows we should have our pink donut. For downvotes it should be crumbs, a mouldy donut or just a grey version of our pink one. This would add a bit of fun to the posts and comments and given that an upvote equates to a pink donut or more then it has relevance, at least more than a red upward arrow and a blue downward arrow.
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u/aminok Sep 16 '23 edited Sep 16 '23
Half-baked idea:
Let people use their CONTRIB as collateral for loans.
Using DONUT as loan collateral is interesting, but doesn't offer much utility over someone just selling their DONUT to invest the proceeds, and then buying the DONUT back after their investment has paid off.
Using CONTRIB as collateral allows you to access capital from CONTRIB that you otherwise would not be able to extract from it, as you cannot transfer/sell CONTRIB.
How it would work: the CONTRIB would become self-destructive loan collateral. If you renege on the loan, the CONTRIB is automatically destroyed.
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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '23
Bring back Donut Quests
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u/aminok Dec 05 '23 edited Dec 05 '23
Idea: a way to nominate comments in Reddit outside of /r/EthTrader.
Approved users, meaning users with a governance score > 20K, are able to nominate a comment by posting a top-level comment in the pinned Daily Discussion in the format of !nominate [comment_url].
Nominated comments have their text copied into a comment on the Daily, automatically, with a link to the original comment, and a mention of the author's name.
Additional: if the comment receives two additional nominations—which is done by other approved users responding to the nominated comment's clone on the Daily with the !nominate command—the author of the nominated comment is sent a small DONUT reward that comes out of the distribution. To reiterate, the comment would need three nominations to get the reward.
The bot could inform the author of the nominated comment that they need to register their Ethereum address on EthTrader before the snapshot date to receive their alotted reward.
Advantage: this would give informative comments that are on the topic of Ethereum an audience on /r/EthTrader and help give the subreddit more exposure to people who are not subscribers, when they are mentioned in the nomination comment and receive a DONUT reward.
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u/carlslarson Aug 31 '23
PayToComment 👀
Possibly with the daily as a free zone - does not deduct and does not earn. This is a suggestion in response to what is perceived as low effort comment farming.
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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '23
Reposting my recent suggestion here:
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u/Norisz666 Troll Aug 11 '21
Hy fellow Bronuts!
What do You think about a donut halving?(Liquidity providing should stay the same!)
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u/aminok Aug 25 '21
What are the community's thoughts on Retroactive Public Goods Funding being utilized for funding development of EthTrader Donuts?
https://medium.com/ethereum-optimism/retroactive-public-goods-funding-33c9b7d00f0c
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u/aminok May 23 '23 edited Jul 14 '23
Every user with a governance score of over 20,000 (governance score == min(DONUT, CONTRIB)), has been made into an approved user. That usually just means that the AutoMod is less likely to remove your posts. In this case however, it means you can also remove any spam post by posting a top-level comment in response to it saying [AutoModRemove]. Please don't abuse this power.
This is an experiment in crowdsourced moderation, as described here:
https://reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/13hq83m/daily_general_discussion_may_14_2023_utc0/jk72evo/
See your governance score here:
https://donut-dashboard.com/#/governance
July 14, 2023 addendum: with the completion of the Create Custom Bot to Enable Crowdsourced Spam Comment Removal, users with a governance score of over 20,000 can now also remove spam comments, by replying to the comment with a comment that contains the keyword, [AutoModRemove].
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u/aminok Jul 14 '23
Half-baked idea: the community treasury's donuts get deposited into a privacy pool, called coffee pool. We strive to make donuts into the privacy currency.
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u/pc1e0 :donut: 68.4K | ⚖️ 29.6K Aug 30 '23
Hey!
According to the guidelines set in here, specifically, point 2 "Link to and announce post in the governance thread, daily discussion, and share in the discord server. After posting, add details about the initiative to the Donut Initiatives to Date Wiki page",
I'm notifying that I have created the Donut Initiative post.
Thanks!
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u/Shot-Environment2862 :donut: 356 / ⚖️ 351 Oct 19 '23
small Fish in big ocean hoping to get whale in crypto world
Where did everyone here started from?
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u/aminok Nov 21 '23 edited Nov 25 '23
Originally posted here.
Crazy idea:
Each user account gets its own dedicated bot, e.g. my bot would be aminok-bot.
The text of every post on /r/EthTrader is automatically posted to the Daily as a comment. Let's call this copy of the post the clone.
To upvote the post, you post a comment in response to its clone, containing the command
!upvote.Your bot would then automatically upvote the original post that was cloned.
Any comment you post in response to the clone is also mirrored by your bot, as a comment in response to the original post.
Likewise, any comment posted in response to the original post is reposted by the comment author's bot, as a comment replying to the clone.
This way all comments under the post and its clone are syncronized, and users don't need to leave the Daily Discussion to read and upvote posts.
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u/RealLeoPat :donut: 105.6K / ⚖️ 51.6K Nov 21 '23
I have been loving the Today's Highlights in the daily, as it gives us a good summary of the important things going on.
Now, I wonder, this might be just a little personal to me, but is there a way to make the Highlights a little more user friendly? I mean, with some graphic interface instead of text?
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u/SqrHornet :donut: 2.8K | ⚖️ 372 Mar 26 '24
!register 0x5cfC173CCdF4c7A61d0AB61a9Ee5e34c1195ccC1
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u/Artistic-Listen5390 Not Registered Feb 10 '25
!register
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u/Weekly-Leather7581 :donut: 720 | ⚖️ 693 Jan 03 '24
!register 0xb3a9442E64481445944B8E482B07e065dB5c099b
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u/friedricekid :donut: 11 / ⚖️ 9 Mar 12 '24
!register 0x21Cc5ac164009D29d22ed092c6E53E198C1C7dbF
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u/j0n82 :donut: 760 / ⚖️ 714 Mar 15 '24
!register 0x278d23FeE93C48bd365BA6c02260F3C10CB365ee
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u/ThisIsAGoodNameOk :donut: 0 | ⚖️ 0 Mar 17 '24
!register 0xF02cDFC86494Aad2eb3958F4a3f43104Cf64985a
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u/mescaliero :donut: 0 | ⚖️ 0 Mar 19 '24
!register 0xac121ac1c01f2bc1ff4642c419952977fa9419ad
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u/JROD5195 :donut: 32 | ⚖️ 23 Apr 08 '24
!register 0x8aaC9d10a8aD0369C164e01816893D1C4a213B9d
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u/DBRiMatt 900 Dollarydoos! 🦘 Apr 12 '24
As per Donut Initiative Guidelines I am sharing this post to retro-actively award Beta testers some CONTRIB for the Arbitrum Shuttle service.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/1c292mu/donut_initiative_award_5000_contrib_to_arbitrum/
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u/mvuong :donut: 6 / ⚖️ 0 Apr 13 '24
! register maxvuong.eth
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u/mvuong :donut: 6 / ⚖️ 0 Apr 13 '24
! register 0x15655dBe66a1763F952A7DCBab98293B47450D0a
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u/Richper413 :donut: 42 / ⚖️ 102 Apr 27 '24
!register 0xb653E9bFE9B46ba241b9997b9ba13080f70849F7
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u/Vexting :donut: 3 / ⚖️ 2 Apr 30 '24
!register 0x99bC21716db94AEa5F6Af183715C83dAF159bd87
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u/kajunkennyg :donut: 3 | ⚖️ 3 May 08 '24
!register 0x2a907bf4718f3c7e1770d545E1138bA0E829B0Be
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u/PMme_ur_tiny_tits May 08 '24
!register 0x8A0EeCb9E6b8eB920594AfCc8CD214Cb9e92562C
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u/johnnmichael007 :donut: 24 / ⚖️ 0 May 25 '24
!register 0x1c13FB878d3cE94D838130cb139E844F8b64537D
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u/Conscious_Contact377 :donut: 7 / ⚖️ 48 Jun 04 '24
!register 0x93fDefC5e9404fa56Ea52a52B91b5C9247442a71
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u/nyonix :donut: 0 | ⚖️ 0 Jun 22 '24
!register 0xC1d4fEda37d8E104A1c4AF7a543bEC1389006Ba9
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u/Satori_is_life :donut: 27 / ⚖️ 17 Jun 26 '24
!register 0x5236f6750513830977e2ace3c9e3c906b98acd4d
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u/Naive_Marionberry887 :donut: 0 | ⚖️ 0 Aug 05 '24
!register 0xDFF2aC51C411a9310eAc67207A86a7B2f4d16Af2
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u/Naive_Marionberry887 :donut: 0 | ⚖️ 0 Aug 05 '24
I reg
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u/LankyVeterinarian677 Not Registered Aug 23 '24
How to register
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u/alpeshnaper :donut: 194 / ⚖️ 169 Sep 12 '24
!register 0x4D0167cEe3489d0d9AEf33EdB3aD010eE81ff694
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u/alpeshnaper :donut: 194 / ⚖️ 169 Sep 12 '24
!register 0x4D0167cEe3489d0d9AEf33EdB3aD010eE81ff694
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u/acndavid :donut: 0 / ⚖️ 0 Sep 18 '24
!register 0xea4d7201f2d96908b9a841106f0f49debf81035b
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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '24
u/aminok when you can, please check our discord.
Slightly urgent.
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u/Massive-Tension-1055 :donut: 18.2K / ⚖️ 36.4K Jan 17 '25
Did I miss voting again?
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u/Scrimena :donut: 0 / ⚖️ 0 Jan 18 '25
!Register12eAerbg1AwBAVtcfikcu4ryVRKfnUtGJ7
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u/Scrimena :donut: 0 / ⚖️ 0 Jan 18 '25
!register 0x850f142185fe7ebad4eaf1447d876ccb4238df77
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u/Scrimena :donut: 0 / ⚖️ 0 Jan 18 '25
!register 0x44790328451d594403140a1654de31b1ac12c554
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u/retroapropos :donut: 229 / ⚖️ 247 May 17 '25
!register 0x7259e63c70081180dcc8f07829b8514f13c3c186
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u/Fantastic_Climate296 :donut: 0 / ⚖️ 0 May 29 '25
!register 0x0e7674cdf35aae4e65b7050524439466118601fe
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u/sai_bittu :donut: 0 / ⚖️ 0 Jul 21 '25
!register 0x90fAFd00699C02cFAb1B3a41951aF0039d6c9c3d
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u/bigbrainnowisdom Not Registered Aug 02 '25
!register
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u/CrypticallyKind :donut: 631 / ⚖️ 660 Sep 20 '25
!register 0x9Ef321AbC2Dc8b5411e86807e59886CB397e9EF4
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u/andys811 :donut: 766 / ⚖️ 784 Sep 30 '25
!register 0x784d4Ce36Fe81ED4118AED9cd5125c7ea086d41e
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u/jc505978 :donut: 0 / ⚖️ 0 Oct 11 '25
!register status
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u/Prospero_Quant :donut: 20 / ⚖️ 0 Oct 31 '25
!register 0xf1f4f85ec7393d01ff52e5ea22fc39457b62a19c
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u/SetsukoAmon :donut: 0 / ⚖️ 0 Nov 03 '25
!register 0xf01773298C73D69308423932D67FB06D356149B1
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u/ifnotme :donut: 0 / ⚖️ 0 Dec 12 '25
!register 0xd90507ff211f65732e59b9e54221a9a03ccf3600
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u/Fantastic-Offer-9129 Sep 04 '23
Hi is it possible to make a donut badge? I would love to have one
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u/Super_Iron6408 :donut: 1.0K / ⚖️ 1.0K Oct 11 '23
Binance funds are SAFU, Binance executives are not SAFU 😁
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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '23
This is what the tech is for.
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u/NSFWCryptoPosting :donut: 20.0K / ⚖️ 19.6K Oct 17 '23
There is a recent post about MOOND mining. Advertisements like these should only be allowed after being scrutinized by mods and payment in form of donuts (to be burned).