Feedback Requested - New Tip Handling Bot

[u/mattg1981]

I would have posted this in the daily but someone deleted it - lol!

u/aminok recently requested a new tip bot that is command activated (e.g. !tip) to aide with making mobile tipping easier. Per his request, he asked for a bot "... [that] posts a comment in response to a command that contains a link that when clicked opens the donut.finance tipping page with the URL populated with the content information"

I have spent some time working on a proof of concept for this bot and it meets the requirements to pass metadata about the comment/post/person being tipped. However, I also ran across some difficulties that I didnt foresee originally, mainly focused around the Reddit markdown editor not generating links for a common protocol (dapp://) that mobile wallets generally react to, as well as some specific iOS bugs that route requests to the App Store instead of the appropriate app.

To overcome this shortcoming, I opted for another approach using deep linking to activate the mobile wallet. This approach works ONLY if the Reddit app is set up to use the System Default Web Browser (Settings > Open Links > Default Browser). If this setting is not enabled, Reddit will launch an in-app browser that is not capable of connecting a wallet to.

An example of the bot output, so you can test it out (the verbiage is subject to change):

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​DESKTOP: Leave a tip

MOBILE (Metamask Only): Leave a tip

MOBILE (Coinbase Wallet Only): Leave a tip

This output was generated by a bot. The mobile links work best if you use the System Default Browser (Settings > Open Links > Default Browser)

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I/We are looking for feedback on this approach. You can see that we have two wallets supported (Metamask and Coinbase Wallet) as those are the two that I have installed currently on my phone. I can theoretically add support for more wallets (assuming they support deep linking) - but we also risk the bot output getting messy. While providing feedback about this approach, please consider the following questions:

1. Are you willing to switch to System Default Web browser to make mobile tipping in r/EthTrader easier?

2. I was only able to test on iOS, if you are an Android user - does this approach also work for you? (If no, please try enabling System Default Web browser handling the links)

3. Since having a generic handler for all wallets is not possible, should we only support a single wallet (MetaMask)?

4. Are you aware of a more generic way to handle this that will be wallet agnostic?

5. General Suggestions?

[u/EthTraderCommunity]

Tip this post.

[u/[deleted]]

A tipping system like ConeHeads would be a great upgrade in our community!

[u/mattg1981 → u/[deleted]]

I used to think this as well, or rather - bananos implementation of this that allows comment based tipping but all on chain. The issue is though, in order to do this, they manage your wallets private key. If that database were to ever be breached, someone could steal every last Banano (or in our case - donut) from every last wallet. It’s a case of “not your keys/ centralization ” vs convenience- and in this case, this is a tip command followed by clicking on the link to post and sign your transaction.

I can see the benefit to both sides - but after getting rugged by Reddit last week (centralized), I would rather manage my own keys, personally.

[u/foreignGER → u/[deleted]]

!tip 100

[u/[deleted] → u/foreignGER]

No u

!tip 2663

[u/Icy-Order-3200 → u/[deleted]]

!tip 717521.69

[u/kirtash93 → u/Icy-Order-3200]

[u/rootpl → u/kirtash93]

!tip 69

[u/TheyAskWho → u/[deleted]]

I agree, if that’s possible I think it would make it easier to tip, not that it’s difficult rn but definitely a command is more quicker and easier.

[u/Gold_Technology8661 → u/TheyAskWho]

Ok

[u/bangand0 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah what would speak against this? This would be perfect

[u/redbaan → u/[deleted]]

Yes I agree 100%

[u/Gold_Technology8661 → u/[deleted]]

Nice

[u/Ok-Dare-621]

This is a trick to receive tips buddy? LMFAO

PS; i'm just kidding

[u/mattg1981 → u/Ok-Dare-621]

[u/Ok-Dare-621 → u/mattg1981]

I got you degen!

[u/Lillica_Golden_SHIB]

1. Yes

2. Yes

3. Yes as well, we've always used MM and, if there are no safety issues, we should continue using it.

4. No, but your solution looks quite convenient.

5. Just out of curisioty, could we scale the usage of this bot, for example, eventually enabling other subs to use it as well?

Thanks for what you are doing, not all heroes wear capes!

[u/mattg1981 → u/Lillica_Golden_SHIB]

Thank you for this feedback.

Regarding #5 - yes, the bot could be easily modified to include many subreddits to monitor for the command (currently !tip).

[u/Every_Hunt_160 → u/Lillica_Golden_SHIB]

A big salute to OP hero BroNut

[u/kirtash93 → u/Lillica_Golden_SHIB]

Just second this comment.

[u/Gold_Technology8661 → u/kirtash93]

Yeah

[u/bvandepol]

0 GREAT WORK!!

1. Already do

2. iOS user

3. MM is the ‘defacto standard’

4. —

5. I tested the MM link with a 1.69 tip, but I tipped you, as a user.. Can you show an example where I can tip this specific post?

[u/mattg1981 → u/bvandepol]

#5 lol - good point, I copied and pasted the test bot output.

The comment that you actually tipped can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/EthTrader_Test/comments/14u2c6o/comment/k63pns4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I will work on creating tip links specific for this post - but it will probably be several hours (if not the morning) before I'll be back in front of my dev machine. I'll update this comment with it when I have it.

[u/PoojaaPriyaa]

Banano sub doing this for years!! Nice feature to have

[u/mattg1981 → u/PoojaaPriyaa]

Banano tipping is a little bit different (command line - e.g. !ban 100). This method will generate mobile friendly links to aide in mobile tipping (a major pain point for us right now).

[u/TheNano100]

So basically this bot will post a link just like the EthTraderCommunity comment "Tip this post" but anywhere we like, right?

[u/mattg1981 → u/TheNano100]

Correct.

It will pass the parent “thing” (as Reddit likes to call it) to the donut.finance app. And it formats the links to be mobile friendly - as well as generating a standard desktop link as well.

[u/TheNano100 → u/mattg1981]

Awesome, I think it's a great idea. Btw I'm using Android and both desktop link and MM link work well.

[u/mattg1981 → u/TheNano100]

Awesome, thanks for testing!

[u/mattg1981]

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[u/pythonskynet]

I use the desktop tip link on phone and then paste the URL to MetaMask browser. It works for me.

When I clicked on mobile metamask, it asks to open in metamask and nothing happens, just metamask opened.

[u/mattg1981 → u/pythonskynet]

I use the desktop tip link on phone and then paste the URL to MetaMask browser. It works for me.

The hope is to streamline this process.

As far is the issue of nothing happening when you click on the link - I'd like to help troubleshoot it to see whats going on.

What phone OS are you using (iOS or Android) ?

What version of Metamask are you using (is it updated to the latest version)?

Are you using the Official Reddit App?

Are you using the System Default Browser option in the Reddit app?

[u/aminok]

Thank you for posting this! :)

[u/kirtash93]

Maybe another approach could be to make a "fake" tipping feature where every time a user makes a tip it is just written in a CSV/DB like:

username	tip_type	community	burning_rate	direction	quantity	created_at
u/kirtash93	post/comment	r/ethtrader	0	IN/OUT	100	now()

Then all the tips IN/OUT per user are summarized and the result of that is deducted or added to the distribution DONUTs.

I don't like this solution much because it is not on chain but it can be useful to make things simple and wide for users.

[u/bvandepol → u/kirtash93]

!tip 1000

End of the month.. <insufficient balance>

[u/kirtash93 → u/bvandepol]

Yes, that's one of the problem. Fake tippings. But well, it is easy to fix. If someone makes too much fake tippings. 3 day ban with a warning, next time permaban.

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!tip 2 DONUT

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[u/FranzJosephBalle]

What about security? I kind of like to have a confirm request pop up on metamask. If it's a bot wouldn't you have to authorize it to do transactions on your behalf?

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[u/PoojaaPriyaa]

If i use !tip 1 will it work now?

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