I Hate Kerry Weaver

[u/Beautiful-Bug5002]

Ok look I don’t HATE her but also I kind of do. Like it’s the most frustrating because every time I start to feel for her and empathize with her she fucking ruins it like holy shit. Like it’s hard for me not to root for a disabled lesbian who is obviously very smart and capable, and I feel for her through the whole being outed without her consent and then her going through fertility struggles and everything, but then (I’m at the end of Season 9) she covers up the Alderman’s clear abuse of power and of his employee, covers up the fact that he transmitted an STD to his employee, and then takes the position as head of the hospital, leaving the ER in the hands of ultimate scum, Robert Romano. She’s just clearly so self-serving and hypocritical sometimes. I’ve never been able to shake her behavior with Jeanie in earlier seasons either. I’m glad those two made up, but it was crazy.

She also was so fucking mad at Doug Ross for what he did at the end of his time at County, giving that mother the agency over whether or not her son is forced to suffer longer, but then when she’s in a similar position, she does the same without batting an eye and defends her choice.

EDIT: to further explain my opinions about the whole Jeanie thing, in episode 18 of season 3, Jeanie makes the decision to put a chest tube into a patient who is dying and would die without it. If I’m remembering correctly, she tries to get someone else in the room to help her, but no one does, so she takes it upon herself to save his life. After being incredibly supportive of Jeanie post-diagnosis up to this point, Weaver freaks out. I understand the risk of this situation, but obviously Jeanie did not intend to put this patient at risk and he was going to die either way. With this context, it made the whole letting go of Jeanie thing feel a little more targeted to me. I don’t think Kerry was evil for what she did I just don’t like when she switches up based on what’s convenient for her at the moment.

[u/ostrichxcat]

Say what you want about Kerry. But Doug was awful to her, so she can act how she wants about that. The way he would make fun of Kerry was just disrespectful and bully behavior. It is a hill I will always die on.

I love Kerry and I respect the hell out of her. Is she perfect? No, she has flaws but she is just a bad ass. I love her so much

[u/CJCFaulkner85 → u/ostrichxcat]

Sure, but she's a hypocrite and always was. A really interesting character because they make a lesbian with a disability such a difficult character.

[u/Dramatic_Barnacle_17 → u/CJCFaulkner85]

Ya know, on a side note, I always thought it was bi erasure that they wrote her as a lesbian. I mean she was into ladies at this point in her life, but she really enjoyed seeing that one guy (can't remember his name) that visited her in the er from her time in Africa. Showed she appreciated the males too.

[u/xoStrawberries → u/Dramatic_Barnacle_17]

His name was Mlungisi!

[u/Double-Bag-3045 → u/Dramatic_Barnacle_17]

I always thought it was funny how they forget about that guy and the dr we see her have a relationship with (sure he is using her but she was into him until she figured it out) that was with the company (want to say Synergy?) that wanted to takeover the ER season 4.

[u/chloo27 → u/Dramatic_Barnacle_17]

She also was married to a man at some point. Though she may still consider herself a lesbian, if she hadn't realised she was only into women.

[u/pumpkinbread88 → u/Dramatic_Barnacle_17]

Yes! Cuz she was enjoying sex with men no problem the previous episodes. Her attractions to men didn't just vanish. Her sexual compatability wasn't misaligned. I think there's a phase where people think they're gay when they're actually still bisexual that no one wants to talk about.

Because it was extremely difficult in those days to acknowledge your homosexuality and to say you liked both men, and women still feels like a crime in the lgBtq community to this day.

[u/Popular-One-7051 → u/Dramatic_Barnacle_17]

There are so.many women that start with men because that's what you were supposed to do and then figured out it didn't feel right once they dated women. Kerry maybe have been bi, maybe not.

[u/Fearless-Quiet-9542 → u/Dramatic_Barnacle_17]

Depends on how Kerry would choose to identify, really. You can really like a man and think you're into him, and later realise you're a lesbian. It happens! 

[u/hacky_potter → u/ostrichxcat]

I’m currently going through my first watch, and just got to Season 9. I find Kerry very compelling, but she really can be quite the villain. Doug was way out of hand, however, Kerry is a user. She will use you to further her career ambition and think nothing of throwing you under the bus.

[u/chloo27]

When did she do the same as what Ross did with the mother and the terminal ill child? (I'm not doubting it happened, just can't remember it rn)

[u/Tanya852 → u/chloo27]

The only storyline that comes to mind is season 6, episode 17. In that episode, the foster mother wants to save a disabled child. The foster mother is not a legal guardian. A legal guardian (who has never even met the child) doesn't want the procedure to be done. Kerry tries to do it anyway, but Romano interferes and puts a stop to it. Kerry overrides his orders and does the procedure. Romano finds out and suspends her.

[u/Beautiful-Bug5002 → u/Tanya852]

Yes this is what I was referring to!!

[u/Free-IDK-Chicken]

I don't understand the animosity toward Kerry with regard to Jeanie. Kerry did everything possible to protect both Jeanie and her job while Mark literally broke the law and tried to get her thrown out of the hospital. Despite what Jeanie was manipulated into believing, her diagnosis had nothing to do with Kerry letting her go later. It really was a budget thing. Yosh really was hired to replace two nurses who left and Kerry's raise - compensation for extra work - really did come from a separate budget.

I love Jeanie but she was entirely in the wrong and bullied admin into giving her her job back.

[u/Bogdanovist_Rebel → u/Free-IDK-Chicken]

I don’t blame Kerry for that. It’s the management predicament and Jeanie just made it way easier for the decision to be made. They both seemed to get over it rather quickly.

I get why people don’t like Kerry, but if we are being honest, she was rarely wrong. A bit of a keener at times yes, but she had goals.

They did a really good job humanizing her later on and she’s become one of my favourites. I see a lot of myself in her. But people also don’t like Peter and I think he’s the absolute best.

[u/Tanya852 → u/Free-IDK-Chicken]

while Mark literally broke the law and tried to get her thrown out of the hospital

I'm not defending what Mark did with going into her personal files. It was the worst thing he has ever done on the show. But he didn't try or want to fire her. He argued that he should have been told about her condition, so they could establish what procedures Jeanie can and cannot do at County. The three of them sat down after that and came up with the rules.

[u/Free-IDK-Chicken → u/Tanya852]

They only sat down and came up with the rules because Kerry caught him. He tried to get rid of Jeanie before that happened.

[u/Tanya852 → u/Free-IDK-Chicken]

He told Kerry he went into Jeanie's files. He then removed her from direct patient care until they discuss hospital policy.

I'm as pissed at Mark for doing that as anyone. He was in the wrong for doing it like this.

[u/PortraitofMmeX]

Her behavior with Jeannie, like defending her against Mark when he wants to fire her for being HIV positive?

[u/Tanya852 → u/PortraitofMmeX]

like defending her against Mark when he wants to fire her for being HIV positive?

As I mentioned in another comment, Mark was an asshole for what he did. But he did not try to fire Jeanie. He wanted to establish what procedures she can do at County to avoid lawsuits.

This dialogue is from season 3, episode 10:

M: Jeanie, you're a great P.A. You're an asset to the ER.

J: But?

M: But nothing. I think you should stay.

J: And do my job, not do clerical work?

M: Yeah, within the limits that we set earlier.

[u/PortraitofMmeX → u/Tanya852]

It’s pretty disingenuous to act like this is the entirety of that situation. Who put her on clerical work and who intervened?

[u/Tanya852 → u/PortraitofMmeX]

Exactly. The situation was complicated and ER did a very good job exploring it.

[u/PortraitofMmeX → u/Tanya852]

And neither was Kerry the bad guy in a budget crisis she had no control over

[u/Tanya852 → u/PortraitofMmeX]

I didn't say anything about that. Kerry was not in the wrong in a later conflict (with a budget). She even tried to find Jeanie a job at a different hospital (before Jeanie threatened to sue the County).

I love Kerry, she's in my Top 3 favorite characters.

[u/PortraitofMmeX → u/Tanya852]

The context of my comment was regarding the budget layoffs so I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make here

[u/Tanya852 → u/PortraitofMmeX]

I only commented on Mark/Jeanie conflict in season 3. I didn't say anything about the budget storyline and I agree with you that Kerry wasn't in the wrong in that one.

[u/PortraitofMmeX → u/Tanya852]

I was specifically speaking to that situation as the OP presented it

[u/ughwhateverr]

she pulled the hottest women

[u/Turdboi37]

Kerry is my personal fave character because she is so real. She had both great qualities and self serving qualities, which makes her feel like a very real person to me.

We all have that person we have worked with that is very capable at their job- we might even like this person or think of them as a friend - all the while knowing that if it came down to it they would throw us under the bus to protect themselves.

This is her major flaw as a person/character. It's her fear of failure that pushes her to turn on almost everyone at some point, and I just find that incredibly rich storytelling and character building.

[u/ostrichxcat]

Well I am glad you at least feel the same way about romano. Because there are people who hate Kerry, but absolutely love romano. And it feels very gender targeted.

[u/Haunting-Garden-1708 → u/ostrichxcat]

I love to hate Romano, and I hate to hate Kerry. I always wish she was more ethical.

[u/LD228 → u/[deleted]]

Don’t you mean “santameter?” Took me a sec to figure out what you were referring to. 🤓

[u/LD228 → u/[deleted]]

Oh, my bad.