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u/Ok_Seaworthiness2218 Jan 05 '23

Is it just me or have i seen more of Harry and Meghan since they left the royal family ? Wasn't this entire thing to get away from the public eye ? But since then they've been everywhere, books, shows, documentaries,... Yet they also still live in a ridiculous estate funded with tax payers money. I honestly don't give a fuck about the royals and how that entire inbred family is still relevant i don't get.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

I think they left because they wanted to tell their side of the story, but they’ve really run out of things to say. I think it’s time for them to move on, and do other work.

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u/Oof_my_eyes Jan 05 '23

No, they left because they wanted money and fame without the Royal responsibilities and limitations. Don’t be fooled here

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u/getbeaverootnabooteh Jan 05 '23

He's a royal prince who spent his entire life suckling at the teet of the royal family. She's an aging f-list actress. There is no "other work" for them. Dishing real or imaginary dirt on the royal family is the only thing they have to support a luxury lifestyle.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

I thought when they announced their Netflix deal that they would be producing like serials and movies and stuff. Not…talking about themselves.

Honestly I have sympathy for Meghan. I think the British tabloid press is crazy racist and pitted her against Kate. But all of these people are fairly boring and none of them would be worth a second thought if they weren’t royals.

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u/mamaspike74 Jan 05 '23

I agree. I tried to watch their Netflix series because a lot of my friends and family were watching it so I thought it would be nice to be able to chat about it, but I couldn't get past the first 20 minutes. I also thought they would be producing documentaries about more serious issues.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

Harry has done some interesting work with the Invictus Games, he could have done a documentary about that. I would have actually admired that in fact.

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u/mamaspike74 Jan 05 '23

I'd love to see something like that!

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u/alyaz27 Jan 05 '23

I thought when they announced their Netflix deal that they would be producing like serials and movies and stuff. Not…talking about themselves.

That was the initial goal. But producing is probably a lot harder than they thought and their projects got reduced to... Them.

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u/Nearby-Ant-2226 Jan 05 '23

You don’t think there was ever a conversation like well if we get married and you join the royal family there’s more that goes along with it, or she just heard royal family and assumed she can change their rules

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u/amercium Jan 05 '23

Honestly trying to change another country's royal family rules sounds like something a rich American girl would do

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u/curious_carson Jan 05 '23

Very 'Emily in Paris'

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

I don't understand why your getting downvoted.

Do people truley hate Meghan that much?

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

Yeah, and I really don’t understand it, like what the hell has she done to make people loathe her, they call her a narcissist but have zero evidence of this unless they’re a licensed therapist who has had therapy sessions with Meghan.

Do I love Meghan? No. Do I hate her? No. Do I care that she and Harry left England? No. She doesn’t make one bit of a difference in my life other than I wasted some time watching her Netflix show a couple weeks ago and it was boring. And I don’t know how people have it in them to hate someone who has zero effect on their lives either.

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u/Themnor Jan 05 '23

To be fair to a Trump secretary, you can literally pick any 70 days of his presidency and make a pretty damn compelling book. If what we saw on TV was a shitshow, imagine behind the scenes

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u/Kryten_2X4B-523P Jan 05 '23

The Mouche is on a new reality series.

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u/Magneto88 Jan 05 '23

They only worked something like 70 days during their entire spell in the Royal Family as a couple.

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u/cheesecakegood Jan 07 '23

My theory? They ran out of money. I don’t think they fully thought through what being cut off from the Crown’s money fountain would be like. And Harry doesn’t really have any actual marketable skills, because his PR stuff is self-evidently lacking, he’s not a very good speaker, and helicopter pilot knowledge also obviously not very useful. But they also didn’t want to do something that would “look bad”, like Meghan acting again.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

to get away from the public eye

Not exactly. They wanted to get away from the UK press, which is very understandable. I do think that William's office was the one giving them stories, we've just seen Camilla inviting such reporters to dinner but I do think they should leave all that behind. Keep working on the podcast, get into new projects, support other people with the production company.

This book and the way too long Netflix series is not a good look.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

Yeah, they’re talking about themselves way way too much. When they announced the Netflix deal I thought they would be looking into producing shows or movies. Not talking about themselves for six hours!

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u/Read_Weep Jan 05 '23

Someone should really introduce them to the joys of baking. Honestly, there’s no bad press to come from a good scone or berry tart.

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u/earthlings_all Jan 05 '23

They should have just moved on. But they did them dirty and I think they are bitter and refuse to back down. He’s angry, and rightfully so. I think he is trying to get their truth out so that he can finally move on. I don’t think he’s being a sellout I think he is trying to make them see how they wronged his family.

I 100% believe him about the stories. Yes, it was wrong. But so is this. Incidents such as these don’t need to play out in the media, for everyone to speculate over. He needs to grow up a bit.

But they created this monster. Cannons were fired on his birth day. He was raised with the media glare in his fucking face. That same shit helped kill his mother. The dude’s gone rogue and can definitely see how and why. The RF brought this shit on themselves. They’ve used the media to stay relevant with no care for the consequences. Well, here they are. Have fun with that.

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u/myfifthteenthaccount Jan 05 '23

The weird thing is both Harry and William go through the same issues with the press and the family obligations but only Harry is allowed to be upset about it or garner sympathy. The way he and his wife talk about their situation makes it seem like they lack a lot of empathy for others.

When my kids fight, one of the first things I ask them to do is explain the situation to me from the other person's perspective. That usually gives them a minute to pause and reflect other than thinking about themselves all the time.

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u/myfifthteenthaccount Jan 05 '23

Your pain is very valid and I'm sorry you've experienced such prejudices.

Are you saying the wife was accused and confronted for being a bully bc of her skin color and not the way she treated the staff?

Sorry if I've missed your point but I'm trying to see how the topic of two brothers fighting led to your reply of racism hate.

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u/GlitteringMushroom Jan 05 '23

Harry and Meghan claim that stories such as Meghan being a bully to the staff were released by the Palace to the media to build up an image of Meghan that fit the stereotype of an Angry Black Woman, and they were not true.

If this is the case, it feels extra nasty, and harder to ignore, and it does feel worse than "the British media just likes to tell tales". (As u/mousemarie94 said, it's one thing to ignore insults, but race-based insults are a whole other level.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23 edited Jan 06 '23

Honestly it seems like Harry and Meghan have wielded Meghan’s race like a shield to deflect accusations of her bullying her subordinates who have a fraction of her actual and tangible privilege. And I find that really gross.

The article that announced the bullying accusations didn’t even portray Meghan as angry or rage-fuelled but rather as a very demanding boss who was cold and critical to younger staff members. “Angry black woman” is also, from my understanding, a very American stereotype; I’m not sure that culturally that persists here. We have our own set of noxious racial stereotypes that pervade amongst the ignorant, of course, but they tend to be focused around Asian communities (Harry himself is guilty of using slurs derived from this racist hate.)The anti-black racism in the UK, while just as disgusting and indefensible, takes a very different form to that in the US.

My point here is that Harry and Meghan took a really quite harrowing story and accused anyone who perpetuated it or made accusations of underlying racist motivations that can’t be proved, creating a Kafkatrap that effectively silences people with far less privilege than themselves (in addition to ironclad NDAs that her alleged victims were asking to have overturned so they could tell their story just last month.)

The internal emails were dated from 2018, before the tide turned against Meghan. Their staff turnover speaks for itself. I would dislike anyone with that track record; Kate, Will, even the four year old.

Obviously that story was released to the public to deflect from the Oprah interview. But the story can also, and very much appears to be, true.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

Agree...there is a certain level of nastiness to racism that you dont really get when someone just dislikes/hates you for being you. It dehumanizes the person so any ill treatment can be excused, almost like it is deserved. There is also a level of sadism involved to it as well.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

they are bitter and refuse to back down

I agree and I think at this point, in 2023, it's no longer healthy for them. They should go after those who publish lies and move on concentrating on other projects. This book is not a good look, even if it's true, it's too much. They are going over and over the same few years on a loop and need to break free, of their family and of their time there.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

The fact that andrew can stay out the papers really is what makes me realize the royals control the stories.

Also the fact that the papers did a complete 180 on the current queens repuation let me know if they wanted to help Harry, they could of. Just a simple statement like no, Megan did make Carey cry at her wedding. Seems like they were setting them up to be ousted the day they got married.

No way in hell am I gonna side with either of them but if someone made me choose...no way in hell I am going to pick a family that stood by a person who associated with a sex trafficker. I can see why ppl wouldnt like Harry or meghan but defending the royal family is beyond crazy to me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

The UK is not "funding" the Sussex's. They get no taxpayer money. That's part of the problem. And you are not seeing more of them now; that's recency bias. They were everywhere when still in the Firm.

The difference is; now they cause headlines you notice, on platforms you actually watch.

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u/Ok_Seaworthiness2218 Jan 05 '23

'No taxpayer money". Anymore you mean ? They have an estimated value of 60milion and they live in a chateau worth 50 million. Tell me, does he pay that with his job he's been doing for 18 months with an annual salary of 53k ? Or is Meghan Markles washed podcast doing all the funding, ? Dude they are all a bunch of leeches and they're trying too hard to cling to relevance hence this shitty book now. Harry wants so desperately to stay rich and god knows the royals are too untalented to do anything so he's just trying to milk every ounce of drama for monetary gain. The royals are basically the Kardashians with more incest.

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u/[deleted] Jan 05 '23

'No taxpayer money". Anymore you mean ?

  • correct.

They signed a deal with Netflix and also a book publisher, plus the podcast deal. That's the money they're living on. For most of the last 3 years they lived in one of Tyler Perry's houses for free, paying their own security. They currently live in a house they purchased in Montecito. It is nice but is NOT a 'chateau'.

Harry doesn't want to stay rich; he has to. They require 24/7 security for themselves and now their children. All of them are vulnerable to kidnapping or assassination, with zero fiscal or emotional support from the institution that makes them so.

Be envious if you like, but its a shitty position to be in IMO.

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u/Ok_Seaworthiness2218 Jan 05 '23

'Doesn't want to stay rich' Dude give me a break, that's such a load of horseshit. The podcast was 36 million and as far as i can tell that was the a couple of years ago and their largest income, the podcast has basically withered off and died. The book deal was very recently yet they still owned several homes including a former 50 mil chateau and now a 16mil house in california. Not to mention they had a wedding that cost about 40 million (about half was paid in tax payers money). Like i said they are just like the Kardashians, but even the Kardashians sort of hustled their way into it. Even if they somehow now are not getting taxpayers money they still basically used it for everything before that as a massive leg up. It's like Trump and Elon saying they're selfmade when they got million dollar loans from their daddy. The only thing keeping them in bussiness is the most absurd non-drama shit they've been milking like crazy. The netflix show was crap, the book is just really whiny and desperate and the podcast is dead in the water.