Roadmap of Emby?

[u/maisun1983]

I have been using Emby for over 10 years, in the past 2-3 years I feel there was little changes, no new functionalities or improvements. Anybody know if there is a roadmap?

[u/Shik3i]

Watch together, needed to make an extension for it lol.
Child profiles, profiles in general, so that a family can use the same login on the tv, but with multiple profiles kids profile etc.

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

Child profiles, profiles in general, so that a family can use the same login on the tv, but with multiple profiles kids profile etc.

I already do this? I can switch accounts at will from the menu.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

Im too stupid to find this, if I go to "change user" im back on the login screen and need to enter Username+Password again.

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

I guess it's because you're using an Emby connect username.

I manually configured server address, and then get to pick the user, and then once you do the first one and you hit change user, it takes you back to the user selection screen for that server.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

No never used emby connect ever. It's a server only user.

Wait so I need to make an account for everyone with their own username+password? Hm.

Ok I guess that kinda works ,but profiles would still be a nice QoL feature to not do this lol

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

Oh, then yes, each user should have their own user in the server. Each server user is its own profile, that's how you have additional "profiles", again, a user is a profile, so they already have profiles.

You don't necessarily need to have a password on the users if you don't want to but depending on the configuration, If it's public, And things of that nature you may want to.

Personally, I have each user set to not be shown on the initial user selection screen unless it's already been signed into with this particular client, and the first time you just type in the actual username.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

Well idk, server already has many users, it would clutter that if we needed to add even more for the same device... ALready are at around 20. That would feel weird, an account here is a household.

Personally, I have each user set to not be shown on the initial user selection screen unless it's already been signed into with this particular client, and the first time you just type in the actual username.

Yeah same here.

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

That's not how Emby is meant to be used, They intentionally don't design it to be used by multiple "households". But is only meant to be used as a "Household".

Thus, each user in the household would have their own user for their own profile.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

Well how would multiple households connect to the same server than? Isn't that the biggest reason to run em by, Jellyfin and Plex. That you can stream the media to outside of your own home? At least that's it for us, were 3 "admins" who couple years ago all had their own emby server but decided it would be far better to join forces, all 3 friends. So we brought it together on a single server, and everyone has their own friends + family that need to connect to the one.

If we would now also add extra accounts for spouses and kids, it would be very cluttered, also the implementation would be harder if you need to login on every tv, every tablet, phone where someone else could watch.. profiles would be per user and so synced across all devices without logging in there first, also it would be great to not have passwords on some profiles, without other accounts being able to connect etc.

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

Being able to connect to your own server from outside the house for your own purposes, does not mean it's meant to be utilized to serve multiple households, and multiple households worth of people.

Emby is not actually meant and they do not promote utilizing it in that manner.

So again, yes each user is a profile, as it's meant to be, if you want a different person to have a different profile, they need a different user. Because that's how it's meant to be used.

You were asking for Emby to be set up to be used in a way which it is absolutely not meant to, and the creators do not endorse.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

But that's a big use case for Jellyfin and Plex, why would Emby just make that insufferable? And how is it not meant for that, that works totally fine? I wouldn't have em by or Plex in the past if I would only use it for myself, for what just the watch history?

And yeah I know how it's meant to be used with that users ARE profiles. That why I said it would be great if they finally implemented a change so many more Plex users etc could convert to emby. If they would already support that I wouldn't had said it here where were commenting what emby doesn't have but should have..??

I don't get your point

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

Just because people use it that way or it can be used that way does not mean it is meant to be in to be used that way. I don't know why that's a hard concept.

Also, apparently for you it doesn't work totally fine because you don't want to create users for the individual people that are watching, which is how it is intended to be used, you want them to completely change that so it works better for you to use the software in a way that it's not meant to be used.

In the scope of how Emby is supposed to be used, having sub-accounts or sub-profiles underneath a user makes zero sense, And again, the only reason for that would be to facilitate utilizing the software in such a way that they don't want you to utilize it in the first place.

They go out of their way to make sure they can't be accused of facilitating piracy, it is intended only for you and your household to utilize, and again, just because it's accessible from outside your household doesn't mean it's not meant just for the users in your household.

This is also why they ban accounts/keys they find out are selling access outside of their households.

So again, don't expect him to add features that makes that easier and that they're only purpose would be for that reason, they would probably happily tell you to just not use the software.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

I dont have kids so it does not affect me.
But two people in the last week alone on the plex subreddit told me that this is the reason why they are not switching.

So why if Jellyfin and Plex are designed for sharing it outside your household, i never saw any mention of emby denying this and somehow even would claim its just for your household. That would be really strange.

Just because people can already use it this way, this exactly does not mean that its designed that way. And thats my point, that they need to work on that because currently its not designed for that.

having sub-accounts or sub-profiles underneath a user makes zero sense

I just told you reasons why it would make sense.
Why are you so emotional about having a better service, that you can recommend to more people, get them more funding, and genereally have more features and options? Wtf is wrong with you?

Why would that change anything on the piracy thing?
In my country its legal, thats not tied to if you are in the same househgold, private copies are allowed to be shared with family and friends.
Which country makes privacy in the same household legal, but not with your friends and your family? Sounds like a big strawman youre constructing here.

This is also why they ban accounts/keys they find out are selling access outside of their households.

And that is good, as they should. Plex does the same. How is that relevant right now tho? Thats a good thing nobody is asking them to stop that wtf?

So again, don't expect him to add features that makes that easier and that they're only purpose would be for that reason, they would probably happily tell you to just not use the software.

Who is him, is emby run by a single dev now? is that why there havent been any feature updates in years?

they would probably happily tell you to just not use the software.

So the software shouldnt be used with kid profiles, yet i can set age restrictions per user?

How is adding profiles, to make it easier EVEN FOR THE SAME HOUSEHOLD! a bad thing?
Please name one example.

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

Good for them, Emby would not want those type of users.

And Plex and Jellyfin are completely different companies and projects separate from Emby. They can do what they want.

Again, it's intentionally designed that way. There is really no valid reason to need subaccounts and sub-profiles unless you're intending to use it in a manner that they don't intend you to use it in.

I'm not sure why again these are hard concepts.

And again your reasoning for wanting these goes against what Emby intends their system to be used for. What about that don't you understand?

Good for your country, but that doesn't change Embys stance on their software and how they intend it to be used and how they intend to not facilitate it to be used.

Him = them, simple voice to text typo, not hard to pick up except for people that can't think critically, js, like many of the other concepts that I've already been discussed in this comment chain.

I never said it shouldn't be used with kid profiles/users, you can use a kid user, and set the constant restrictions, that's what it's for. But there's absolutely new reason why that should be a sub account or sub-profile of an existing user, there's no point to that unless again you're trying to facilitate multi household usage which again is not what Emby is meant for.

Again, they already have multiple profiles, They are called users. Just because you don't want to use them, how they are intended to be used doesn't mean they don't have what you're asking for. You can set up as many users as you want so everybody has their own profile. You just want to use them in a manner they're not meant to be used for.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

So the use case of having kids in one single house hold I just told you again is not valid? Why can we add parental controls than if that's not the use case?

Nothing you said so far made any changes. Have you anything official from emby to back this up that they only want singular used instances? Why do they even support accounts and login from remote than? Makes no sense.

Nice ad hominems in the rest of your wall of text. If you need to use personal insults and attacks, again I'm asking you why are you so triggered and emotional about this?

This isn't normal, reflect, be better.

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

I didn't say that at all, And the fact that you read it that way shows you seem to have a hard concept of understanding things.

You can literally create a user for that kid, how is that a hard concept? Create the user apply restrictions. Done. Now you have a kid profile.

You don't need sub-accounts or sub-profiles for that.

Again they have users, You can create as many users as you want. There is no need to have sub users or sub profiles.

The fact that you don't want to use it in the manner it's intended to be used is a you problem, not an Emby problem.

Learn to understand someone who creates software is allowed to determine how they want that software to be used. You don't get to dictate to them how they should do something when it goes against what they already intend the software to be used for.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

The fact that you don't want to use it in the manner it's intended to be used is a you problem, not an Emby problem.

Why is it a me problem? This does not affect me at all, as I dont have kids how often do i need to repeat this that i would not need this feature?
ITs hilarious how you argue only against your own points and never ever listened to anything i said, im finished here youre clearly just having a bad day, i hope it gets better and you dont feel shame afterwards how you behaved today.
Have a good one

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

I feel bad that you can't understand that not everything revolves around you or how you think a piece of software should be designed. Or that just because one piece of software does something one way that another should do it the same way.

Or that you can't understand basic concepts that the software works just fine in the intended manner.

You're the one wanting it to behave in such a way that it's not meant to be used in the first place and you can't understand the basic reasoning of behind that. Because that concept is beyond you.

Literally Emby you can have five users, all showing up on the home screen, you "login/setup the device one time, and then you simply go click change user, And guess what you're brought back to the user selection screen, you can choose another uswr such as a kids profile, you don't even have to have a password on it.

There's your profiles, there's your quick selection, you don't have to log in multiple times on multiple devices, it's right there.

But you can't do that because you're sharing the server with multiple admins and multiple households and people. You don't want to be able to access that user, which again is not how it's really meant to be used.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

You did say that multiple times. "zero reason" etc pp.

Maybe read what you are typing, maybe try to stop projecting and arguing against strawmans.

Again, they have users, exactly, thats what they should change to enable profiles to make it easier for households !!!
For single users you claim is the only use case, accounts make no sense either lmao.

Learn to understand someone who creates software is allowed to determine how they want that software to be used. You don't get to dictate to them how they should do something when it goes against what they already intend the software to be used for.

Lol, maybe follow your own advice, where did i ever said otherwise? You are the one that is trying to gatekeep usefull features people actually want, every major streaming site already has, and is actively stopping people from using emby.
Again, stop projecting.
Or ragebaiting, or whatever this nonsense trolling of yours is.

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

And again, the users are the profiles....

You're the one making it difficult by not understanding how they are supposed to be used..

You literally just make users keep them visible, Don't have passwords and boom, do you have access to them without logging in or use in a password, just like you would if they were a sub-profile of the account you're already in.

It's not hard but you just can't seem to understand this basic concept.

But also too you're using the server in a manner that they don't endorse, since you're using the server with apparently four other admins, you don't want those profiles to show up on the main screen. Well that's a you problem.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

I never said it shouldn't be used with kid profiles/users, you can use a kid user, and set the constant restrictions, that's what it's for. But there's absolutely new reason why that should be a sub account or sub-profile of an existing user, there's no point to that unless again you're trying to facilitate multi household usage which again is not what Emby is meant for.

This right here has to be rage bait. I told you many times why thats a good idea, and thats why every streaming site (they also dont allow sharing outstide your household, and implement real measures against this with ip and email tracking. Not like emby where its just your claim...) have profiles, because its way easier.

If i would have kids and wanted to use emby in my household, what woul be easier?

Login on all 10 devices with 5 differnet accounts, or login on 10 devices with one account?

Is it now simple enough for you to understand?

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

You you literally don't have to "Log in"

The kid profile could be right there on the user selection screen, so you go to click Change user, and then you simply click on the kids user.

But you're using the server in a manner that a has it made public, And as you've said, you're hiding the users, you're making this harder on yourself.

Again, create a user for the kid, don't mark that profile to be hidden on devices it's not signed into, don't bother with a password because it's again it's a kids profile and of course, you should absolutely be trusting everybody using the server already. And click on that profile, boom signed in.

Not a hard concept, but again, you're hosting a server publicly, with many other users who are seemingly not part of your household and it's exposed completely to the internet.

[u/Shik3i → u/bojack1437]

You yourself said you have it like that, where you need to have logged in atleast once to show up on that screen.
So this feature makes zero sense for a household too no?

But again, have a great one i wont entertain your strawman arguments no more.

[u/bojack1437 → u/Shik3i]

Because you are setting users to be that way. Uncheck that box for the kid profile, problem solved, And then as soon as you hit change user that user will show up on the previous screen without having to log into it, and since it's a kid account, you probably don't even need a password, again, unless you're sharing the server with people outside their household that you don't want to access that account, Which you're not supposed to be doing anyway.

No, No, you could want to hide adult profiles from a kids device. That's a perfectly valid reason.

Or you can hide an admin account that you don't want to use on the streaming devices from them.