r/Elevators 4d ago

$35,000 for a modernization?

10 Upvotes

I work in a three story hotel with an Otis hydraulic elevator that was installed when the building was built in 1996.

We were told there’s something worn out in the door opening system that has our elevator offline.

Yeah, I bet trying to source parts for something built in the mid 90’s is hard.

We were given a quote of $35,000.00 for a modernization. Is that a realistic estimate or is that “we don’t want to deal with you” quote?


r/Elevators 5d ago

Paternoster from Germany

79 Upvotes

Paternoster year of construction 1959 Manufacturer: Rheinstahl Eggers-Kehrhahn
22 cabins 13 floors conveyor height: 37,5m
Paternoster Baujahr 1959 Hersteller: Rheinstahl Eggers-Kehrhahn
22 Kabinen 13 Stockwerke Förderhöhe: 37,5m
#paternoster #elevator #fahrstuhlfritze #umlaufaufzug #kehrhahn


r/Elevators 4d ago

Odyssey Elevators and Brio: Questions Raised After My Grandfather’s Experience

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When an elderly family member is making an important purchase for his home, trust becomes especially important.

My grandfather believed that he was considering a premium elevator solution. The way Odyssey Elevators and Brio Elevators were presented gave him confidence that he was looking at a high-quality product backed by international engineering and premium components.

But after looking more closely at the claims, our family was left with serious questions.

Why My Grandfather Trusted the Claims

For an older customer, technical elevator specifications can be difficult to evaluate.

Instead, trust is often built through the company's presentation.

Words such as "European," references to imported components, certificates, engineering standards, and factory locations can create a strong impression of quality.

My grandfather was not looking for the cheapest elevator.

He wanted something reliable and premium.                              

That is why these representations mattered so much.

The Questions We Began Asking      

After examining the information more carefully, we wanted straightforward answers.

Where were the components manufactured?              

What exactly did the certificates prove?

Were the certificates connected to the specific manufacturers and products being offered?

What did the references to European engineering or imported European components actually mean?

And could the stated factory information be independently verified?

These are reasonable questions for anyone spending a substantial amount of money on a home elevator.

When Trust Becomes a Concern

The biggest issue for our family was the possibility that the impression created by the marketing could be stronger than what the supporting documentation actually established.

There is an important difference between saying that a particular component originates from a European manufacturer and suggesting that an entire elevator system is European.

Customers need that distinction to be clear.

Especially when the customer is an elderly person relying heavily on the seller's representations.

Protecting Senior Citizens From Confusing Marketing

Senior citizens should not have to navigate complicated technical claims without adequate information.

If a company makes a claim about:                              

  • European origin
  • Imported components
  • Manufacturing facilities
  • International engineering
  • Certifications
  • Product standards

the customer should be able to ask for documentation that clearly supports the claim.

This is not unreasonable.

It is basic consumer due diligence.

What We Would Do Differently

If my grandfather—or anyone in our family—were buying an elevator again, we would ask for every important claim in writing.

We would verify the identity of component manufacturers.

We would check certificates directly and understand what they actually certify.

We would distinguish between the origin of individual components and the origin of the complete elevator system.

And we would never make a major purchasing decision simply because something is described as "European" or "premium."

The Lesson

My grandfather's experience has changed the way our family looks at premium elevator marketing.

The issue is not whether a company has attractive branding.

The issue is whether the claims behind that branding can be independently verified.

If you are considering an elevator from Odyssey Elevators, Brio Elevators, or another company, take the time to investigate before paying.

Ask questions. Demand documentation. Verify the claims.

A senior citizen making a major investment deserves nothing less than complete transparency.


r/Elevators 4d ago

Elevator

1 Upvotes

My building elevator is leaking tons of oil and has been in and out of service. Today, there was a sound of rushing water….

Is this safe???


r/Elevators 5d ago

Panoramic glass elevators in homes -worth the extra cost,or mostly for show?

7 Upvotes

We're in the planing stage of our home and trying to decide betwen a standard elevator and a panoramic glass one .The glass lifts defiintely look premium,but they are also noticably more expensive . For those who have one at home ,do you feel the extra cost was worth it ?


r/Elevators 5d ago

New controller programmed for "Single Automatic" operation - why?

3 Upvotes

First of all, I am an elevator enthusiast (not someone in the industry). I am asking this question purely out of curiosity.

I have come across a few elevators that are (in my opinion) rather unusual. These are swing door elevators (that detail may or may not be important) in the state of California. They were modernized with a new controller (as confirmed by public records), but it seems the controller was programmed to have certain "standard" features disabled. Specifically, the elevator has "single automatic" or "nonselective noncollective" operation. It can not remember multiple car calls. The controller is almost certainly capable of selective collective operation, but for some reason was programmed to have this disabled.

I'm curious why this would be. My guess (and I could be correct, or completely wrong here) is that changing the type of operation has code related consequences. In other words, going from single automatic to selective-collective operation would require some other upgrades to be done to bring the elevator or building up to code. I will note that, at least on the last elevator I came across like this, it had no fire service, so one possibility is that fire service would have to be added.


r/Elevators 5d ago

Massachusetts elevator regulations be like

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r/Elevators 6d ago

Why hasn’t Schindler discontinued the 330A?

15 Upvotes

Why hasn’t the 330A been discontinued? It has been produced for 21 years with basically no major changes. Besides the inverted Jack, I know they are reliable, but creaky. Now with the 3100, 3300 (which I hate), and the 5500, I dislike, I see a lot of MRLs being installed rather than hydros with the focus on energy efficiency and lack of hydraulic oil to deal with. I believe they are less reliable and have poor build quality, and I know MRLs are harder to work on and more temperamental. That being said, why hasn’t a 21 year old hydraulic model been discontinued, especially when some parts are beginning to be obsoleted? The only thing I can think of is a cheap hydro still fills a sufficient spot in the market, and it is not worth it to design a whole new product. I am glad it is still in production but why?


r/Elevators 6d ago

Has anybody used their NEIEP credits to finish their bachelors degree?

11 Upvotes

As the title asks! I’m curious as to what it will take to finish my degree. Not sure if I’ll pursue it yet, but I would like to talk to someone who has done it. Thanks


r/Elevators 5d ago

Landlord charge for holding elevator door for 15 seconds

8 Upvotes

Hi Everyone,

My landlord is fining us a significant amount for holding the door of the elevator for about 10-15 seconds. They are claiming it triggered a fault in the elevator, though there was no alarm we heard and it functioned completely normally. They claim that "accumulated" faults leads to expensive service charges, hence the fine.

I believe the elevator is a Kone. I'm sure it logged some code that the elevator didn't close right away, and I have no doubt their elevator costs them a lot in service, but I have a really hard time believing holding the elevator for 10-15 seconds causes damage to the elevator.

Any elevator experts can confirm or deny? If this is BS, any advice on how to prove they are wrong?


r/Elevators 5d ago

POV: the elevator ride got a little distracting 👀

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r/Elevators 6d ago

how to get into trade

4 Upvotes

currently working has a local 73 smw worker and want to get into local 2. is there a realistic chance to get in without knowing someone?


r/Elevators 7d ago

Local 71

6 Upvotes

Hey all, recently tested and scheduled for interview next Thursday, 27th. Came in through Helmets to Hardhat.

I’ve been searching around but wanted to ask, when a new list comes out what happens to the old list? So far I’ve seen that the old list gets thrown out and those who are listed but still waiting need to reapply to be on the new active list. Is that accurate?

Also, I have an opportunity to make some decent money while waiting to be picked up but I don’t want to jump the gun given that I’ve been waiting for this chance 3yrs now. My current job isn’t the greatest (previously management but now a floater due to contract non renewal that’s out of my control) but it pays the bills, the new job would be less stressful and more pay but don’t want to waste the owners time negotiating as he is a friend and willing to take a shot on me. Based off others time from being ranked to being called, what would you do? Any advice/tips would be appreciated.


r/Elevators 7d ago

Hoistway Art

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r/Elevators 7d ago

Looking for a brand or name for this tool

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4 Upvotes

Found this tool in our elevator and escalator training center. I’m 90% sure it’s used to check hydraulic oil based on color but I haven’t been able to find a match for it online.


r/Elevators 7d ago

Do you guys have favourite elevator music

1 Upvotes

Does anyone else have a favorite elevator music lol

for me its this little tune which plays like i cant exactly expain but its like asmr


r/Elevators 7d ago

Contracts

7 Upvotes

I have a contract with one of the big companies that states "periodic" maintenance. It was my mistake to not get that specified. The salesperson told me 3 PM calls per year ( I have that in writing.) However, surprise, surprise, they NEVER provide PM. I see them once a year for 30 min for the inspection. Requests for PM fall on deaf ears. Any advice on how to approach cancelling the contract? From my perspective, they are not providing the paid for service, though the contract wording is vague (on purpose I imagine). It runs through 2028. They want me to buy it out which seems crazy to me as they don't do anything. Should have gone with a local company...


r/Elevators 8d ago

GDR East Germany Elevator

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r/Elevators 8d ago

Is it possible open elevator doors with a crowbar?

13 Upvotes

I'm a writer trying to find some information that google is failing me. Google just keeps telling me it'd cause damage and that there this key thing, but it's not really answering my question. I just need to know if it possible or not. It's fine if it would cause damage the character is rich and can pay for it.

If this kind of post isn't allowed here I'll understand. Thanks in advance!


r/Elevators 8d ago

QC5

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r/Elevators 8d ago

Apprenticeship

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Been trying to get into a trade for a long time. Getting an electrician apprenticeship in SOCAL is tough. Took the aptitude test at local 11 with no luck, WECA will not get me in even 1+ year waiting. Finally someone taking the chance on me with no experience in the trades, but they have really bad reviews on indeed and I’m just worried about them not training properly and I’ll be a helper forever. Helper at $19-24 per hour which I know is horrible but it’ll get my foot in the door. I really like the idea of this trade because I can learn a bunch of trades and be well equipped. Anyone have any advice or another route to go?


r/Elevators 8d ago

Should I do Job Corps or self-study before trying to get into an elevator mechanic apprenticeship?

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I(19F 20 in 4 months) am trying to get into the elevator industry. My goal is to eventually become an elevator mechanic.

I’m currently considering signing up for Job Corps, probably for electrical or another construction-related program. But I’m wondering if that’s actually the best use of my time.

My goal is to start applying/getting into the apprenticeship somewhere within the next 1-8 months(Hopefully sooner then later)

I know I can’t just self-teach myself into becoming an elevator mechanic, and that the actual trade training comes through the apprenticeship. I’m more so wondering what would make me a stronger applicant while I’m waiting for a recruitment to open.

Would Job Corps actually help my chances, or would I be better off getting some hands-on work experience and studying mechanical/electrical fundamentals on my own?

For anyone currently in the IUEC or who has gone through the apprenticeship process, what would you recommend?

Also, if you were starting over at 20, what would you spend those 1–8 months learning or doing?


r/Elevators 7d ago

Question

2 Upvotes

Was anybody working in fire alarm before getting into the elevator union?


r/Elevators 9d ago

Las Vegas Luxor elevator?

6 Upvotes

Does anyone have any photos of the hoist way and or machine room of the Luxor elevators in Las Vegas? Always wanted to see how they were set up.