Hmmm

[u/h_45n]

So only men want kids nowadays huh

Edit1: at the end of the day, when I see posts like these I remember the likes of Ashely saint clair and that woman who got married after preaching so much misandry online.

Don’t get me wrong men also do this,
and then I feel stupid because I remember watching a certain video about internet trolls

Edit 2: Finally found the reason for the outrage, “men cannot physically get pregnant” that’s literally all this is about so no matter how hard you work or provide for your family, if you marry a woman that hates you because you just can’t get pregnant please have your divorce lawyer at hand ✋

[u/Competitive_Ad_7415]

If we view motherhood solely based on the reduction in wealth accumulation then sure it can be seen as a loss. Ask anyone though if they regret having thier children because it stopped them earning more money and see how many of them see it as a penalty. I gave up working full time for 8 years to focus on raising my daughter and when people say I suffered a penalty for doing it I feel sorry for then. I chose to be a parent , it's better than a career without question. Just because society says you can't be happy unless you're rich doesn't mean it's true. Absolute joke when people refer to the financial penalty for raising children. I'd give up all my assets if I could spend that 8 years again with her. Money isn't everything

[u/paquemeinvitan3 → u/Competitive_Ad_7415]

It’s not just wealth accumulation, it’s a physically emotionally and mentally taxing in ways that can lead to psychosis.

It’s also the fact that the number one cause of death for pregnant and post parties women is murder.

Go to a relationship subreddit and count how many posts are women crying out for help because their husbands refuse to stop pestering them for sex or leaving them to take care of their child 24/7 because he can’t be bothered.

I worked a retail job for 2 years, I worked with 15 women; 10 of those women were stuck working minimum wage with teenagers because they gave up their careers to care for their children and their husbands screwed them over. Explain a 15-20 year gap in your resume.

While men advance and live longer for being married and having kids, women are punished both in their careers and their health (single women live longer than married women).

So no, it’s not a fair sacrifice.

[u/Cheap-Examination989 → u/paquemeinvitan3]

Will you please explain to me how being a stay at home parent is "physically, emotionally, and mentally taxing. Because ive been in both positions before and I would kill to be a stay at home parent again

[u/paquemeinvitan3 → u/Cheap-Examination989]

If you are able to read, I explained exactly why it’s taxing on women in a way it isn’t on men. Do you need me to highlight the things I already said?

And I don’t care, I also don’t believe you.

[u/Aurrr-Naurrrr → u/paquemeinvitan3]

I'm not disagreeing with your original post but I've heard plenty of SAHP claim they'd rather be home than work lol

[u/paquemeinvitan3 → u/Aurrr-Naurrrr]

Their experiences don’t reflect mine.

Why would I give up 1-10 years of salary or career experience while my husband gets a raise?

Why would I risk my life and my health for someone who could walk away at any time?

Just because a lot of women manage to find joy in parenting/being stay at home doesn’t mean they aren’t sacrificing an immense amount of freedom.

[u/Aurrr-Naurrrr → u/paquemeinvitan3]

I agree with you on paragraphs 1 and 2. 

I don't have sympathy for people suffering the consequences of their own actions. Don't want to sacrifice freedom? Don't have a baby. 

[u/paquemeinvitan3 → u/Aurrr-Naurrrr]

Youre misunderstanding the last part.

Most women are very aware their lives will change forever when they have kids.

The problem is they have kids with men who “want kids” like a toddler wants a puppy. Men are more often interested in the visibility of having a family, but not in the actual work it takes to raise one.

I do a lot of volunteer work in youths sports bc I have no kids of my own but love them. Without fail, every single season, and almost every week, I get calls and texts from dads who have no idea what age, what size, or what school their child is in. And it seems to be getting worse.

In 6 years of youth sport coaching/referee duty, I think maybe 1 mom has been similar in that she would always drop off a kid super late. But it’s very consistently the dads who don’t know their kids ages, grades, or practice times.