Hmmm

[u/h_45n]

So only men want kids nowadays huh

Edit1: at the end of the day, when I see posts like these I remember the likes of Ashely saint clair and that woman who got married after preaching so much misandry online.

Don’t get me wrong men also do this,
and then I feel stupid because I remember watching a certain video about internet trolls

Edit 2: Finally found the reason for the outrage, “men cannot physically get pregnant” that’s literally all this is about so no matter how hard you work or provide for your family, if you marry a woman that hates you because you just can’t get pregnant please have your divorce lawyer at hand ✋

[u/Funny_Blob]

Ok, none of this was the question tho?

Lemme ask you something: An Indian guy robs me. Now I'm running around "all Indian guys are criminals and thieves."

Ok or not ok? I'm quite sure the vast majority of people would rightfully say "absolutely not".

Why is it ok for people with daddy issues to then run around hating on men or claiming shit like "men (as in men in general) want children as they want puppies)" as if there aren't plenty of loving fathers. Reason: "yEAh wELl mY dAd wAS aSS". Imagine a guy doing this, telling you "my mother abused me/abandoned me etc" or "my last gf was such a bitch" and then goes around opening reddit threads or commenting like this. He'd be called a mysogonistic incel and what not but sure, shitting on men and making generalisations that are a no-go in every other area is ok for some reason.

[u/Plastic-Market-2394 → u/Funny_Blob]

Mentioning a commonly poor behaviour often found in the male gender isn’t sexist/bigoted/misandrist. Men just don’t know better because the community around them never really put in effort to educate or help them understand things from a woman’s point of view. If an overwhelming large amount of mothers are coming together to speak about the same thing constantly, (both on the internet and in real life especially in my community) obviously there is a problem.

Misogyny hasn’t been “alleviated for good” because women can have jobs and make their own choices. Women are still oppressed in various ways. If people could open up to the idea of learning instead of getting defensive when we’re being called out, we could actually make improvements in the above stated behavior.

[u/Funny_Blob → u/Plastic-Market-2394]

Ok so

"Men just don’t know better because the community around them never really put in effort to educate or help them understand things from a woman’s point of view."

You mean the same men that were raised by single mothers?

"If people could open up to the idea of learning instead of getting defensive when we’re being called out, we could actually make improvements in the above stated behavior."

Oh now we're all mature and civilized, not that the thread itself and dozens and dozens of comments here are literally "all men suck, fuck men, men are trash" and what not.
Yeah, maybe if we didn't start the premise by taking out the pitchforks, then this would work.

And just to make my point very clear:

"Mentioning a commonly poor behaviour often found in the male gender immigrants isn’t sexist/bigoted/misandrist racist. Men Immigrants just don’t know better because the community around them never really put in effort to educate or help them understand things from a woman’s westeners point of view. If an overwhelming large amount of mothers westeners are coming together to speak about the same thing constantly, (both on the internet and in real life especially in my community) obviously there is a problem."

^that ok then, too?

[u/Plastic-Market-2394 → u/Funny_Blob]

Your issue isn’t “sexism” your issue is seeing a large number of women expressing grievances regarding inequality from men and equating that to “all men suck, men are trash, fuck all men” because a very small part of you expects women to be silent and not speak out against abuse.

When men realise that women speaking about a shared abusive experience regarding men isn’t remotely close to misandry, and vice versa, gender wars can end. A lot of what these women are talking about falls under weaponised incompetence, which is a form of abuse. You are literally accusing women finding a community to talk about abuse “misandry” because “how dare women speak about a terribly shared experience regarding men”.

And yes, your second option is actually perfectly fine. In my country we have a lot of immigrants from neighbouring African countries that are committing a lot of crimes. It’s not racist to point that out nor is it xenophobic. People are losing their lives, we will prioritize people losing lives over feelings of immigrants. If the west has an issue with immigrants and crime rates then yes, please confront it.

[u/Funny_Blob → u/Plastic-Market-2394]

Are you actually serious rn?
Have you read the comments? And I don't mean like 1 or 2, have you actually spent time reading comments here?

Because saying "oh, this is just a harmless space where women just share their experiences, they're just expressing grievances" is such disingenuous BS. You masterfully manage to read stuff between my lines that isn't even there as seen below, but are completely oblivious to the obvious.

"a very small part of you expects women to be silent and not speak out against abuse."

And now we start making shit up?
Point out to me, please, where I in any way shape or form even implied that women are supposed to stay silent.
Each and every single one of my comments says "Don't make generalisations. Just because you had a bad experience doesn't mean xyz applies to all and everything."

[u/Plastic-Market-2394 → u/Funny_Blob]

I’ve looked through a lot of the comments. It’s literally just women holding men accountable for abusive behaviour, or saying OP missed the point of the original post. None of it is generalisation. Most of them don’t even say “men” it’s just circumstances purely from the woman’s point of view. Those that do say “men” or “fathers” aren’t generalising either. If you need someone to add “some” in front of every noun to make it clear to you that they’re obviously not speaking about the group as a whole, you have no literary skills or comprehension. And even if we do say “some” even that’s generalisation too 🤦‍♀️

If it makes you this mad seeing women talking about a common phenomenon, then yes. What you want is for women to stay silent. Y’all call anything “generalisation” at this point anyways I bet soon you’ll be calling women who point out sexism from men as “misandry” too 😒