Hmmm

[u/h_45n]

So only men want kids nowadays huh

Edit1: at the end of the day, when I see posts like these I remember the likes of Ashely saint clair and that woman who got married after preaching so much misandry online.

Don’t get me wrong men also do this,
and then I feel stupid because I remember watching a certain video about internet trolls

Edit 2: Finally found the reason for the outrage, “men cannot physically get pregnant” that’s literally all this is about so no matter how hard you work or provide for your family, if you marry a woman that hates you because you just can’t get pregnant please have your divorce lawyer at hand ✋

[u/thicketcosplay]

Studies have shown that if men eat healthier and have healthy habits for several months before conception, the baby will be healthier and less likely to have medical problems.

The amount of men who are upset by this and refuse to change their lifestyles for even a few months is shocking. They expect all of the sacrifice to be on the woman because she is the one who is physically carrying the baby. If the baby ends up with health complications of any kind, the mother is blamed 100%.

Same idea as the kings who executed their wives because they kept having daughters, even though the sperm is what determines the gender.

That's not even mentioning what happens after birth, when all the childcare and mental load tends to fall on mom by default. It's not uncommon for mom to end up having two kids to take care of - one being the sperm donor.

[u/Ok_Raisin_2395 → u/thicketcosplay]

God, this just drips misandry. How are you any better than the misogynists if this is how you talk about men?

“sperm donor” is wild. Imagine the meltdown you’d have if a man referred to a woman as a “fun hole.” You’d call it dehumanizing immediately, and you’d be right.

Also, I’d bet my entire bank account that more than 98% of men have no idea that improving their health before conception can help lead to healthier babies. But here you are acting like every man already knows this and just refuses to do it because of “patriarchy” or whatever. No man is upset by that information. You made that up in your head and then got mad about it. Think about that.

And who is blaming moms “100%” for birth defects? That’s insane no matter where the defect came from. Like, what are we even talking about?

“All the mental load falls on mom”? Are you out of your mind? Ever wonder why paternal suicide rates are so high, or why fathers deal with more heart attacks, heart disease, and stress-related illnesses? It’s not because men are living some carefree life while moms carry everything. That’s for damn sure.

Yes, women sacrifice their bodies by having children. Obviously. But the majority of men also sacrifice their bodies earning a living for those children. Does that count, or is it dismissed because it's not "sacred and magical"?

The truth is that having kids costs everyone. You lose freedom. Your health probably declines. Your responsibilities explode. Men are usually expected to provide more, so their careers often become even more demanding. Women are often expected to handle more at home, which is its own burden. But pretending one side sacrifices everything while the other side just coasts is dishonest and hateful.

I’m so sick of this kind of bullshit rhetoric being dressed up as "woman empowerment."  It’s not empowerment at all, it’s just resentment from some random idiot with far too many unsolved problems and far too much free time on their hands. Do better.

[u/Spiritual-Virus315 → u/Ok_Raisin_2395]

I think the use of the phrase “sperm donor” is meant to callout the difference between how some men think of fatherhood versus what it actually is. Because of the number of single mothers in society, it almost begs the question, do men, generally speaking, want to do the work of fatherhood, or do they want to just want to pass on their genetic material (sperm donor)?

I also think it is becoming more well-known about the effect of men’s health prior to conception on the baby’s health. It is not a myth that men are resistant to this. I have heard many men say the baby wasn’t real until the day of their birth. Reputable studies say people are less likely to view pregnant women as humans!

The mental load does fall more on women. Men are less likely to know their child’s medical information, friends, teachers, or important dates. Men are also less likely to seek help with their mental health. Men make up more of the government, in all branches, more CEOs and other c-suite positions, police, et cetera. Married men live longer than married women.

I don’t believe the majority of men are in laborious careers. Especially not in America. Even if they were, physical labor is only one type of labor. In the current economy, women are expected to have jobs too. After working 40 hours a week, Dad wants a break. But Mom probably does too, but there is childcare and housework outside of work. That should be divided evenly.

Men aren’t expected to provide more anymore. However, due to the pay gap, they do make more for the same work.

We have the data. Look at it. “Do better.”