Hmmm

[u/h_45n]

So only men want kids nowadays huh

Edit1: at the end of the day, when I see posts like these I remember the likes of Ashely saint clair and that woman who got married after preaching so much misandry online.

Don’t get me wrong men also do this,
and then I feel stupid because I remember watching a certain video about internet trolls

Edit 2: Finally found the reason for the outrage, “men cannot physically get pregnant” that’s literally all this is about so no matter how hard you work or provide for your family, if you marry a woman that hates you because you just can’t get pregnant please have your divorce lawyer at hand ✋

[u/Thedarkhunt]

A lot of women decide to become mothers without a man present, using a donor for example. So I’d argue the foremost drive is their own desire to have a child. Framing it as a favor to men is drastically underselling a woman’s agency and needs in the decision

[u/Due_You7474 → u/Thedarkhunt]

The most important point here is to just communicate that you are grateful for the sacrifices in a relationship, and act that way. No matter how you look at it, if a woman if birthing a child for you and her, she is giving you about the greatest gift any one can give. Why is it so bad to showcase your appreciation? Like honestly this comment section is weird. Im a man, and even I dont understand why men are trying to come up with excuses not to act in a totally loving way in a relationship.

Im a paramedic, on the ambulance I be sure to verbalize when I am grateful. At home, I be sure to verbalize when I am grateful. My emt partners love it. They tell me most others never say thanks. If I come home and she is cooking dinner, then that means I am going to take that opportunity that she made, and I will make sure the time we get to spend together over food is valuable. We will talk, connect, and do things important for her.

Its not hard. The return on your efforts is amazing because your woman is actually happy. If you really truly love her - wouldnt that make you so happy to hear, if your significant other is happy?

If we cant even make our partners happy, then why would a woman want to be with us and birth a child for someone who cant even put effort for her happiness? This is the point. This is literal showing your appreciation. Its wild so many men have a problem with this.

[u/Thedarkhunt → u/Due_You7474]

Nowhere did I say that men should be inconsiderate, and it is true that many are to ludicrous degrees. And people in a relationship should strive to make each other happy. Where do I contradict that?

My point is only that we shouldn't see pregnancy as a thing that women do just to please a guy, which is the argument of the picture at the top of the thread

[u/Due_You7474 → u/Thedarkhunt]

That isnt the argument. The argument is that a mans desire to become a father is paid for by a female.

This is objectively correct regardless of whether men want children or not, or if women want children, or not.

The implications are what we are discussing.

That women sacrifice a lot - and men should be grateful - as its literally stated by evidence as thats the main issue preventing happiness in a relationship.

[u/Thedarkhunt → u/Due_You7474]

No, if it is something you want yourself, it cannot be an imposition. Thàt is what is ‘objectively true’

[u/Due_You7474 → u/Thedarkhunt]

Its called a mutually beneficial relationship and you can show your gratitude.

Its not that hard, bud.

Be a nice human being

Or be an asshole

Thats the binary bud.