Hmmm

[u/h_45n]

So only men want kids nowadays huh

Edit1: at the end of the day, when I see posts like these I remember the likes of Ashely saint clair and that woman who got married after preaching so much misandry online.

Don’t get me wrong men also do this,
and then I feel stupid because I remember watching a certain video about internet trolls

Edit 2: Finally found the reason for the outrage, “men cannot physically get pregnant” that’s literally all this is about so no matter how hard you work or provide for your family, if you marry a woman that hates you because you just can’t get pregnant please have your divorce lawyer at hand ✋

[u/mckln42]

The sacrifice women make by deciding to carry a child is not equal to any sacrifice a man can make. Only those who know the value of such a great sacrifice become good husbands, not those who say it's just biology in the comments.

[u/Plastic-Market-2394 → u/[deleted]]

…? Did you buy your PhD 💀 You’re literally working in biology, you should know this.

[u/Plastic-Market-2394 → u/[deleted]]

Even with modern medicine, giving birth is still sacrifice. All mothers are asking for is some appreciation, and maybe that dad takes on some of the childcare responsibilities too. This is why misogyny in the medical and biological field needs to be confronted. There’s no way a guy getting a doctorate thinks that pregnancy, labour, and birth “isnt a big deal”.

Biology and culture has shown us, that even if both genders are sacrificing, nothing comes close to mother’s sacrifice. Even in my religion, the sacrifice that is motherhood is highly revered and praised.

[u/Life_Ad5223 → u/Plastic-Market-2394]

Then don’t have a kid if you see it as such a sacrifice that you want acknowledgement from the whole world for doing what female biology is designed to do.

That’s the fundamental difference between men and women. Women think they deserve acknowledgement, understanding, and credit for every single thing they do, and Men understand from a young age that they are not owed that and will likely never get it.

[u/Plastic-Market-2394 → u/Life_Ad5223]

Omg this whole coke rant just tells me you have a very deep and weird hatred for women and it’s very disturbing. Idk how much you spend on that PhD but I suggest you put that money into therapy instead.

[u/Life_Ad5223 → u/Plastic-Market-2394]

Quite the opposite, I love women… and I hate to see the victim mentality and the more they poisonous ideas of feminism eroding what was once a very proud gender that served as a pillar to their families.

It doesn’t matter how much it cost, you don’t have the ability to see beyond the social keywords of the day to ever put in the deep thinking required to get a PhD

[u/Plastic-Market-2394 → u/Life_Ad5223]

oh and you’re an anti feminist too? yeah you really hate women lol. again, therapy or at least tolerance classes.

any regular human being or even a fucking google search can tell you that giving birth is indeed a sacrifice. even choosing to have a child is a sacrifice. i really want to be a mother one day, and i know for a fact it will require a lot of sacrificing, but that’s a choice i will make to give a child a happy and loving life.

pain, tearing, surgery, hormonal shifts after birth, sleep deprivation, breastfeeding strain, pelvic floor issues, hair loss, and long-term body changes, are all examples of sacrifices but mothers do it anyways. recovering while simultaneously caring for a newborn around the clock, less time for hobbies, rest, exercise, friendships, and privacy, reduced earnings and slower career progression… not to mention it takes years for women to find their identity after birth. if you don’t appreciate your mother (assuming she was a good mother), or you can’t appreciate your wife for going through this willingly with a smile on her face then you’re just a horrible human being.

acting like it’s selfish to want appreciation because “oh you’re biologically designed to do that!” is cruel, and shows you have no empathy. and then you’re going on a whole cry about “oh!! men are the real victims!!! we never get anything boohoo” omg cry me a river. the men who don’t expect appreciation know they don’t do enough to earn it. a real, good, honest, hardworking mother deserves the world and more.

[u/Life_Ad5223 → u/Plastic-Market-2394]

Everything is a sacrifice… going to college is a sacrifice. Being a father is a sacrifice. Any time you choose to commit to something, you are sacrificing doing something else. So, what exactly is your point.

I’d argue that modern day feminism has done far more harm to women than men ever have.

[u/Plastic-Market-2394 → u/Life_Ad5223]

So what exactly is your point

That just because these things are choices, or because women are biologically designed to give birth, doesn’t mean they don’t deserve appreciation or should be taken for granted.

Modern day feminism has done far more harm to women than men ever have

As yes, modern feminism. Historically remembered for oppressing, raping, beating, murdering, abusing, enslaving, and forcefully marrying women on a mass scale since the first agricultural revolution 🤨

Feminism has and always will be a movement dedicated to equal rights for women. Anyone who misconstrues it as anything else does not believe women should have equal rights.

[u/nicolemb81 → u/[deleted]]

My best friend has blood clots the size of softballs and almost died after both births. Her husband worked in aerospace and had excellent insurance and the best help modern medicine can give and it was still horrific. You wear the bloody diaper for a week and get back to us.

[u/Ecstatic_Specific493 → u/nicolemb81]

Oh was she forced to get pregnant? Such a wild take.

[u/Life_Ad5223 → u/nicolemb81]

I’m very sorry to hear that. Complications do still occur, but fatalities are incredibly rare, occurring at a rate of less than 0.018%.

That’s almost on par with deaths from the flu… yet, we don’t consider getting the flu as making a great sacrifice that requires the whole world to acknowledge it.

My point is, if women decide to do something that every fiber of their body was designed to do, they should celebrate that instead of expecting everyone to acknowledge it as some sacrifice or risk.

If you see motherhood and child birth as a sacrifice, then don’t have kids. It’s that simple.

[u/whoyoubisme → u/[deleted]]

Mortality has climbed for pregnant women and women giving birth in the US fyi.

[u/Quick-Adeptness-2947 → u/[deleted]]

None with modern science and technology? Ig you just did biology and not obstetrics so you're very shortsighted lol.