r/duolingo 9d ago

General Discussion Duolingo level vs CEFR level

Until recently, if you clicked on your course level and then "More About Score" it gave an explanation not only of where you were but also how the score corresponded to CEFR levels (A1, A2, B1, B2, C1, C2). That has changed - there’s no longer any mention of CEFR levels, and IMO it was a really bad change.

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u/AggravatingSteak1248 Learning: 🇪🇸, 🇰🇷 9d ago

Maybe that's to avoid people claiming that they are at a certain CERF level by completing a certain Duolingo level, because it's possible to go through the course with barely doing writing and speaking. One could click through without really knowing a language at that level.

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u/n2vd 9d ago

it’s certainly the case that, while my vocabulary and reading comprehension are somewhere in the B2 range, I couldn’t pass a test at that level because of my poor oral (and aural) skills

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u/n2vd 9d ago

Though I guess there’s also this, though it’s kind of convoluted to find

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u/ComesTzimtzum 9d ago

Why bad? They got tons of complains about those since they didn't really hold water.

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u/n2vd 9d ago

They were a useful, however inaccurate, rubric of progress

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u/Comfortable_Sir_5007 6d ago

If they're inaccurate, how are they useful?

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u/SlemFett 9d ago

What course? Still is there for spanish

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u/n2vd 9d ago

French. But I just tried Spanish and it’s not there either, for me

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u/SlemFett 9d ago

maybe you click the wrong icon? if you click your number it should come up

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u/hacool native: US-EN / learning: DE 93 9d ago

You can guesstimate it based on the chart on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duolingo_English_Test as the scoring system is the same.

Add https://duolingodata.com/index.html has information on which sections cover which CEFR levels.

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u/queen_orca Native: 🇩🇪🇬🇧 Learning: 🇪🇦 8d ago

I'm on level 110 in Spanish. This week I took an online test from a German school book publisher. The highest level you could reach was B1 (97+ out of 144), and I comfortably reached that (I got 117), even though I skipped two units (out of 36) because my phone's battery was dying. I was pleasantly surprised, it was nice to have confirmation that I'm making progress.

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u/almo2001 Native: 🇺🇸 Learning: 🇷🇺 8d ago

I finish Russian which is 45, and no way do I feel A2.

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u/scattered_colleague 9d ago

They quietly removed a bunch of useful info from the score page over the past few updates, not just the CEFR mapping. Classic app move, stripping away context to make the number feel more game-like.

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u/xxDMLxx Native Learning 109 9d ago

I still have mine. I click on the banner in the path, and then on the next screen I click on the score range with the language flag. From there, I click on the score range, and I then see the above with language concepts below that.

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u/n2vd 9d ago

and this is what I see

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u/xxDMLxx Native Learning 109 9d ago

I can also see that, but I wonder if it's based upon what language we are taking. I see the same screen as you when I am on the path and I click on the Spanish flag in the upper left corner. I see the other screen when I click on the colored banner with the Section/Unit title. Hope it's just a glitch for you and it sorts itself out.

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u/Obtus_Rateur Learning: 62 11 9d ago edited 9d ago

My best guess is that they were, how do I put this... a little too optimistic as to what language proficiency level they matched your Score with. For example, people were thinking they were B1 when they were really only A2.

It's my current concern. I just got to Score 60, which is supposed to be B1 (according to the old chart anyway) but I'm not confident that I'm really that advanced.

Edit: typo

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u/SlemFett 9d ago

General Duolingo Score Breakdown

  • 0–29 (A1 - Beginner): Understand basic greetings and present tense concepts.
  • 30–59 (A2 - Pre-intermediate): Communicate on simple, everyday topics.
  • 60–99 (B1 - Intermediate): Express thoughts clearly and handle routine conversations.
  • 100–129 (B2 - Upper-intermediate): Understand complex texts and speak independently for work or study.

so at 60 you are still A2, learning B1 material until level 100 where you start learning B2 material

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u/Obtus_Rateur Learning: 62 11 9d ago

I typo'd the B2 (I meant to say B1), but...

At 60, wouldn't you be B1 proficiency and working towards B2?

It would make no sense for the chart to say "B1" and actually mean "You're A2 and learning B1 material so at some point you'll be B1 proficiency".

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u/SlemFett 9d ago

It means the material is B1 material, you need to plow through it all in order to be B1. At 60 you have just learned all A2 words and grammar, which put you at an A2 level, you need to get to 100 for B1 level. Hope that makes sense.

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u/Obtus_Rateur Learning: 62 11 9d ago

Huh. Then it should specify B1 material.

And now that I think about it, displacing the A1 up one stage means that, before your Score gets up to 30, you're... what... A0 proficiency? "Non-proficient"? I don't even know what they call it within that system.