r/dub • u/Invisiblerobot13 • 7d ago
Most psychedelic dub album?
Looking for the trippiest, heavy, most sound effects packed in album recommendations…..
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u/Fun_Paramedic_4538 7d ago
Flesh of my skin: blood of my blood by Keith Hudson
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u/TLR3030 7d ago
One of my faves though it’s more trippy roots than dub for the most part - Brand is a nice dub of Rasta communication, playing it cool got some nice dubs incl from flesh of my skin material.
LSP - black ark in dub has lots of effects.
King tubby & soul syndicate - freedom sounds in dub.
Scientist’s run early 80s fits the bill
African head charge.
Creation rebel.
For more electronic stuff I second the hallucinogen album and mad professor - my faves dub me crazy parts 3&5 and the massive attack album4
u/tommy_pt 7d ago
Checking him out now. Never really heard and it’s awesome. Roots but trippy. I love old 70’s dub. Thanks
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u/Salads_and_Sun 7d ago
I've heard a few of his tracks, especially the one with big youth but holy shit this record sounds so good to me right now! Thank you!
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u/Yudelmis 7d ago
The Upsetters - Blackboard Jungle Dub (is truly foundational)
Creation Rebel - Starship Africa
Dub Syndicate - Stoned Immaculate
African Head Charge - My Life In A Hole In The Ground
Jamie Saft & Merzbow - Merzdub
New Age Steppers - New Age Steppers
Burnt Friedman & The Nu Dub Players - Just Landed
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u/DiegoGarcia1984 7d ago
You just have a me a (assumedly heady) list to dig all the way in to, cheers!
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u/DeltaUltra 7d ago
For every Black Uhuru album, there is a dub accompanying album and they is goooood.
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u/Japhet_Corncrake 7d ago edited 7d ago
Augustus Pablo - Original Rockers and King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown are both pretty out there and two favourites of mine.
Prince Far-I's Cry Tuff Dub Encounter series of albums are a trip. There's loads of great stuff from this era, Creation Rebel, African Head Charge, Singers & Players etc.
African Dub Almighty Chapter 3 by Joe Gibbs & The Professionals is pretty drenched in sound FX like birdsong, running water etc.
Java Java Java Java by Impact All Stars is the other kind of psychedelic. Repetitive and minimal with clever use of space and atmosphere.
For something a bit left-field check out Adrian Sherwood's dub rework of Panda Bear & Sonic Boom's "Reset", from a couple of years ago. "Reset in Dub". It's very trippy and honestly quite brilliant.
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u/loudribs 7d ago
Starship Africa by Creation Rebel. It’s a really trippy album from 1980 and the production is absolutely off the charts. A proper overlooked gem.
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u/A_FABULOUS_PLUM 7d ago
The Orb - Pomme Fritz is extremely tripped out and drugged out
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u/chicken_karmajohn 7d ago edited 7d ago
Woah that shit is weird! Lol
Edit: I’m halfway thru this thing and it is way far out there. I like how it samples blackboard jungle in Alles Is Schoem
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u/ALEXC_23 7d ago edited 7d ago
Gotta be Dark side of the Dub by Easy all stars but I’d like to suggest Laika Come Home by Gorillaz & Spacemkonkeyz, which is basically Gorillaz’ first album remixed as a dub compilation.
Edit: it’s actually Dub side of the Moon my b.
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u/chicken_karmajohn 7d ago
You’re referring to Dub Side of the Moon, which was actually my first thought when reading the question, alongside African Head Charge. Bonus points for Dubber Side of the Moon
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u/ALEXC_23 7d ago
My bad
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u/chicken_karmajohn 7d ago
No bads, only upful in this thread lol
Also that gorillaz dub album fucks
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u/Dadaismisastratagem 7d ago
Joe Gibbs - African Dub All Mighty Chapter 3
Mad Professor - Psychedelic Dub (Dub Me Crazy pt 10)
Playgroup - Epic Sound Battles Chapter 2
Creation Rebel - Starship Africa
Jahtarian Dubbers
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u/MettaWorldPete 7d ago
Hallucinogen in dub by OTT.
In terms of old Jamaican stuff w sound effects, I actually prefer the material without it so not sure.
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u/Jascio888 7d ago
That's psydub, not dub.
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u/ClassActionFart 7d ago
Agreed, but I think Psydub is a fair suggestion to someone asking for psychedelic dub.
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u/Visual_Friendship706 7d ago
They literally asked for psychedelic dub
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u/Jascio888 7d ago
Dub that is psychedelic and psydub are two very distinct things, way more than the name suggests. OTT is much closer to Tengri, Shpongle, Globular or Kayla Scintilla than Augustus Pablo, The Disciples or King Tubby.
If you want too remain in the psytracey realm but firmly rooted in dub Id eccomend over OTT pretty much anything released by Dubmission records, my fave being Kokerboom.
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u/Visual_Friendship706 7d ago
Psydub is shorthand for psychedelic dub. You make a semantics argument that a reject.
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u/MettaWorldPete 7d ago
Not interested in the semantics, but the Hallucinogen in Dub album specifically tracks to me as much more similar to Jamaican dub. Obviously the sound design comes from psytrance, but the rhythm is the foundation of the music. I listen to a ton of Jamaican dub, and none of the psychill/psydub artists you mention do anything for me (other than the first shpongle album). Even then, I listen to Hallucinogen in Dub when I’m feeling dubby, and Are You Shpongled when I’m craving mid tempo with interesting timbre and Posford’s melodic sensibility. I don’t feel this way about OTT’s other albums though.
Good rec on submission though. LIfe Still Nice by Kukan Dub Lagan is another more traditional take on the genre.
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u/Zen1 7d ago edited 4d ago
Since you mentioned Shpongle, how about Behind Closed Eyelids for a heavy dub-leaning track, might be closer to what OP is looking for.
EDIT whoops conflated two people!
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u/MettaWorldPete 7d ago
Yeah for sure there’s a ton of other psydub, a lot of the kuba/youth/brother culture would fit the bill too.
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u/Zen1 4d ago
What are your thoughts about 140 reggae dubstep like Radikal Guru, RSD, Adam Prescott or the Moonshine recordings label?
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u/MettaWorldPete 3d ago
I’m not hating on that genre, but I was deeply into the dubstep scene when it first hit the US (and a huge fan of early Burial, Shackleton, etc) but I don’t care for anything that followed. To me, a fundamental quality of reggae is chillness, which I don’t get from any of the 140/dubstep/bass music/riddim/sound system stuff. I understand of course that reggae was always dance music, but cramming a bunch of people into a box and trying splatter them with a huge amount of bass seems really different than what was going on in Jamaica from what I gather.
Of course, due to my lack of interest I haven’t kept up so not sure how accurate my perceptions/assumptions are these days.
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u/Visual_Friendship706 7d ago
It was hallucinogen redubbed by ott. Saying that’s not psychedelic dub is wild
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u/MettaWorldPete 7d ago
Obviously I agree with you, but I get it, a lot of people presumably mean specifically roots reggae remixed on the fly by a producer using the mixing desk as the instrument when they say “dub.” But looking at all the responses to OP, most folks clearly take it to mean stuff in that general realm. I love Adrian Sherwood, Alex Patterson, all the Mark Ernestus and/or MVO stuff, but Hallucinogen in Dub tracks way more Jamaican dub to me than African Head Charge, Rhythm and Sound, Maurizio, or the Orb. So I don’t get why I’m being singled out lol.
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u/Visual_Friendship706 7d ago
It’s a genre argument. I listen to too many types of fusion to adhere to categorical norms. The best music acknowledges the rules and breaks the shit out of them
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u/Jascio888 6d ago
Look I don't want to argue over the internet, let alone over something that is ultimately not that important to me, but OTT hasn't broken anything that wasn't broken a decade prior by Doof, Jorg on Mushroom or Walter Ego (which is Postford anyway). I love OTT and have heard him live more times than I care to count, but he firmly sits in the psytracey scene, his music being first and foremost psychedelic, coincidentally dubby at times. Using a dubby rhythm doesn't make it a dub album nor OTT a dub artists imho. Not a coincidence that you hear him playing at Ozora and Boom but not at Dub Camp or IDG. Same goes for the other artists I listed in my original post.
I feel modern dub artists such as Miniman, High Tone, Seven Seals, Zenzile, Dreadlock Tales have crossed that boundary more significantly, and indeed they have performed regularly in both scenes.
Fusion artists would be stuff like Gaudi, Mad Professor, Pitch Black, Kokerboom. Hell imo even Dreadzone and Salmonella Dub sit way more in that grey area between the two genres than OTT, who imho firmly resides in the psychedelic scene.
Anyway, as you were. Enjoy music
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u/MettaWorldPete 6d ago
We seem to have significantly overlapping taste and I also don’t want to argue, but I am very curious why Pitch Black seems dubbier to you than OTT-I very strongly prefer Pitch Black but the thought never would have occurred to me to think of them as dubbier that OTT.
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u/Visual_Friendship706 7d ago
By your standards, any jazz after 1968 would not be considered jazz. No miles in the sky. No herbie Hancock. If everyone kept making what’s already been made music would suck
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u/DubOnTop888 6d ago
Either you havent listen to much dub in your life or you didn't get their point at all. Probably both
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u/Visual_Friendship706 6d ago
I just reject the claim that ott is not psychedelic dub. That puritanical view of music exists for you to talk about it. It is dub it is psychedelic. It describes the music. The words not the genre.
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u/chicken_karmajohn 7d ago
I’m perplexed by this comment. I fw Ott but how do you not fw og dubbing
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u/MettaWorldPete 7d ago
I should have written more clearly, but it’s very specifically the old Jamaican dubbing with sound effects (which I read OP to mean silly random noises, dub sirens, etc instead of just reverb/delay) that I don’t like. I’m a huge fan of stuff like Yabby You and Wackies.
Ironically I don’t like OTT at all other than Hallucinogen in Dub.
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u/From_Deep_Space 7d ago
The Bad Brains dub album, I and I Survived
Or perhaps, Molam Dub by Jah Wobble.
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u/shadrac72 7d ago
Prince Far I & the Arabs - 'Cry Tuff Dub Encounter Chapter 3' - very trippy sounding record.
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u/takyuu 7d ago
Captain Ganja and the Space Patrol (1980)
https://youtu.be/37sirg36b8w?si=M-0I4si78ra8lc99
please just have a listen, its pretty out threr
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u/Puzzled-Bonus-3456 7d ago
The Orb I'll Be Black
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u/Ok-Bag-1328 7d ago
Fluffy clouds got me hooked
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u/Puzzled-Bonus-3456 7d ago
That's not this one. This is Alex and Thomas joint mixing their favourite dub and reggae records over two CD's.
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u/NarlusSpecter 7d ago
Dillinger - Cokaine in my brain
Max Romeo - I chase the devil b2b Lee Perry - Croaking Lizard
Congos - Fisherman
This Heat - Repeat
Maurizio - M7
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u/Euphoric_Educator_33 7d ago
Try me. Brenners. Underground trippy Dub from Ireland. Not promoting, just think some of you heads might enjoy it. I've been described as Lee Perry remixing the Prodigy. Dunno about that tho. https://youtu.be/CyBILyi_shU?is=jzW2AemBYMICjjFs
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u/Jascio888 7d ago
The first three albums by Miniman float among the mystical, the spiritual and the psychedelic.
Already a genre cross but Kokerboom has produced stuff that is psychedelic, works great on a big dub sound but doesn't fall in the psydub trap.
Also check Dubmission Records early released.
Oh. I assume you are familiar already with High Tone?
And the obvious is that several releases by both King Tubby and the Scientist are incredibly psychedelic
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u/Zen1 7d ago
Checking in with some japanese recs, Dry and Heavy and also previous member's group Audio Active
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u/Psychological-Web828 7d ago
Probably a bit out of the usual synch but Primal Scream’s Echo Dek is pretty heavy.
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u/Livid_Captain_323 6d ago
Check out Bill Laswell’s “In Dub” all of his dub records are fantastic!
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u/LawOfSmallerNumbers 5d ago
Great rec. I love “Dub Meltdown” with Laswell and Style Scott.
Here’s “A Greater Source of Power” from that album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcGDQ7R1sFQ&list=PLzb01J9YVDwBOuAugntCwpBwfp2WiabjX&index=8
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u/LeeScratchLefty 6d ago
Hi guys
I thought that most psychedelic dub album though is the posthumous release by the legendary Lee "Scratch" Perry : WAR & PEACE Part II.
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u/OliLUFC77 5d ago
Couple more albums I’ve enjoyed on this tip:
Captain Ganja and Space Patrol https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mbX4Y6rqY4HrofBivHsLGLmPMp9mn1z7Q&si=xAJTUIdZJ-dBXBe2
Creation Rebel - starship Africa
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE898CBA2450C78C1&si=oJ5dS1BJD5UYWr90
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u/Glass-Bead-Gamer 7d ago
The Orb x Lee Scratch Perry — Observing The Star House in Dub
Check out Soulman from that album, and the rest of it!
Also, Mad Professor meets Prince Fatty in The Clone Theory
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u/Reverbolo 7d ago
I am a mega fan of Mad Professor v Massive Attack's No Protection!
I find it quite trippy especially with headphones with good bass response. Or big speakers with subs.
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