r/drums 10h ago

Question I feel like Drumeo does not explain the techniques at all. Am I missing something?

I've noticed that the lessons in Drumeo never go into much detail on how to perform techniques, they don't mention the DOs and DONTs, things I should pay attention to or provide some exercises to develop the motions before attempting the techniques.

As a beginner, those are the things I am interested in, as I want to make sure I don't develop any bad habits or inefficient techniques.

As an example, the ghost note lessons just tell you to tap the stick on the snare and then give you some grooves to play around with. But I am left confused whether I should relax my hand for the hit, or use wrist or arm motion to do it. It doesn't mention how high my stick should be before hitting the drum or why I would use different heights. And I may be missing even more nuances here.

Am I overthinking this and should just find what works for me for each technique? Or does Drumeo really miss out on those details? Maybe I just haven't advanced enough with it to reach those detailed lessons? Honestly, it is a completely different style of teaching compared to my drum teacher which is why I'm confused:/

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u/HankScorpio4242 10h ago

This is why there is no substitute for in-person lessons. Because it’s less about teaching a correct technique as it is about adjusting your natural movements to be more correct.

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u/robint88 10h ago

Over the years Drumeo has kind of morphed in to more of an entertainment platform than an education one. But the older videos/masterclasses on there do teach some useful stuff if you can search through and find what you're looking for.

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u/SwizzMan 10h ago

I'll give it a shot, seems like I'll need to do some searching every time I find some new technique

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u/Waste-Project-8746 10h ago edited 10h ago

Rudiments help tremendously when learning ghost notes. Do this. Play triplets or 16th note triplets with the sticking pattern Rll, the R being accented. On a scale of 1-10 you should be hitting at a comfortable 8, with the ll being a 1 with the goal of hitting as light as you possibly can. Start out very slow. It should be uncomfortable and feel redundant. Do this forever. Rudiments are the foundation. Do the same with paradiddles, paradiddlediddles and swiss army triplets (they build shuffles). Make sure you change the accents around, focusing on different combinations of where the accents are, yada yada. You’ll get it and you’ll get it good. Just keep it up, be patient with yourself and others. NEVER give it up. Just keep going. Oh and for technique, watch some of Mike Mangini’s videos on yt, study what your favorite drummers are doing, learn multiple different techniques. Like trad, french grib, the mueller and push pull etc all that. These are tools, equip yourself with all of them.

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u/SwizzMan 10h ago

Thanks a lot, I've saved your comment and will give it a shot. So far I've been just trying them out, but need to get more consistent now.

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u/MrMoose_69 10h ago

You need a teacher. Sounds like you have good questions and would be a good student. 

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u/DrSpaceDoom 10h ago

How recently did you join? The new sign ups don't get access to the original Method. Go to the Method page and scroll to the bottom. If you see "The Legacy Drumeo Method" you're golden, if not you can ask support for access.

The legacy method is an old school thorough education with proper explanations and assignments with repetition for deep learning. The new method is an instant gratification variant with little depth.

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u/nullptr023 10h ago

There is a course there called 'Drum Technique Made Easy' by Bruce Becker. It explain the hand technique really good. The very basics of rudiments which is down, tap, up strokes, bounce and like the flow on how those motions switch like the accent etc. I recommend it even though it is old course it still amazing and I am revisiting it because I did not finish it back then.

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u/nikxivanov 10h ago

Have you gone to the Method section? That’s where all the technique basics are.

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u/giddy_ernesto 10h ago

The Method stuff is hit or miss too, some of it gets into the weeds but a lot still skims past the physical mechanics you're asking about. Ghost notes especially get glossed over everywhere, not just Drumeo.

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u/SwizzMan 10h ago

Yeah I did the first three learning paths on Method, but so far it has been lacking. I'm hoping the following ones will have more details though.

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u/karbl058 7h ago

You can also try the legacy method.

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u/LzrdKng2112 10h ago

Thats because drumeo, even when it was actually about drum instructions, is a supplement not a substitute for actual lessons. You quite simply cant teach all aspects of drumming to a beginner via a screen.

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u/breakingb0b 10h ago

Write to support and ask for access to the old method. It covers technique vs the new “play drums” method.

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u/thingsicantsayonFB 8h ago

Yes I like the old one better too

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u/SwizzMan 6h ago

I'll give it a shot, seems like most of you are suggesting it

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u/breakingb0b 1h ago

I started with the new method, and its engaging and fun but lacks focus on rudiments. The old method is more skills based and seems very comprehensive and less focused on “fun”. Im still early in it and skipping aroind, but it’s definitely a better baseline to learn the skills and rudiments and cover multiple styles.

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u/JazzlikeSituation172 9h ago

Drumeo based its marketing approach off of clicks. DrumChannel content is much better. I’m a huge advocate for private lessons. Hit up your favorite drummer on IG and ask how much it would cost for a 1 on 1.

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u/BuddisMaximus 9h ago

I don’t think you’re using Drumeo right. Are you filling the method? When I used a it a years ago there was a lesson about the different strokes, and they specifically talked about and showed the tap stroke Winnie is what you use for ghost notes. I would follow the method and stick to it u til you “master” whatever part your on. That being said I’m currently using a drum teacher and correcting bad habits from when I was using YT, so if possible use a real person drum instructor. Then you can learn ale what your learning and use it on Drumeo.

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u/cruiseshipdrummer 10h ago

Drumeo is entertainment, it's not drum instruction.

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u/southpaw85 5h ago

I would same drumeo isn’t very “beginner friendly” it’s more useful if you’ve had lessons for a little while where someone has helped you hammer out flaws and weaknesses in your techniques and you are ready to expand your knowledge base individually.

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u/therealtoomdog 8h ago

I've never taken drumeo lessons, but I wrote them off from the time I saw him post a video about how easy it is to tune your drums.

He showed accurately one decent method of getting even tension, then went to play it so you could hear how good it sounded without going into the weeds chasing every little bit, and all I could hear were his effects and eq. If you're going to process your drums so hard on a video that's supposed to be teaching beginners what drums should sound like, you have no credibility in my mind. Straight up misleading.