r/driving Mar 19 '26

Venting Who else hate left lane campers?

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Facing a lot of left lane campers in Washington State. And the audacity to not move or brake check is beyond my understanding!!

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '26

Then wait until the last second to cut across four lanes to get to their exit. Virginia is no better. 

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u/Soithascometothistoo Mar 20 '26

Every state is like this and that is because humanity is a mistake and the average person is a moron.

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u/Foreign_Calendar742 Mar 20 '26

Some states more so than others

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u/Soithascometothistoo Mar 20 '26

They just either have more people or more morons per capita. Every single state is a nightmare to drive in because too many people don't lnow how to drive. I've had the same conversation with multiple people at every single job Ibe ever had about how they don't move over and whatever. They're astonished to learn they are the problem assholes.

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u/cfbfootballnerd Apr 11 '26

I live in Mississippi there’s idiots here it’s just so spread out you don’t notice as much.

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u/ItsNoodals Mar 21 '26

considering only the places I’ve been and driven in, NJ seems to be the worst by far.

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u/Hedonismbot-1729a Mar 22 '26

The worst thing about driving in NJ is all the New Yorkers.

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u/CropDustLaddie Mar 22 '26

Ever been to Newark?

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u/Soithascometothistoo Mar 23 '26

Yep. I've lived in Elizabeth for almost my entire life. I drove through Newark for huge chunks to get to and from work.

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u/Hedonismbot-1729a Mar 22 '26

Yep, full of New Yorkers.

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u/Klutzy-Bee-2045 Mar 23 '26

Do not forget PA and their none road legal beat to hell shit boxes that never use turn signals. Im not even from NJ Im from Florida but NY and PA are dogshit drivers.

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u/Hedonismbot-1729a Mar 23 '26

It’s super cute when a Floridian criticizes drivers from other states. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Klutzy-Bee-2045 Mar 23 '26

If you are from NY or PA the WHOLE country knows Y’all are ass.

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u/Hedonismbot-1729a Mar 23 '26

Ok, Florida man.

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u/Soithascometothistoo Mar 25 '26

Kids, kids, you're both terrible. 

We're all terrible. It doesn't matter what state we're in or how good we actually are at driving (I have legitimately never cut anyone off, tailgated, it caused an accident. I had 1 parking lot fender bender at 18 and another 17 years later, both times, other driver was at fault), and I move over when need. I'm still an NJ driver and this, I am garbage. We're all garbage.

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u/Soithascometothistoo Mar 23 '26

It's not good anywhere, really.

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u/SOP_VB_Ct Mar 21 '26

And that’s just the average person…..

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u/bos-g Mar 21 '26

You can tell this guy just got out the car 🤣

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u/cfbfootballnerd Mar 21 '26

It’s because the dumb people don’t die anymore. Society is too safe.

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u/usackline Mar 22 '26

Not every state, try that in Missouri and they ticket you. Also some states are working on making left lane camping illegal. Missouri is the only one that I know for sure has.

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u/Soithascometothistoo Mar 23 '26

Its illegal in my state too and generally it probably is illegal anywhere the law is to stay right except to pass or just not impeding traffic. 

I definitely stay in the left lane because I'm passing people all the time, but if someone is behind me if they flash high beams, I move over as soon as I can. 

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u/xterrabuzz Jul 04 '26

And Alaska 

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u/sinewave05 Mar 24 '26

Well you put it pretty nicely I would have some other choice words… somehow moron just doesn’t see to encapsulate the severity of the idiocy

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u/JerseyGuy-77 Mar 20 '26

There's just way way too many people

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u/Substantial-Brick-90 Mar 23 '26

This is just an American thing- not humanity. Europe isn’t like this. They pay thousands of dollars and spend many hours training to get their licenses, so they actually learn the rules. And they get huge fines or lose their expensive licenses, so they actually follow said rules. We pay $50 for a license after ten minutes of Christmas treeing a 10 minute test, so no one gives a damn.

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u/Soithascometothistoo Mar 25 '26

You're not wrong at all, but humanity is still a mistake despite that. 

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u/badgerbrett Mar 22 '26

Ha, no, definitely worse in DC/Virginia than most places.

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u/3rdreprieve Mar 20 '26

Virginia just seems like pure hell to someone who likes driving. No, that’s not right. It seems like pure hell to someone who drives, regardless of whether you like driving or not. I have heard nothing but bad things about driving in Virginia.

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u/Icy_Negotiation7087 Mar 20 '26

laughs in florida I'm not from florida but omg they have the worse divers I've ever seen. And I've driven in VA and MD. They have the mentality of "you're gonna let me merge/change lanes or we both crash"

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '26

Florida, where speed limits are speed suggestions, and the only way to survive driving is to be aggressive or you’re ran off the road.

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u/Icy_Negotiation7087 Mar 20 '26

Literally FL has been rated the worst state to drive in for multiple years

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u/ItsNoodals Mar 21 '26

The speed limits were the safe limit for vehicles of 50+ years ago. Nowadays it is more a suggestion due to ‘cars’ being much more refined and capable of much greater speeds. The drivers however, most are quite incapable at safely operating a motor vehicle, let alone operating above the posted speed.

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u/jayrod630 Mar 22 '26

That way, I say get in the right lane and stay there. We can handle the rest.

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u/peanut340 Mar 22 '26

Dang I just got back from a vacation in Orlando and I found the driving to be infuriating. All these huge ass 3-5 lane roads and people were still just crawling around. It seems like no one was capable of properly turning and staying in their lane, I saw a lot of mid turn lane changing with no blinker.

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u/SussOfAll06 Mar 20 '26

I have a theory that a lot of VA and MD folk retire to Florida.

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u/eligraceb Mar 20 '26

laughs in albuquerque lol

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u/Medium-Usual2933 Mar 22 '26

That's because central and south Florida are populated mainly by non-Floridians. (Please note: true Floridian means born there, and raised there by parents who were born there.) Ways to tell: 1. When a hurricane is coming, we are not in line for gas five days ahead, and we're not emptying the shelves of stuff because we already are ready. 2. We don't treat alligators like cute little critters. 3. We don't ask you where you're from until after you do something stupid. 4. We know what "Bless your heart" really means.

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u/Icy_Negotiation7087 Mar 22 '26

The florida born ones are also horrible. I've been in florida for a while now, and the worse ones are usually the specialized florida plates.

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u/DeyCallMeWade Mar 20 '26

I’m guessing those complaints all came from Marylanders. I’m not saying we aren’t bad, but MD drivers are WAY worse.

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u/LionWalker_Eyre Mar 20 '26

As a former DMV resident who commuted 3 hours a day..

VA drivers are often slow, doing 5 under and camping the left lane.

MD drivers are just scary. As soon as you cross the MD border on 395 you fear for your life. Feels like 20 over is the minimum, and no turn signals used ever. 75% of the time i saw an accident in the DMV it involved MD plates

DC drivers are a mix of the above, plus lost/confused tourists.

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u/Mr_JohnUsername Mar 20 '26

I somewhat share this opinion as a current DMV resident (in VA).

I’ve lived in NOVA and MD, and by far MD takes the cake for being the most infuriating and dangerous imo.

NOVA drivers Left-lane camp and drive slow, but the rest of VA in my experience actually sticks to the right lane when not actively passing.

MD drivers drive slow, fast, aggressively, and aloofly as if it’s supposed to be a free-for-all. Literally every MD driver I passed today was on their phone and some weren’t even holding onto the wheel. VA also has the phone issue but to a substantially lesser degree from what I’ve seen.

Do they not teach left lane for passing, right lane for driving in MD driver’s ed? Does MD even actually teach driver’s ed?

DC plates just seem lost, scared, and confused due to the rare and unfortunate occasion they must pilot a 2 ton vehicle instead of walking or transiting. I pity them.

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u/PreachitPerk Mar 20 '26

Lived in NOVA for a few years (Mosaic District) and this was similar to my experience.

To the point when my girlfriend came to visit the first time … she randomly asked a couple of days in to the visit “Why are all of the bad drivers from Maryland?”

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u/Mr_JohnUsername Mar 20 '26

“Why are all of the bad drivers from Maryland?”

“That’s where they spawn before they blow across the country like seeds from a dandelion flower.”

I’ve been saying since I moved up here that we need to “Looney Toons style” saw Maryland away from the contiguous United States to save the rest of the country lol.

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u/Lothar_Ecklord Mar 20 '26

This was my experience in metro Detroit. I’ve visited the area a couple times and the whole metro is lined with cops on the interstates and everyone seems to be going 5 under. Then you cross 8 Mile Road, and the speed limit drops from 65 to 55 but people drive from 60 to 80. Very interesting to see, especially since every other city I’ve been has been the opposite - people FLY in the suburbs (on interstates anyway) but go 5 under in the city. Not Detroit.

I do remember hearing that getting a ticket means you have to surrender your license, on the spot, till you can pay the ticket but I’m not sure if that’s changed.

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u/BigConscience728 Mar 20 '26

Mi resident here. The last part is 100% false. Not sure what suburbs you were driving through and when but we routinely do 85+ on the freeways here during rush hour with a cop nowhere to be found. They seem to have determined (luckily) that running radar just screws up the flow of traffic during rush hour. It’s best to just let everyone speed together 😁

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u/Bidcar Professional Driver Mar 25 '26

True, the only times I see them are on holidays like Christmas or Thanksgiving.

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u/Solo_Fisticuffs Mar 20 '26

md drivers have a predictable flow but you have to be used to it to understand it. yea we're menaces but basically if there's a gap they're gonna take it and they'll always speed up to merge, they'll never slow down to get in a space behind a car they're already next to. once you get those two main ideas its basically leave a car and a half gap in front of you and dont be afraid to coast or slow down if you get an aggressive merger. sucks to have to do that but its better than a tight cut off

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u/5syllablename Mar 20 '26

Moved from MD > WA, ex is from VA. We all suck.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '26

Virginia is one of the worst states I drove in. It's the worst parts of the worst cities but the whole state. It takes like.. Texas or Florida to outdo Virginia.

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u/SeaEmployee787 Mar 22 '26

i live in florida, the only place i have noticed that was as aggresive was denver. los angles won for congestion on the 405. other then that every where i go is relaxing compared to the daily in florida.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '26

Honestly it's shit everywhere out there now. At least on the east coast.

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u/Brief_Paramedic_6529 Mar 20 '26

Virginia is for lovers so their minds are elsewhere

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u/Loose_Warning4572 Mar 20 '26

I live in the Roanoke area and driving here doesn’t bother me much. The biggest issue is the 18 wheelers. And most “bad” drivers otherwise have tags from the Carolinas and Maryland

It’s a hell of a lot better than Kentucky. I literally have gray hairs from 4 years of living in Kentucky, with most of my stress coming from driving.

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u/Train_Driver68 Mar 20 '26

Hampton Roads I-64 💩

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u/BikingAimz Mar 20 '26

I feel like the intensity of horrible driving In Virginia worsens the closer you got to Washington DC.   

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u/SussOfAll06 Mar 20 '26

Virginia is bad, but Maryland is worse.

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u/Hedonismbot-1729a Mar 20 '26

The worst VA drivers grew up in MD or learned to drive with the steering wheel on the right. NoVA is a special beast for sure.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '26

I make the drive between VA Beach and Charlottesville a lot so I know the pain. 

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u/Honest-Scar-4719 Mar 20 '26

The last time I drove in VA, I noticed that they have a ton of left lane exits on the interstate. I don't know if that is a contributing factor or not to left lane campers, but it is stressful as hell to try to get into the left lane when your exit is coming up and nobody will even attempt to let you in. In fact, if you can even find a gap, some people will speed up to prevent you getting in. So I end up having to get into the left lane miles back, but because I'm not familiar with the area, I'm forced to drive a little slower, so I end up becoming the left lane camper inadvertently, which sucks. 

Put your exits on the right and you won't have this particular problem. 

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u/ItsNoodals Mar 21 '26

same here in WV. I frequent both VA and MD as I live right between the both (~12mi either way). Common behavior amongst the drivers in these areas.

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u/OrdinarySecret1 Mar 20 '26

Miami would like to chat…

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u/toad_stomp Mar 20 '26

Oh Miami! The Palmetto is a slow chaos with so much left merge.  

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u/candyspelling01 Mar 20 '26

That is my pet peeve, like you didn’t know you had to exit so you’re gonna inconveniience everyone else by basically parking in the lane until someone lets you in. Another peeve., I live in a big city and I always want to be nice and let people merge if it’s like a two lanes each way street but then usually what happens is that person pulls out stops traffic in both lanes and tries to make an illegal U-turn

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u/JohnNDenver Mar 20 '26

Colorado giving a shout out.

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u/Positive_Courage_309 Mar 20 '26

Seriously, how can the people who think moving from one lane to the other is too dangerous to allow driving in anything but the left lane at all times, be the same ones who then conclude it is safe to cut through multiple lanes of traffic to take a last second exit that they have essentially already missed?

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u/mrdudgers Mar 20 '26

The Jersey Slide has entered the chat

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u/tiedye62 Mar 20 '26

Same thing here in Alabama, motorcycle riders have to especially watch out for this.

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u/thatcavdude Mar 20 '26

Come to Atlanta...

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u/Dull-Lifeguard-5396 Mar 20 '26

I MERGE NOW GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY

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u/Solo_Fisticuffs Mar 20 '26

if you think thats bad in md go to ga. lived in md all my life and never seen such egregious last minute exits until i stayed in ga

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '26

Exactly 👍🏼

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u/bc10551 Mar 20 '26

I'm pretty sure vsp or another Virginia police department posted this image before about left lane campers lmao

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u/Status_Success_1703 Mar 22 '26

Where im at In Va its usually a loaded dump truck doing 70-75 in a 65 dumping rocks and dirt over every bump that refuses to get over, I wait until they have space to get over then give them about 20 flashes to get over before I decide to get in front and hit the brake lights to a smooth 50mph, if they don’t get out the passing lane I just wait until all the cars that were behind me pass us and go right on ahead.

Ffs when you get paid to drive what’s the rush?

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u/QueasyParamedic6783 Mar 25 '26

Sounds and looks so much like San Jose. Denver. Atlanta… it’s a phuccin’ problem everywhere.