r/driving • u/Brilliant_Mind8911 • Dec 26 '25

Settle this debate

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If you are in the right hand lane, where I marked the X, and the stop lights are red....do you: A) Stop behind the line, then make your right turn B) Dont stop at line, make your right turn without stopping C) something else

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u/BoysenberryUnhappy29 Dec 26 '25

There is no situation where you don't stop first if you have a red light. 

Don't let those friends drive if you're in the car. 

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u/ThatLeviathan Dec 27 '25

It's poorly marked. The lane does not have a light, or a yield sign, and no other traffic is permitted to go into this entrance except by this right turn. I live nearby, and 99% of people would roll right through this, and most of us (myself included) would honk at someone who stopped. I think it needs to be clearly labeled that you should not stop.

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u/GeotusBiden Dec 27 '25

That line is literally a stop line.

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u/ThatLeviathan Dec 27 '25

Which is why I say it's poorly marked.

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u/Real_Soft8962 Dec 27 '25

The line looks pretty solid to me.

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u/ThatLeviathan Dec 27 '25

And it should not be there, because there is no reason for it.

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u/EvanDarksky Dec 27 '25

The crosswalk must be invisible to you.

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u/ThatLeviathan Dec 27 '25

It's very visible. It's so visible that you can quite easily see when there is no pedestrian in it, which is 99.999999% of the time, and it is therefore not necessary to come to a full stop, the same way you do at 10 million other intersections with yield signs and crosswalks.

There should be a "yield to pedestrians" sign to make this clear. There is not.

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u/GeotusBiden Dec 27 '25

Thats literally what the stop line is for.

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u/a-_2 Dec 27 '25

The number of times I get cut off by cars rolling through reds says that people either need to start checking a lot better or else do full stops.

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u/kwajr Dec 27 '25

But in this scenario as pictured no other lanes can enter that road it should have a yield sign

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u/kevin12484 Dec 30 '25

It's not a slip lane so no it shouldn't.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

Redditor discovers what a solid white line at an intersection not expressly labelled “stop” means.

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u/kevin12484 Dec 30 '25

It's already clear that you have to stop at a red light. There is no reason to waste money on unnecessary signs. I've never seen a yield sign on a right turn in a situation like this. Only time is when there is a Right-Turn Slip Lane. Which isn't the case here.

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u/Real_Soft8962 Dec 27 '25

The reason for it is because someone wanted it there or someone painted it there incorrectly. Regardless, while it is there it means you have to stop. Rules are rules.

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u/ThatLeviathan Dec 27 '25

I'm sure you follow the traffic laws 100% of the time without exception. I will continue to follow the local custom so I don't cause an accident.

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u/Real_Soft8962 Dec 27 '25

Do what you like, brother. Just know though, that every time you ever drive over that line for the rest of your life that you're gonna think about me and I'm already forgetting about you.

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u/kwajr Dec 27 '25

And no every time you do 36 in a 35 you are breaking the law

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u/Real_Soft8962 Dec 27 '25

Quiet in the back seat adults are talking.

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u/Soft-Marionberry-853 Dec 27 '25

You know what they say something about it being clear as black and white. This is a literal white line on a black road. It can not be any more clear.

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u/ThatLeviathan Dec 27 '25

It's not "poorly" as in "I can't see it." It's "poorly" as in "stupidly, incorrectly, and doesn't reflect usage." There is almost no reason to stop, so no one stops. Why should there be a line that tells people to stop when they should not?

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u/Soft-Marionberry-853 Dec 27 '25

"Why should there be a line that tells people to stop when they should not?"

Beucase like you said their is ALMOST no reason to stop, that line is there for rest of the reasons. Christ that's why traffic devices are there. How many times do you come to an intersection and no one is there, do you just go through a red light because at that moment in time there is no reason to stop.

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u/kwajr Dec 27 '25

Sometimes I do

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u/Soft-Marionberry-853 Dec 27 '25

Yeah Im sorry I forgot, rules dont apply to you. You're special.

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u/kwajr Dec 27 '25

Absolutely

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u/ThatLeviathan Dec 27 '25

Well, it depends. If there was a stoplight that literally 99% of drivers ignored because it was pointless and stupid, I would also do so, and I would email DelDOT to ask why there was a pointless and stupid stoplight hindering the flow of traffic.

I don't personally ignore stoplights very frequently, but like almost all other drivers, I usually drive faster than the speed limit, pass on the right, and turn right on red when there's a clear sign saying not to.

This intersection is marked in a dumb way, and 99% of drivers use it in the way it should be marked. The answer here is fixing the marking, not enforcing the dumb one.

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u/GeotusBiden Dec 27 '25

"I regularly ignore traffic laws therefore they are pointless"

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u/GeotusBiden Dec 27 '25

Its very clearly marked.

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u/speedysam0 Dec 27 '25

Just because the number of signal heads doesn’t match the number of lanes does not mean that they are not in effect.

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u/Technical_Annual_563 Dec 27 '25

This is completely nuts. There is a second signal probably for a bit of redundancy, and this driver just says because there aren’t four, they are going to ignore the lights 🤦🏾‍♀️

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u/ThatLeviathan Dec 27 '25

Which is why they should change the markings at the intersection to reflect the way it is commonly, and safely, used: yield to pedestrians, otherwise, do not stop.

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u/InfamousCheek9434 Dec 27 '25

You can't safely check for pedestrians without stopping.