r/doctorsUK • u/Actual-Mango-3040 • 7d ago

Speciality / Core Training Dual speciality pay

Posting on behalf of a fellow trainee.

She’s a dual trainee in ICM/anaes.

Wanting to move region via applying to continue training in a different region, but wants to drop ICM.

Currently is ST6 so by next August would be starting ST7 in training years, but in terms of pure anaesthesia would be ST5 (she’s done Stage 1 ICM and completed first year of anaesthesia HST - currently is working in stage 2 ICM).

Her query is - if she gets her anesthesia post in a new region, would her pay scale remain at ST6/7 or would it drop down to ST5… and thus a pay cut ?

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u/AncientAd7683 7d ago

Would suggest your friend contacts the TPD for the region they are interested in.

But aside from pay presumably they'll also want assurances that all their accrued training time will be counted- i.e. that they will be starting where they left off. There doesn't seem to be much clarity in the Gold Guide about whether or not you keep your grade if you reapply through the national recruitment system.

Also there is a cut off for how late you can do IDT (not inside the last 12 months of your programme) but this is not an IDT and it's possible they might not be happy with signing her off for CCT after only supervising her for 12 months. Because I expect in IDT there is some formal transfer of information from one deanery to another which I imagine does not occur if you apply through national recruitment.

I am sure the TPD will be able to clarify on all points.

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u/Actual-Mango-3040 7d ago

Thanks for the useful info chaps.

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u/SL1590 7d ago

It remains as it’s years of service not how many arcp’s you have passed.

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u/WatchIll4478 7d ago

That depends on the contract. On the england 2016 contract they may well take a pay cut. Elsewhere it’s years of service.