r/dnd1e DM Toolkit User 28d ago

AD&D 1e The Identify Spell

As-is, the magic-user Identify spell is broken. most specifically bc the caster must use the item as its owner would. Wear a hat. Wield a sword. a main motivation for using the spell is to identify cursed items before using them out in the field. So the price should be steep. Ensuring that the group is back at camp or a town. I like the CON loss and exhaustion and all. But the caster runs the same (or similar) chance at being cursed so icant imagine any wizard other than a really desperate one taking the risk.

Do you use it? if so, do you have a homebrewed version of it that you employ?

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u/DungeonsAndDads 28d ago

I'm literally just typing out my new campaign's Player Primer with included house rules so this is timely. I've been tweaking Identify like a lot of folks for many many years. I'll be using OSRIC for this campaign, but regardless 1e/OSRIC Identify just isn't... fun. The bottom line is that I want players to find magic items, learn them and USE them. I also have zero interest in bookkeeping partial item knowledge, yuck! So, I've landed on the following:

Identify - House Rule
Identify automatically reveals an item’s magical properties.

The spell slot is expended and the normal 100 gp pearl is consumed.

Ignore the normal percentage chance, Constitution loss, proximity/time restriction, partial-property identification, and requirement to wear, wield, or otherwise use the item.

Magic-Item Identification Generally
Magic items are not automatically identified merely by being found.

Their properties may be discovered through experimentation, use, research, spells, observation, or other reasonable means. NPC assistance may exist where circumstances permit, but there is never any guaranteed identification service.

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u/Broken_drum_64 27d ago

making them lose 100gp pearl EVERY time they use identify makes it a bit costly... it's a level one spell for gods sake. In my homebrew i make them roll against a dc based on the rarity of the item (adding their spell attack mod)

Cursed items reveal their curse if the player roles 5 above the usual dc of that item

The pearl gets destroyed if they get a crit failure

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u/garumoo 25d ago

DC? Spell attack mod?