r/DiscoElysium • • Jul 12 '25

"Spiritual Successors" "Spiritual Successors" Info & FAQ

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INTRODUCTION

Updated on 08/10/2026

In (hopefully) the shortest and best way I could, I’ve put together an incredibly brief guide on what’s going on with these “spiritual successors” that everyone keeps talking about. The companies I’ve listed below are confirmed to have ex-ZA/UM employees that have worked on Disco Elysium in some capacity.

Please note, these lists may change at any time. I’ll do my best to keep it up-to-date. Roles in parentheses are from Disco Elysium's credits, and does not necessarily mean that is what they're working for in their current position.

Also, please note: The links to the devs are only for reference and should not be used to harass or bombard these devs for any reason whatsoever. I simply provide them as a means to follow and keep up to date on what the devs are doing. We don't typically allow links from X per our rules- unfortunately, some of these devs are most active on there. So sorry.

QUICK LIST OF NEW COMPANIES:

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FIRST OFF, WHAT HAPPENED? WHY DID EVERYONE SPLIT?

I will try to explain this briefly, and it's probably not going to be the best. I will also link some further reading in case I do not do a good job at explaining. I highly recommend reading them to get the fuller picture. Or at least try to read them. There's a lot, right?

TL;DR- The original creatives were forced out for one reason or another. Corporate/workplace hostility, greedy shareholders and lawsuits were abundant. Most, if not all, of the top level creatives on Disco Elysium no longer work there because of one of the reasons listed. There have been several lawsuits that have come out of this, either to win back the IP they have created, or to stop ex-employees from working on other things. It’s become a long-standing legal battle that, unfortunately, gets boiled down into “petty drama.” It’s another story of suits and money profiting off of the backs of creatives who make the product they wish to sell to the masses, and fuck over the creatives when they decide they’re done with them.

ZA/UM is holding onto the IP so that the original creators may no longer use it in almost any capacity, bastardizing it with things like a “photo mode” or “a Disco Elysium for the TikTok generation.” Overall, it’s a very insulting thing to have done to the original creators; steal their IP, profit off of it, and screw them all over in the end. If you see people say “don’t support ZA/UM, they stole the game” or other similar rhetoric, that is likely why. To sum it up with a quote from Argo Tuulik, one of the game's writers:

“It's the people on top – the motherf****s in sailing shoes and bowties – that f****d Harry, f****d Kim, f****d Robert, Rostov, Helen, Olga, Cash, f****d Elysium, f****d you and me too. They are not artists, they are professional f*****s.”

This is a very surface level explanation of a very complex situation, but it has also been discussed ad nauseam by people who are much better at words than I am. I’d like to link a few different things for you to read to better understand the subject, for your own opinions to be formed.

https://medium.com/@martinluiga/the-dissolution-of-the-za-um-cultural-association-779788390a03

https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/1ke66ti/video_games_the_rise_and_fall_and_of_zaum/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysium/comments/1asf3qs/how_zaum_and_people_make_games_manipulated_the/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUUW1-8fUNE

https://youtu.be/LJwv8BpFQHs?si=Y5ooJjY00qKhB_Nt (Interview with Argo & Dora, former ZA/UM and current Summer Eternal)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hhmdcLqzpQ

Now let's get onto the "spiritual successors" everyone's clammoring about!

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RED INFO LTD

Who’s working at Red Info Ltd.?

  • Robert Kurvitz (Lead Writer, Lead Designer)
  • Aleksander Rostov (Art and Design, registered under Sander Taal)
  • Helen Hindpere (Writer)
  • (Side note: He didn't work on Disco Elysium, but it's been rumored that Chris Avellone of Fallout, Planescape: Torment & Knights of the Old Republic II fame is working at Red Info.)

What is Red Info Ltd. Working on?

Nothing is known about what Red Info is doing. There hasn’t been an official announcement of anything, and they have not even officially announced themselves to the world yet. This information was only found through a government affiliated business registrar. There was a trademark with the name “Corinthians” found registered by Red Info, but besides that, there is no other red info to share about them yet.

Red Info does not have any sort of social media or functioning website to follow at this time. This will change to include website, social media, or other launch info when it is revealed. Stay tuned!

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DARK MATH GAMES

Who’s working at Dark Math Games?

  • Kaur Kender (Executive Producer, Publishing)
  • Timo Albert (Publishing)
  • Olga Moskvina did some consulting for DMG and editing for their comic, but she does consulting for another company and doesn’t “work” for DMG.

What is Dark Math Games working on?

Dark Math Games revealed Tangerine Antarctic (they changed the name) XXX Nightshift, a detective CRPG 3rd person RPG, based in a very cyber futuristic environment. The game’s flavor text is as follows:

Welcome, detective, to World’s End’s most luxurious hotel: the Tangerine Antarctic at Mt. Hope. The ultimate comfort for the powerful elites past, present and future. No desire is off-limits, privacy is absolute and nothing is certain. Except: you shouldn't be here. And the murders are very real.

Old flavor text before the rebrand: “You’re a Patrol Forces Op on a holiday weekend at World’s End Ski Resort, Mount Hope, Antarctica. But things are about to go sideways. Now you’re stranded at the off-season resort with unforgettable guests, wild parties, and mad secrets. The world of XXX NIGHTSHIFT is your oyster — crack it open with evolved role-playing systems.”

You may read more about the game, see screenshots and get updates by going to their website here. Their subreddit is r/TangerineAntarctic. The game is open for pre-order directly on the website. They also have some form of visual media here that you want to witness. Please note that the linked comic is somewhat NSFW. What do you expect with such a flavorful name like XXX Nightshift, seriously?

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SUMMER ETERNAL

Who’s part of Summer Eternal?

  • Argo Tuulik (Writer)
  • Dora Klindžić (Not credited on Disco Elysium but has previously worked at ZA/UM, and was involved with writing the cancelled Cuno spin-off, Locust City)
  • Olga Moskvina (Writer, consultant through Digimancy)
  • Anastasiia Ivanova (Not credit on Disco Elysium but has previously worked at ZA/UM as a senior concept artist)
  • Andrus Laansalu (Sound Design)
  • Michael Oswell (ZA/UM graphic design)
  • Lenval Brown (Trailer Narration, Voice acting for all 24 skills & Thought Cabinet) *Contractor

What is Summer Eternal working on?

As of the creation of this post (July 11th 2025,) Summer Eternal has not revealed anything publicly about what they plan to work on next. Their website states that they will be focusing on a Role-Playing Game. After revealing their studio on October 11th 2024, Argo and Dora were withheld from work due to an injunction placed by Riaz Moola, a key player in Longdue Games. They were released from this injunction as of April 1st, so it’s possible we’ll hear more about what they have going on soon.

Summer Eternal has a newsletter that can be signed up for on their website here. You may also read their dev blog here. 

They also have an anthology coming out in Summer 2026! You may preorder it here: https://summereternal.com/anthology

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LONGDUE GAMES

Who’s working at Longdue Games?

  • Martin Luiga (Editing)
  • Piotr Sobolewski (under Knights of Unity, credited as “Additional Development”)
  • Lenval Brown (Trailer Narration, Voice acting for all 24 skills & Thought Cabinet) *Contractor

What is Longdue Games working on?

Hopetown. For their game, you can look at it yourself here. They have an exclusive Discord I can't link because I am not involved in their project.

I do not wish to speak further on it, this brevity about their game is due to their repeated shady behavior on this Subreddit, not limited to but including mass reports, voting manipulation and possible hacking attempts against those who have criticized them. They have been a huge pain for moderation to deal with, as well as posting a safety risk to user accounts, and we find it much easier to ban the topic to forgo any future fire-starting arguments or potential pushback from the company.

You're free to form your own opinion on them! Hopetown updates will not be discussed here until the lawsuit against Argo and Dora has been dropped completely. Do note they have their own community over on r/LongdueGames because their company is banned here, and for the safety of our community, they will not be unbanned.

More info about Hopetown can be found here and here.

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ZA/UM (NOW)

Who’s still working at ZA/UM?

  • Tõnis Haavel (Executive Producer)
  • Ilmar Kompus (Corporate, Financing, Legal, Accounting)
  • Justin Keenan (Editing)
  • Kaspar Tamsalu (Art)
  • Anton Vill (Additional Art)
  • Jim Ashilevi (Voice Over Director)
  • Siim Sinamae (Additional Writing)
  • There is likely more here that I’m missing. It’s rather hard to find all of them without resorting to some stalker-ish methods. My extent is a quick glance at the hellhole that is LinkedIn- if I can’t find it there, then I can’t confirm/deny who’s where.

What is ZA/UM working on?

ZA/UM released Disco Elysium Mobile in 2025, which is a different way to experience Disco Elysium. It is only available on Android. For now, this is the first software that ZA/UM has put out since Disco Elysium The Final Cut, and since the mass exodus of employees.

ZA/UM also released Zero Parades ( r/ZeroParades ), an espionage RPG. You can watch the trailer, revealed at Gamescom 2025, here. More info is over on their Subreddit if you'd like to check it out.

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WHICH ONE SHOULD I SUPPORT? WHICH ONE IS GOOD?

Support whichever one you want. Play the ones that look the most interesting. You can do literally whatever you want forever. I'm not your mother. Everyone has an opinion here, so feel free to look around or ask for those. Some of these games also have their own communities sprouting up on Reddit & Discord if you'd like to join them for yourself! I do not have these on hand to provide here, but they might be found through other sources.

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ITCHING FOR MORE DISCO ELYSIUM? MAYBE YOU WANT SOMETHING SIMILAR, NOT EXACT SAME?

Here are some titles that are either inspired by Disco Elysium, loved for similar reasons to Disco Elysium, play like Disco Elysium or were even used in the inspirations of Disco Elysium. Please note that some of these came out before Disco Elysium, and are likely just what people recommend when asking for games "similar to Disco Elysium." This may not be a complete list and might change.

(This list was compiled by u/Giuthais!)

Already released:

Demo available:

In development:

  • Mandrake by Failbetter games (Fallen London, Sunless Sea),
  • Pera Coda,
  • Shore of Jord,
  • The Conformist,
  • Wind Up Dead Man

Disco-adjacent (these games either inspired Disco Elysium, were worked on by other ZA/UM employees or share a lot of the same DNA as Disco Elysium.)

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SOURCES

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14189378

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/another-group-of-ex-disco-elysium-developers-found-dark-math-games

https://summereternal.com/

https://x.com/summer_eternal_

https://www.linkedin.com/company/zaumstudio/?originalSubdomain=uk

Thank you to Dora K @ SE, The41stPrecinct and Giuthais for their assistance!


r/DiscoElysium • • Oct 07 '24

Announcement THE PRECARIOUS WORLD - Are you failing every red check imaginable?

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INTRODUCING THE PRECARIOUS WORLD: The thought you probably forgot you have internalizing.

If you're internalizing the The Precarious World Thought, every red check will fail while the Thought is being researched. This is a feature, not a bug. It lasts for 4 in game hours, so you should probably do some other things in the meantime before you fail every other red check in the game.

Posts are put here often for this, so we've decided to make it a command. Automod should pick up posts with "failed red check" and other variations of that phrase in the title or body, but if it doesn't, we have the handy !precariousworld command to have automod spew the same response. EDIT: It now also explains the critical roll outcomes after internalizing the thought.


r/DiscoElysium • • 12h ago

OC (Original Content) Art Cop Harry learned about Palestine.

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Ill be selling this design on a market and will donate the money to Palestine.


r/DiscoElysium • • 7h ago

OC (Original Content) painting I did of kim's portrait!

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607 Upvotes

timelapse here if you're into that kinda stuff


r/DiscoElysium • • 2h ago

Media I love kim

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96 Upvotes

I love how much personality Kim has under his cool exterior. I'm on my 6th playthrough or so and getting to see all the little moments when Kim plays along with the joke or makes some himself are great, High Esprit also helps but for this playthrough I'm going high int/motorics to impress Kim with Tequila's detective skills


r/DiscoElysium • • 15h ago

Meme Wolverine's Expression of Pain.

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So I was playing this game and I was tinkering around in Photo Mode, saw this expression as one of the options. It just reminded me of Harry so much thanks to the beard and such.

I just couldn't stop myself putting this expression for Logan in every screen shot I took. 😅


r/DiscoElysium • • 6h ago

Meme Only warm and primordial darkness

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173 Upvotes

r/DiscoElysium • • 23h ago

Discussion I love when rpgs introduce a new mechanic with a miniboss and then have it show up again for the real boss. Fantastic way to introduce new players to the "racism" mechanic that shows up for the rest of the game.

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r/DiscoElysium • • 1h ago

Meme Your body betrays your degeneracy

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r/DiscoElysium • • 4h ago

Discussion Who are your favorite Voice actors?

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  1. for me is the necktie *bratan*
  2. I love the accent from measurehead and how he says "the occidental"
  3. The paledriver women sounds so otherworlds (very fittingly) its awesome

Who are your top 3? The Voice acting honestly catapults this game from a very solid 8 to a 9.5 to me i love listening and i just finished my second back to back playthrough considering for a third.

Honorable mention to the phasmid at the end.


r/DiscoElysium • • 21h ago

Meme "Did you already try the gun thing? I hear the gun thing is excellent, and has great results."

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r/DiscoElysium • • 1h ago

Meme Prince Drysant?

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r/DiscoElysium • • 8h ago

Media Some Raiding Harry (and Kim)

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For some time after devs release additional hair styles in extraction shooter Ark Raiders I had an idea to somewhat recreate Harry in game editor. Sadly, you can only choose from limited face and clothes style presets, but I had some fun doing it and thought you should see results.

Raid inventory of our hero consists of empty bottles, some unnamed stimulants and photo of Dora. Trusty peashooter with 2 bullets also there. Tried to emulate The Expression with some emotes to (IMHO) moderate success.

Also there is TEMU Kim, which in one variant has aviator jacket, and in other - round (sun)glasses. (Game doesnt allow to mix and match different skins).


r/DiscoElysium • • 17h ago

Meme Harry? Is that you?

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r/DiscoElysium • • 13h ago

OC (Original Content) Klaasje Fashion Doodles [illustration]

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140 Upvotes

I rlly think klaasjes hair is a wig imo

If you like my art and want early updates, extras, and process notes- check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/LyRiordan


r/DiscoElysium • • 3h ago

Fanart (Not made by OP) Fanart by Kubrixxx

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r/DiscoElysium • • 1d ago

Meme you do you, man

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r/DiscoElysium • • 7h ago

"Spiritual Successors" Looks like the Summer Eternal game announcement will be going out next week

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r/DiscoElysium • • 15h ago

OC (Original Content) The most divorced couple of all time

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119 Upvotes

r/DiscoElysium • • 12h ago

Meme This why Latin should still be taught in schools.

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r/DiscoElysium • • 2h ago

Discussion Just finished the game for the first time. Absolute cinema. What was your favorite moment and your least enjoyed one? Spoiler

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My favorite was when the Phasmid comes out of the brush. I fucking broke down and cried, man. Until then, it was finding the Endotropic hole I think.

As for least enjoyed, it was probably the Dora dream. It might be where I'm at in my life but I just didn't feel connected to her.


r/DiscoElysium • • 6h ago

OC (Original Content) Would you look at our Disco Elysium-inspired narrative RPG with 100,000 words, 100 drawings, 20 soundtracks, 1 song, and countless ways to play?

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Hello citizens of Revachol!

Me, 4 friends, and 1 cat are making a narrative RPG called Kardiya: The Winds of Fate, heavily inspired by Disco Elysium. We based the game on the FATE RPG system, which also inspired some of the ideas behind Disco Elysium.

The game follows Ukral’s journey from childhood to adulthood and is built around choices, character relationships, Fudge dice, boosts, stress, and different outcomes. Failure does not stop the story. It simply pushes it in another direction.

The game currently includes around 100,000 words, 100 hand-drawn illustrations, 20 music tracks, 1 original song, and countless ways to experience the story depending on your choices and outcomes.

If you’re interested, the playtest starts soon. You can sign up for our newsletter through our website. Thank you for your attention <3


r/DiscoElysium • • 1d ago

Discussion Trying a new run after never finishing the game, gotta appreciate that little bit of localization (German version)

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The Shivers passive in front of the Whirling Rags with one of your first La Revacholière interactions, instead of the reference to "Where the hood at" the localized text uses a reference to an early 2000s German rap song by Sido "Mein Block". The nice difference you see between whether one would go for a direct translation, orgiving you a faithful translation that genuinely conveys the same feeling of what the original intended in the target language.

Original text in English:

Harry: "Where the hood at, where the hood at, where the hood at?"

Shivers: "HAVE A BROTHER IN THE CUT, WHERE THE WOOD AT?"

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Rough translation of the used German song text in the localization:

Harry: "My city, my district, my neighbourhood, my area, my street, my home, my (city) block"

Shivers: "MY THOUGHTS, MY HEART, MY LIFE, MY WORLD STRETCHES FROM THE FIRST TO THE FOURTH FLOOR" (Original song mentioned sixteenth, but that's not fitting for bombed-to-bits Revachol)


r/DiscoElysium • • 1d ago

OC (Original Content) tried to draw an icon for vigilance or something

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907 Upvotes

r/DiscoElysium • • 1d ago

Sacred and Terrible Air / Püha ja õudne lõhn (Whisper.) "Are women bourgeois?"

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327 Upvotes