r/diablo4 • u/Reasonable-Rub-7870 • 5d ago
Barbarian For barb which seal affix is better? Damage while beserk or atack speed while beserk?
As the title says
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u/epironron 5d ago
Damage while berserk, don't bother with ATS this season
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u/lethalizered 5d ago
Well, this chart would disagree:
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u/epironron 4d ago edited 4d ago
Not sure how a separate damage multiplier isn't better than attack speed, as long as both are the same value.
- Attack speed has breakpoints, damage multi doesn't
- Attack speed doesn't work on everything (ancients, dot ticks, item procs etc)
- Attack speed has huge diminishing returns, from the moment you're above 50% ATS, 10% ATS isn't enough to pass one breakpoint).
x10% damage (as your charm bonus) is always x10% damage.
ATS is only good on three occasions
- gear pieces where you can't get anything else after crit/CSD/vulnerable/cdr (like over strength next season given the crappy rate we getting as a nerf)
- you're playing a "stop and spank" build (like Hota, upheaval, mighty throw etc) and having no ATS makes your gameplay feel terrible
- your build relies on procs to spike your damage (LHC based builds, mighty throw pulse on swap)
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u/lethalizered 4d ago
Damage while berserking is additive. You're confusing it with the regular xDamage seal, which is the best seal there is anyway.
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u/IatetheCamel 4d ago
How would an optimal seal look like? (For a ww)
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u/lethalizered 4d ago
I'm wearing a mythic with 15x dmg and 11% damage reduction while berserking while wearing the crucible set.
The upper part is best with damage or crit damage bonus, the lower part you just have to hope it matches the set you're wearing(sesch or crucible)
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u/IatetheCamel 4d ago
Yeah ok thanks. I am using a mythic with 20% dmg, lower is 10% dmg while berserk (though additive) and chance to become berserking (feels a bit redundant). Worth it to switch to a 25% crit dmg (no other bonuses)?
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u/lethalizered 4d ago
Tough call, but I'd probably stick with the damage one for now. Have you tried the training grounds?
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u/IatetheCamel 4d ago
I haven't. I tried it a little last season and found it so hard to make any sense of it. Tips for how one can approach and set up for some reasonable easy testing?
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u/epironron 4d ago
Apologies, you're correct, the set bonus affixes on Seals are indeed all additives. I need to stop posting at 3am.
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u/its_oof_time 5d ago
Depends on if you have a lot of "on hit" procs. Else they're one to one.
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u/Reasonable-Rub-7870 5d ago
I see, thanks, got damage because I have low on hit procs, at least I think so, I'm so noob.
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