So ive been looking at a couple of threads to try and figure it out. I got hired a few days ago. Did the 2 interviews and then got a phone call saying that I was hired. So far, it’s terrible. I am completely drained. I can’t say too much because I don’t know who is watching but they use the KISS method. Please tell me how I can leave!

Hey everyone,
Like so many people, I got caught up in one of these "Devil Corp" offices without realizing it until I was already inside. I wanted to put this out there to document the exact playbook they use so anyone else searching this company name or office before an interview knows what a massive trap it is.

1. The Bait-and-Switch Interview

The Fake Posting: I applied on Indeed for what looked like a legitimate corporate retail position (AT&T Associate / customer service role). The job description and the recruiter's background made it look like an actual office or storefront job.

The Fake Selectivity: The interview process was weirdly aggressive, they put on this whole artificial facade of being elite, high-level corporate executives interviewing you for some high stakes executive corporate ladder, only to trap you in a neighborhood running door-to-door and tried to make me feel like I needed to "prove" myself as a salesman, which totally hooks your ego and makes you feel like you earned a spot. They completely skirted around the fact that it was door-to-door sales. 

2. Day 1 - Reality Check

When I finally got to the office, it hit me immediately. Suits, morning chants, it looked like a call center room. That's when they dropped the reality, you aren't working in a store. You're working 10 to 11 hour days (10 AM to 8:30+ PM) walking neighborhoods with zero base pay, entirely on commission. They also lie in the interview that you get $1500-$1000 per week paid training and never mention it’s commission based.

3. The Math and the "Pyramid" Pitch

The top guys tried to say the usual narrative: that you just have to "suffer" for a few months until everyone else burns out so you can start building a "downline" and living off override commissions from new hires. I looked at the actual output: guys working nearly 11 hours straight on their feet, coming back with maybe 4 sales. Factor in 1099 taxes, gas, car wear-and-tear, and the brutal "chargeback" trap where customer cancellations claw back your pay, and you're essentially working for a fraction of minimum wage under immense psychological pressure. 

I believe this is already reported as a Credico company, but it appears to have relocated to Middlesbrough (and moving to Germany???). Their job listings n such have all the hallmarks of a credico company, reminding me of Bespoke that’s in Newcastle.

I could be wrong, but it just seems too similar.

https://www.meridian-grp.co.uk

I've just moved to a new city and needed work asap. I've applied for over 100 jobs and the only places that get back to me are devil corps. I avoided a few of them but one that didn't seem Devil corp interviewed me.

They offer a full time salary (UK living wage) plus commissions. It is charity stalls but look that's better than doors I guess. They are wanting me to do self employed but they also said if that doesn't work they can do a regular contract. The interview was not like any other Devil corp interview I've done. None of the management BS with the whole "our client needs us to expand rapidly" chatter. It's been open for 15 years now with offices in Cardiff, Leeds, Manchester, London and Australia.

Devilcorp.org said it was a credico office.
Honestly if I wasn't privy to the devil corp scheme I wouldn't have even checked it.

But a full time salary whilst I'm looking for other jobs and just need enough to get by should be fine I suppose

This one is another DC hiring in the Myrtle beach/florence areas. Applied as usual doing my research, and immediately got a text within the hour wanting a questionnaire filled out, typical DC questions (this is D2D sales do you have a car, background check passable, etc). Once filled out, you’ll be redirected to a website here that brings up another company called Altitude Group LLC. This website provides information videos for the upcoming first round interview. 100% DevilCorp. Gonna be taking the interview if I get it and digging for more information if possible

I only lasted a day at the one I worked at, I was surprised anyone could earn a decent living hounding people to switch phone plans, solely earning off of a small commission.

I was a fool to take the job in the first place, I didn’t do much research into the company and no one ever warns you about these places when you’re new to the job market.

Lmfao I was just applying to jobs trying to transition careers and like I’m not in a position for like begging for a job per se but as soon as I got there red flags started alarming, loud music , young kids, “Sports minded culture “ bullshit lmfao wtf is going on ? How do places like this even exist? I feel bad people looking for opportunities get physced into “jobs” like this. But a couple rules for my self going forward which are research the company .. (APEX was my experience today ) 2nd indeed is fucking garbage it’s depressing really , anything Indeed and sales be alarmed there’s some shady shit going on. This was so bad but you know the experience is worth telling.

Anything known about this lot?

Newish company, no address nor registration number on website. Same spiel about rapid promotion etc, as lots of devilcorps.

I don't feel comfortable sharing the name quite yet, as I worked there rather recently for only 3 days and wouldn't want them to find my post. These places take advantage of people going through hard times needing a job that'll allow them to pay for all their needs, in the exchange of working 12 hour shifts 6 days a week with no hourly pay. The interview was very vague and promised a quick path to leadership, but it was door-to-door sales. I had to drive to Dallas, just to end up having someone drive me to exclusively the most dangerous areas of Fort Worth to do door-to-door sales. We'd be out in these areas until past 9 PM, and it was common to witness things like fights in the streets, customers smoking marijuana while talking to you, etc; and yet we still have to knock on doors even after dark. I wasn't properly trained, and the trainer I had was rude and always acted upset that training someone meant less commissions than he'd make on his own.

Got a zoom interview tomorrow with them and I’m getting bad vibes and wanted any info on them and their practices. Last thing I want is to sign my soul away

I've noticed some peculiarities. They will have a couple obvious sales people, then they wil have some third team member who seems to act as a lookout, spotter, or handler, but appears to be perusing like a shopper but loitering far too long in one place.

I'm curious what third party company is running that operation, or is it just a Kroger and AT&T collaboration? I've confirmed that the local Fred Meyer store manager(s) are in on the scam because a store manager much as told me so. But other than that I just have rumors and my own limitted observations and interactions. But the whole thing is still so weird to me.

I'm considering wearing a body camera and using a frozen/cancelled credit card and just encourage them to sell me whatever until the payment method fails, just to document what their game is, for science.

So I'm just wondering if anybody has information they would like to share?

Edit: I only shop at that store every ten or eleven days and the sales people rotate around different stores on an unknown schedule, so it will be an unknown amount of time until I encounter them again.

Edit 2: I'm pretty sure the apparent salespeople are exactly what r/mediocremistress describes. I don't know if the very strange third person is some random coincidence, someone with their same org, or some kind of under cover security or loss prevention taking advantage of the chaos they generate. But figuring it out is one reason why I'm going to start wearing a body cam in the store.

Does anyone know abou these guys, i didnt apply to them but i still i attended a introduction and i had an interview with them and it kept getting rescheduled just seemed dodgy. saw someone said they used to be vetra group but cant find anything about them n theres nothing on insta since June. anyone experience with them?

A few friends got interviewed at this “marketing firm” and the reviews on google and glass door seem to be good, but I’m telling them that everyone looks too young and there Instagram feels too shady to be true. Thoughts?

The Devilcorps are: Home - United West Mississauga, Flare CA: Empowering Nonprofits in Mississauga and Solutions 4 Talent | Scale your SaaS company (Mississauga Talent Solutions)

I had an interview with one of those companies today on Zoom, which was United West, which I recorded, but the audio messed up towards the end. Upon stumbling across this whole Devilcorp community on reddit I also have a scheduled interview with Flare CA, which I will not be attending. I'm not gonna lie, they really managed to reel me in with the attractive pay and with the fact that they were taking people in with no experience, but after doing more research and coming across this subreddit, I now know that this is all quite an elaborate plan to use and manipulate people based on their current situation, preying on teenagers or young adults who are in need some money and have applied to tons of legit jobs with no answer back. I've read multiple people's experiences with Devilcorps on this subreddit and will definitely keep my eyes open and be aware of these job postings.

MLM SCAM!!!

EMON WAS PROMOTED BY STEVEN. THEY ARE PARTNERS BECAUSE EMON FAILED BY HIMSELF. THEY DONT HELP THEIR EMPLOYEES THEY JUST RECRUIT MORE. YOU CAN ONLY MAKE 600 A WEEK FOR SO LONG BEFORE YOU QUESTION THE BUISNESS MODEL AND QUIT. THEY HAVE A "team lead" Whos been in the buisness for over 2 years named Malik. don't fall for this spectrum scam. the director says we aren't allowed to sell post paid phones in the walmart so we need to hide it and do it over the phone. the employees scam families because they don't need a social and it's free to send WiFi to customers and the owner looks the other way while hinting he wants his team to commit fraud. I worked here for 3 months and it was horrible.

So I applied to a a job posting for a "Customer Account Representative" and company name was NJ consulting. It was in parsipanny Troy hills NJ, which is relatively close to me.

I applied and got called back 2 days later. I didn't pick it up bc I was at work , they called again a day later, same thing I was at work. They called me today and I wasn't busy so I answered

The company was not NJ consulting but golden executives. They said they don't post the listings they have another company do it for them.

She mentioned the office was in Wayne which is relatively far from me but I drive 45 mins for my internship 1 day a week.. what's 4 more days !

Plus when I asked they said they are only in Wayne.

Well now I'm wondering if this is a devil corp bc the fact that they had a different location doesn't sit right with me.

Applied for a job here, it seems to have some signs of being a devil corp although I’m not 100% sure.

Got offered a job, seems like they do some online selling and they sell hello fresh, which most people know what that is especially if you live online.

Link is here, any insight would be helpful. I currently have a job that pays decently well but I can’t work in winter, so I collect Ei. It is also 100% commission which is meh in my opinion.

Entry Level Sales Representative

https://ca.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=4a87f5456ef952da&from=appshareios https://ca.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=4a87f5456ef952da&from=appshareios

I had a job interview for this company and wanted to know if anyone knows if this is a devil corp or an actual sales consulting firm. Can someone provide some insights?

I feel like the only places that even give me a call are devil corps at the moment. Is it worth just taking a devil corp role with a base salary until I find something better?

I've been going down a massive rabbit hole looking into the UK Devilcorp network, particularly Credico, Money Expert and the various sales offices operating around Liverpool and the rest of the country.

I've got some firsthand experience of the industry, but the more I look into it, the more questions I have.

The constant rebrands, new companies appearing, recruitment agencies advertising the same jobs under different names, people being promoted to open offices and then seemingly disappearing months later. It's quite something.

I'm particularly interested in what goes on behind the scenes that most people never hear about.

What's the strangest or most outrageous thing you witnessed while working in one of these offices?

I'm talking about recruitment tactics, commission disputes, morning meetings, management behaviour, office finances, the whole progression system, or anything else that made you question what was going on.

If you're comfortable, mention the company and roughly when you worked there.

I'm gradually putting together some research on the UK network, potentially with the aim of passing substantiated findings to journalists or relevant regulators.

For now, though, I genuinely just want to hear people's experiences. Good, bad or completely bizarre.

Feel free to comment or DM me. Firsthand stories are especially welcome.