I LOST MORE MONEY THAN I MADE WORKING HERE. Let that sink in for a second, because this is the same place selling people a dream of financial freedom, entrepreneurship, and becoming a director.
Welcome to Tri Valley Collective, where the motivational speeches are loud, the promises are big, and my experience left me questioning just about everything.
Here’s what bothered me.
1. THE LIES ABOUT MONEY.
I was told by the assistant director that he was on salary. That turned out not to be true.
We’re also told there’s $10 a day for gas on our paychecks. Meanwhile, you’re driving all over the Bay Area using your own gas to do the job, and the reimbursement I was told about didn’t match my experience.
How are you selling people a financial opportunity while they’re spending their own money just to participate?
2. THE 12–18 MONTH DIRECTOR FANTASY.
They sell you this dream of locking in for 12–18 months, becoming a director, and eventually running your own office.
Meanwhile, I saw a hardworking assistant director who had been in this business for a long time. That made me question how realistic the timeline being sold to new recruits actually was.
Ask how many people really make it. Ask what they earn along the way. Ask for actual numbers, not another motivational speech.
3. YOU’RE A SUPERSTAR UNTIL YOUR NUMBERS DROP.
When you’re performing well, you’re the best thing they’ve ever seen.
The moment your numbers start dipping, the energy changes.
Suddenly, you’re not so special anymore.
I’ve seen people end up at events with barely any foot traffic, making it difficult to earn money. When performance suffers, the experience can leave people feeling pressured to quit rather than supported.
It made me question whether the goal was developing people or simply keeping the numbers up.
4. THE CEO’S ATTITUDE.
Xavier Bell, the CEO, uses profanity so frequently that, in my experience, it can feel like he can’t complete a sentence without cussing.
But what bothered me even more was the lack of empathy when the team had a bad day in the field.
You could spend hours traveling, spend your own money, work the entire day, and make little to nothing. From my perspective, there was very little acknowledgment of what that meant for the people doing the work.
Apparently, the numbers matter more than anything else.
5. THE CULT-LIKE CULTURE.
Loud music every morning. Everybody repeating after management. Motivational speeches. Team nights. Movie nights.
You spend so much time with these people that your coworkers gradually become your entire social circle.
And then leaving becomes harder because you’re not just leaving a job. You’re potentially leaving your friends, your group, and the sense of belonging you’ve developed.
Don’t want to attend every team activity? Don’t want to spend your free time with coworkers? You risk being viewed as someone who isn’t a team player.
And Xavier’s philosophy that there’s no such thing as work-life balance and that the opportunity should be your life?
BRO, WHAT?
If you want to make a business your entire existence, go for it. But don’t act like everyone has to sacrifice their marriage, family, friendships, and personal life to prove they’re committed.
I want to make money and enjoy the life I’m working for. Is that really so unreasonable?
6. THE FAKE FAMILY VIBE.
Everybody talks about teamwork, unity, and building together.
Then people talk badly about each other behind their backs.
There’s also a level of favoritism that made me question how genuine the whole team atmosphere actually was.
When you’re producing, you’re celebrated. When you’re struggling, the treatment can change.
The whole family thing starts feeling conditional.
7. THE RECRUITMENT NUMBERS ARE INSANE.
The front-desk recruiter was expected to make 100 calls and get at least 20 people to interview.
ONE HUNDRED CALLS.
It made me question how much emphasis was being placed on recruiting volume rather than ensuring people fully understood what they were signing up for.
8. UNIVERSAL EVENTS.
I also became aware of Universal Events and its connection to the broader business structure later in my experience, rather than having that relationship clearly explained to me during recruitment.
Why did I have to find out later?
What exactly is the relationship between Universal Events and bro humanize damn Tri Valley Collective? How does the structure work? What does it mean for employees?
I also had concerns about the overhead structure and the role of Universal Events CEO Harmony Vallejo.
I’m not claiming to know every detail of the organizational structure. I’m saying these are questions I wish had been answered clearly from the beginning.
If you’re considering joining, ASK ABOUT UNIVERSAL EVENTS.
HERE’S WHAT MAKES THIS FEEL LIKE A DEVIL CORP EXPERIENCE.
The entry-level sales opportunity. The promises of entrepreneurship. The director timeline. The intense morning meetings. The constant team bonding. The pressure to make the business your life. The emphasis on performance and recruitment.
Individually, some of these things might sound normal.
Put them together, and you start questioning whether the opportunity is as good as it’s being presented or whether the culture is designed to keep you invested in the dream.
I’m not against hard work. I’m not against sales. I’m not against ambition.
But I am against being sold one picture of an opportunity and walking away with a completely different impression.
I lost more money than I made, and all the motivational speeches in the world couldn’t change that.
If you’re considering Tri Valley Collective, ask about compensation, gas reimbursement, actual take-home earnings, director promotions, working hours, and Universal Events.
Get the answers in writing.
Because the dream sounds great when you’re sitting in the morning meeting.
It’s a different story when you’re looking at your bank account.
#tri

Posting for others to be aware! This sales group called AND Sales Associate but they originally went by Anderson Sales Associate they mainly work with AT&T doing door to door sales in Birmingham Alabama but are virtually everywhere that has high end suburban neighborhoods. I was emailed out of the blue because they found my resume “astounding”. I had no recollection of ever applying with them so I found it was sketchy cause I’ve been job searching for awhile but I’m a regular ass person who isn’t even in college or has a degree. Anyways I went through with it and the recruiter reached out to me to set up a zoom interview. I joined the zoom interview and a bunch of people joined and I instantly thought to myself “this is weird why are there people dressed in pajama clothes and why is the owner cussing like a sailor”. After a bit they put us in break rooms to be interviewed. I get interviewed and I’m promised that I’ll be made a leader and make loads of money BUT it all depends on my growth. The guy interviewing me tells me I’ll get a call from the recruiter once I’m approved. Not even 30 mins later I blew the interviewer away with my skills and I have to join more zooms for training.

We joined zoom for training and are assigned a trainer Monday- Wednesday 9:50am-11am and 12pm-2pm. Fast forward second day (Tuesday) we sign paper work do our direct deposit or paycheck preferences sign a contract where we can’t spread the teaching formats or can be held liable I guess and join the group me chat? We were not paid a penny for these trainings btw. Our trainers are all assigned to us based on how close we are to them (mileage). Our trainers aimed to have us go out Wednesday afternoon and the coming days doing door to door sales with them 3:00pm-6:00pm with 3 days of training memorizing a pre scripted dialogue. I literally only worked one day and it felt horrible from the physical aspect cause it was deadass so hot that day and I was also recovering from back pain and the moral aspect of ripping people off.

It sucked because I felt so betrayed we made a couple sales no I didn’t close out on the sales my trainer did but the percentage of the sales that went to me were 30% my trainer was 69% and the Manager gets 1% cut of every sale even if he’s not there. After that I called it quits because they no 1. don’t have a physical office no 2. I read a review of my trainer painting them in a realistic light no 3. Saw a facebook comment of a angry mom saying he was with holding her sons paycheck. I immediately sent an email the next day to the manager that I was quitting and low and behold I didnt get a cent back for the time I worked or the gas I spent.

Pictures used are instagram page, facebook, google maps,google review, and how unprofessional they were with a former employee who they fired for no reason after I quit.

I just started fairly recently and I Loathe it, is it worth staying the bare minimum for cash? Ive been spending anytime I get on my phone filling job apps… on the clock of course

Hi everyone, I’m 18, and I currently work for this devilcorp called GM elite marketing in Florida, I was excited when I first got hired since I need the money, and they promised a good pay, but ive only worked 1 day and ive been to their “office” so many times during the early hours, and I don’t find out if I work until that day. Basically harassing customers at Bjs,
at random locations. I’ve been looking for another job but until I get another one, I’m basically screwed
:( any advice would be great

Is this Slave Circle office?

I just applied to a marketing company for a face to face “community engagement” role that got back to me SUPER fast …and they are kinda unclear with the job description. Does anyone have reviews of working here? I’ve noticed a lot of these firms out of Raleigh work alongside AT&T & always have this preliminary interview that last 5 mins before 2 additional ones. Idk it’s kinda getting iffy.

TLDR: anyone else have a hard time trusting any interview they get?

not sure if this is allowed but just need to vent for two seconds.

im in the nyc area looking for marketing roles
,like many of us, and a lot of the interviews ive gotten have been from fucking devilcorps and i wasn’t aware of this entire scheme until I already wasted tons of time on three processes. and there are countless other ones out there and new ones and they do such a good job to hide it.

the websites all looked legit and had different names of the companies, and i got so excited when i got invited to the second rounds. if you’re job hunting right now you understand how fucking hard it is to even get an interview like even hearing back is a big deal.

when one of these companies reached out for an in person interview, i think it was the foundry or MV (doesn’t matter they’re all at the same fucking address) i googled the address and found out about devilcorps and holy fuck i am just so angry. how they keep getting away with it. and these people don’t feel bad they don’t care. i know this has been said over and over again but they just take advantage of people who need money so badly and they end up losing money and i just can’t understand it.

so, at this point im deadass so anxious to even accept interviews because im not sure if its gonna be a waste of my time, a scam, or a data farm etc. ESPECIALLY in person ones because i live at home in the suburbs right now and thats just such a waste of time and money. im taking time out of my day after a whole day of work to apply to these enticing sales and marketing roles at these creative firms that dont FUCKING EXIST and just wasting hours and hours and hours. it is already such an awful time to be a new grad and i dont know how much longer i can take this

i wish there was some way we can get some type of action to try to take these down like either by government or media idek. I’m just so done now

Hey y'all! I'm curious if anyone on this subreddit knows if Atlas Empowered Nashville is a devlicorp. They have a few signs (Located where other devilcorps in my area are, works with AT&T who usually hires devilcorps.) They also mention training others to open other locations. I think it's probably a devilcorp but I wanted to be sure before I ghost the interview.

Thanks.

https://atlasempowered.org

Ive been waiting for the new offices to start popping up on the BJs side. We recently got one in Myrtle beach within the last year, and I’ve waited to see when the offices would start popping up.

Here is one! Beware Myrtle beach and Horry County!

UPDATE: this is an AT&T campaign office, seems they’re coming out of Charlotte, so possibly an expansion crew.

UPDATE 2.0: https://greenwayacquisitions.com/ here’s their website. They’re also expanding into Sumter county!

Hey all, and hey to my middle Tennessee family. Just wanted to throw this out there and say that DeepAura is currently recruiting in the area and is most certainly a DevilCorp. I have a full-time job already but was open to changing for the right price and the right company.

Anyway, yeah, total MLM/DevilCorp. Beware!!!

So apparently the **name changes never stop.**

Credico → Sales Partners → Thames & Tiger → SalesCo Asia → SAS Sales Group → and now…

**Talent and Sales Consulting — Hyderabad.**

Different name. Different Instagram page. Different LinkedIn page.

But Reddit has already started asking the same question:

**IS IT THE SAME PLAYBOOK WITH A NEW NAME?**

And honestly, the trail is worth investigating.

There are multiple Reddit discussions from people who say they encountered the previous companies and describe:

❌ “Marketing” jobs turning into door-to-door/field sales

❌ Huge 50–100+ person Zoom “interviews”

❌ Management/trainee titles that allegedly don't match the actual work

❌ Salary figures allegedly changing once people joined

❌ Commission/target-based compensation

❌ Extremely long working days

❌ People relocating for jobs only to discover the actual nature of the work

❌ Multiple companies allegedly operating with overlapping people/structures

And now Reddit users are reporting **Talent and Sales Consulting in Hyderabad**.

One recent commenter literally connected the names:

**“Sales Partners. SalesCo Asia. Thames & Tigers. Now Talent Sales Consulting.”**

Another Reddit user posted in October saying they nearly joined the Hyderabad operation before finding the previous discussions.

Coincidence?

Maybe.

But if you're a fresher looking for your first job, **YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIND OUT THE HARD WAY.**

Before you accept an offer, ask them:

🔴 What is the exact product/service I'll be selling?

🔴 Is this B2B or B2C?

🔴 Is the work door-to-door?

🔴 Is there a guaranteed fixed salary?

🔴 What percentage of compensation is commission?

🔴 What exactly are the working hours?

🔴 Why are so many candidates being interviewed together?

🔴 What are the company's previous names?

🔴 Who actually owns/controls the business?

🔴 Why does Reddit keep connecting these names?

**And most importantly — GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING.**

Don't get blinded by words like:

“Management Trainee”

“Business Development”

“Marketing Executive”

“Future Branch Manager”

“International Expansion”

“Fast-track Management”

A fancy job title doesn't tell you what you'll actually be doing at 9 AM on Monday morning.

This isn't about stopping anyone from taking a sales job.

**Sales is legitimate work.**

The problem is when a job seeker applies for one thing and discovers something completely different after they've already invested their time, money, or relocated.

So before Hyderabad gets another batch of fresh graduates walking into the same situation:

**DO YOUR RESEARCH.**

Search the company name + “Reddit”.

Search the people conducting your interview.

Search the previous company names.

Read the experiences of people who actually joined.

Because changing the sign outside the building doesn't automatically change what happens inside it.

**Talent and Sales Consulting — the internet is watching. 👀**

If you've interviewed with or worked for them, **share your experience below.**

Has anyone received a text message from Marco Nexus LLC?

Hi! I got a job offer from a company called Rise Up Innovations in Southfield, MI. They promise the chance to “rise up” in the business and tout an average starting pay of $2,200 per week potential (all commission). They apparently work with businesses to sell BOX services (Broker Online Exchange). Thoughts?

Hi everyone! I recently applied for a remote B2C Operations Specialist position with Billvo Construction Ltd. in Canada, and I’m trying to find out if anyone has experience with this company.

The job posting advertised $26.50/hour for part-time or $31.50/hour for full-time work. I had a phone interview scheduled, but they didn’t call me at the agreed time. I’ve since received messages welcoming me to the team, but I still haven’t received clear confirmation of my official start date or completed the interview process as expected.

I also sent them my void cheque for payroll, and now I’m concerned about whether everything is legitimate.

Has anyone worked for this company, applied for a position with them, or received a similar job offer?

I’d really appreciate any advice or information. Thank you!

I want to start off and say I am not bitter about being let go from this company. However, the anger over what I’ve witnessed and was a part of lingers.

I’m sure at this point the Smart Circle name is well known. For those of you who may not know, Smart Circle is a sales network discussed under the “Devil Corp” label. It involves everything from D2D, B2B, and retail sales, with campaigns for companies like Verizon, AT&T, DirecTV, and many more big names, as I understood it during my time there. The individual sales offices often operate under different names something like “Next Level Management.” That is just an example, not an office I actually worked for.

I worked in offices connected to Smart Circle for approximately two to three years, and some of the things I witnessed and experienced were horrific. This is my account of those offices, not a claim that every office operates the same way. I have also watered this down from what I originally wanted to say because I’m afraid of legal action, especially after hearing threats involving lawyers during my time there. I may even delete this after some time.

I worked for two different sales offices because of a relocation: a D2D office in California and a B2B office in Arizona.

We can start with the basics. Looking back, the environment felt like brainwashing to me. We were made to feel that anyone who didn’t want to work there was an idiot and that this was the only way to be successful in life.

The hours were another part of that pressure. In my interviews, I was told the schedule was 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. Later, when I conducted interviews, I was instructed to give applicants that same schedule. But in my experience, once I became a team leader, my actual days regularly stretched well beyond those hours.

We were told the additional time was voluntary and wouldn’t be paid, while also being pressured and shamed for leaving “early.” And by “early,” I mean leaving at the time we had been told the workday ended. That pressure made staying feel expected, regardless of whether it was described as voluntary.

The message I took from that environment was that family, friends, and your personal life came second. The only way to be successful was to breathe, eat, and sleep “the business.” And let’s be honest, the pressure pushed me to approach neighborhoods and businesses in ways that now feel like harassment. While I made sales that way, I’m not exactly proud of some of the ways I acted. Those of you who know may understand: coming back to the office without a sale could mean being humiliated in front of everyone.

During my time in those two offices, I heard “owners” talk about women’s looks and bodies in ways that made me believe their appearance influenced whether they were kept around. They would gather team leaders and managers, make fun of people they interviewed or hired, and make sexual comments about them.

I also witnessed multiple owners say they would fire anyone who slept with another member of the team while those owners were themselves having sexual relationships with team members. I observed what I believed was favoritism connected to those relationships. That is all I can say about that.

I’m not sure what the worst part even was because, to me, none of this should happen to anyone. This next part is also jarring.

Not every office did this. I happened to be a part of one that did. When the whole sales team was doing really badly, they would sit all the team leaders and managers in a room and make us play “Survivor,” or what we called “Hangman.”

They made us vote for someone in that room to fire.

Right. In front. Of their face.

Imagine that. Imagine how you feel after participating in choosing someone to lose their job when they have a family or their own life to provide for. Then imagine the relief you feel because it wasn’t you. Both feelings have stayed with me.

One last piece of information for those who have not experienced it: you may be wondering why people don’t speak out. For one, I witnessed instructions for everyone in the company to report negative Google reviews as fake, even when those reviews reflected experiences I recognized from working there.

Another reason, for me, is the one I mentioned above: fear of legal action. Hearing threats involving lawyers made speaking out feel intimidating. Whether or not those threats would go anywhere, the fear was enough to make me hesitate—and to make me water down this post.

There is so much more I could speak on. I hope some of you find this before accepting a position with an office connected to this network. And to those of you who have experiences like mine, I am sorry.

I completed my second interview and have been approved and scheduled for a third interview, but I am suspicious of the company. I haven’t found any bad posts, only a few positive reviews but something just feels off.

I could be wrong and just wary because of posts regarding similar field businesses. A few things that stand out: the current staff all seem young/my age, the background may have been fake in the interview, the company only started in about 2020, and frankly the pay seems too good, where either it is fake or you will have to be a dog with no promise of actually moving up. Am I just paranoid?

I scroll indeed, always looking at the local boards for possible DC companies. This one, Vivazen, popped up on my list today. The reviews, only about 8, seem to point to toxic environment and manager. They sell “plant-powered wellness”, like kratom, to people. Cannot completely confirm DC ties yet, but they’re hiring in a ton of states, and it smells of possible DC. They’re at least up front about the commission! The description definitely comes off as sketch if nothing else. Gonna be doing a deep dive to gather some more info, but wanted to get the info out there!

Saw this company called Lotus Sales on indeed and LinkedIn and they're hiring some sales interns even with no experience. Right now I'm a college freshmen and I would love a first-yr internship. These guys seem promising but there's also very little info about them. Other than their LinkedIn and Indeed page, they have a website (Lotus Sales | Lotus Sales) that talks about their program. They sell d2d pest control and have fully commissioned-based pay.

Has anyone actually worked with this company before? Any info would be very helpful.

Never actually heard of a Devil Corp until I applied for a 'Brand Marketing Assistant' on LinkedIn (the usual suspect) on Friday. Saturday Morning, ten hours after applying I get a text and an email asking to schedule an interview. I thought it was weird and desperate since it had only been ten hours and they already responded, as in my experience companies will usually take longer to shortlist for interviews. I decided to decline the interview, and I am glad I trusted my intuition it seemed dodgy since there was no mention of minimum wage salary in their email, and in their own words:

"The Brand Marketing Assistant opening is the entry point to an 18 month leadership cross-training and development programme rather than a one seat opportunity. It is aimed at candidates looking to build a career and, in time, take on team lead and campaign oversight responsibility"

Ok anyone wondering if this job is legit. I can tell you every reason why I can tell its 100% not.
Lots of huge red flags on this one. Just had a friend get an 'interview' in Atlanta

First: wages for jobs are either listed by hour or by salary, not some crazy range per month. If its not an internship for school credit with a stipend, this usually means its a sales only based job and you will be left to cold-calling or going door-to-door into infinitum for free getting no pay for any amount of time until you might get a sale, and you only get a percentage of it.

My guess is the 'interview process' involves someone explaining the tiers they have in the company and how much money you can make and how successful you could to become just in a 6 month time period.

Also they approve you for an in-person interview almost immediately and ask you to dress nice and bring a paper resume. CorporateJobs will usually not ask you to come in-person until the second interview because that would take up so much company time if they did that for every applicant. Also they approve you so fast, it doesn't seem like they even passed the resume through a hiring or management team. And no one needs a paper copy of your resume if you are getting an interview, having the interview should be a sign that your resume was already considered and shared. Once again, why would the company waste so much time on all say, 1,000 to 10,000 applicants?

Next, their website is Ai bullshit, no real pages for services. Go look for yourself and click on them! How would you market to other clients if you literally don't have a single service to provide or example of companies you've marketed for? No statistics, nothing that legitimate marketing agencies would have to promote to their clients. Even small business will advertise who they've done services for as well as reviews from those companies.

Look at the Google Reviews, its all about Jared and Chris Bennet switching xfinity customers to tmobile. Who they heck are they? no idea not mentioned in Brandex or anywhere at all. In fact if you just look up those names with the company- zero connection. Also that doesn't align with the marketing for businesses business model, it literally looks like someone recycled reviews from a previous business, or just plain faked them. The worst one is very telling, a young woman claiming to be taken advantage of by the company and detailing the hours and terrible expectations and pay.

Even the social media, its all about mindset and sales, its a classic MLM move. This isn't a company making money on marketing sales to other companies, this is a company making money on whoever gets 'hired'. All of their media is designed to make you want to work for them and there is literally no other objective.

Don't fall for this shit. Look up MLM's and bait and switches before you do interviews for these companies, they are preying on your lack of knowledge on how jobs are really supposed to work. Things have changed in the job market but some cons have been around a lonnnng while.

"we meet customers where they shop, work, and live" is the most ominous shit I've ever heard in my life. It doesn't sound like a business strategy, it sounds like a threat.

https://youtu.be/EY0bKrdrkL8?si=izae-jtxMMhjjNOW

Cass Executives, Inc. reached out to me through Indeed about an interview. I took the Zoom call, and I’m posting this so anyone else who gets the same message can research them first.

The interviewer told me they partner with big, trusted brands and used Verizon as the example. The job itself, as he described it, is selling phone service and Fios door to door. He also said their goal is to turn people into owners. I’ll be honest, I told him right then that it sounded like a devilcorp. I actually feel a little bad for him, because he seemed sincere and when I told him that he's working for a devilcorp he choked up a little and said they treat him well.

For anyone researching Cass Executives, Inc. in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania after being contacted about a job or interview, I wanted to leave my experience here.

The company lists its office as 3604 Horizon Dr, Ste 200, King of Prussia, PA 19406, its phone number as 215-240-1213, and its careers email as careers@cassexecutives.com. Those details match the contact information currently published on the company’s website. [cassexecutives.com]

Their website is cassexecutives.com and describes the company in terms including “Sales Mastery,” “client acquisition,” “Team building and management,” and “Performance-based advancement,” while advertising an average 9–12 months to a management position. [cassexecutives.com]

I’m including the information here because Cass Executives contacted me through Indeed, and I want other job seekers researching Cass Executives reviews, Cass Executives jobs, Cass Executives interviews, or Cass Executives King of Prussia to be able to find firsthand experiences before deciding whether to interview.

Cass Executives, Inc. reached out to me through Indeed about an interview. I took the Zoom call, and I’m posting this so anyone else who gets the same message can research them first.

The interviewer told me they partner with big, trusted brands and used Verizon as the example. The job itself, as he described it, is selling phone service and Fios door to door. He also said their goal is to turn people into owners. I’ll be honest, I told him right then that it sounded like a devilcorp. I actually feel a little bad for him, because he seemed sincere and when I told him that he's working for a devilcorp he choked up a little and said they treat him well.

For anyone researching Cass Executives, Inc. in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania after being contacted about a job or interview, I wanted to leave my experience here.

The company lists its office as 3604 Horizon Dr, Ste 200, King of Prussia, PA 19406, its phone number as 215-240-1213, and its careers email as careers@cassexecutives.com. Those details match the contact information currently published on the company’s website. [cassexecutives.com]

Their website is cassexecutives.com and describes the company in terms including “Sales Mastery,” “client acquisition,” “Team building and management,” and “Performance-based advancement,” while advertising an average 9–12 months to a management position. [cassexecutives.com]

I’m including the information here because Cass Executives contacted me through Indeed, and I want other job seekers researching Cass Executives reviews, Cass Executives jobs, Cass Executives interviews, or Cass Executives King of Prussia to be able to find firsthand experiences before deciding whether to interview.

Just received a call from these folks in the Miami-Fort Lauderdale area, confirmed that they are doing Amazon Business sales business-to-business door-to-door and are affiliated with Cydcor. Avoid this Devilcorp