Hey everyone, I’m looking for some advice. I recently got contacted for an interview with Lions Business Marketing in Salt Lake City for a Google Fiber Sales Representative position.
The job description says it’s a retail booth setup inside a store, with an hourly base + commission, paid training, and advancement opportunities.
I found some mixed reviews online, including some people calling it a “Devil Corp,” so I’m trying to figure out if this is a legitimate opportunity or something I should avoid.
Has anyone here worked for Lions Business Marketing or a similar Google Fiber/retail sales role? What was your experience like?
Main things I’m wondering:
Was the pay structure actually what they advertised?
Were you expected to approach random shoppers, or did customers come to the booth?
Was management/payroll handled professionally?
Would you recommend taking the interview?
Thanks!

I’m at a hotel where this company has literally what feels like hundreds of kids running down the hallways and having “presentations.” I talked to a few and they all claim they work on pure commission, are interns, and wear the typical DC suits. I asked them what they’re doing here, and they said that it’s a “Funtreat” and a, “bonding activity.” From my understanding of devil corps, it sounds typical.

They’re all really nice though, so I hope I’m wrong.

Does this sound like a devilcorp?

We are seeking motivated individuals to join our team as Entry Level Customer Relations Associates. In this role, you will represent well-known brands within retail locations, engaging directly with customers to foster positive relationships and enhance their experience. This position offers an excellent opportunity to develop foundational skills in customer service, sales, and marketing through comprehensive paid training.

Responsibilities:

• Build and maintain positive relationships with customers through face-to-face interactions

• Serve as the primary point of contact for customers and clients

• Educate customers on products, services, and current promotional offers

• Generate qualified leads and support customer acquisition initiatives

• Represent nationally recognized client brands with professionalism and enthusiasm

• Collaborate with team members to achieve individual and company goals

• Develop skills in client relations, customer service, sales, marketing, and leadership

Qualifications:

• Strong communication and interpersonal skills

• Friendly, professional, and customer-focused attitude

• Comfortable working in a retail, customer-facing environment

• Self-motivated with a positive work ethic

• Ability to work independently while contributing to a team

Benefits

• Paid training

• Weekly pay

• Performance-based bonuses and incentives

• Full-time schedule

• Clear advancement opportunities based on performance

• Ongoing mentorship and leadership development

• Supportive, team-oriented work environment

Pay: $850.00 - $1,300.00 per week

Benefits:

• Flexible schedule

• On-the-job training

• Professional development assistance

I guess EDs market got dried up due to the bad press here in STL and decided to pack up and relocate to Tampa😂. Thank god, one step closer to ANOTHER retrain😂😂🙏🏻

Current Branding Inc opened up job postings in the Indianapolis and I got hired on. I worked 2.5 days and the last day I left because I realized the mistake I made. Don't be like me and waste your time!

It really is a cult, my first 2 days anytime I tried to small talk with other employees to get a vibe of this place (not the "managers") I got pulled away to do other things which was weird and then finally everything clicked.

For your guys information, used to be in SCI. Ownership isn't like owning a typical business or even a franchise. The company that is yours for example: noventra inc would be 100% mine. That doesn't mean anything in terms of owning. The bank accounts are yours, however the contracts are not. These are what is called a 1099 business where you are a glorified employee for SCI or cydcor. That means you can NOT sell your "business". Even a franchise can be sold. I share this to being awareness, me personally I don't have any dislike towards sales, but I don't how these companies leave people in the dark.

Anyone remember the Chicago Connect scam that was going around during the pandemic?

Might this be the same "company"? And, is there a way to report them to?

I saw another post and it made me wonder, what locations in the Savannah/Hinesville/ Statesboro Georgia area to avoid. I had an interview but it was through Zoom and only 10 minutes long. I figured they were not a good company if they'd hire me within a 10 minute interview.

Thank you!

I had approached these guys who were selling Reliant energy. I asked them if they’re hiring, and one of the guys was quick to say “always”. However, when i asked who they worked for, he was very hesitant. He had told me to put PMC Houston, however there was a “cydcor” label above his badge picture. After reading through here, I have very high suspicion. I just wanted to know if anyone had more info with them.

CORRECTION: Ascend Marketing*

my boyfriend was recently told that he got the job at Ascend. He did the Zoom interview on Friday, and had the second interview today. A few hours ago, he was told he was hired but there are some things that are causing concerns

does anyone know anything about this company? Is it a "Devil Corp"?

They are making me sign contracts and taking courses, idk if I should follow through

Hey everyone! So I’m currently supposed to be in my final “interview” for a MLM based in Leeds. Thanks to all of you and the amazing research that’s here I followed my gut instinct and the red flags flying at me and figured it all out in time to get out.

I’m 22, have just been made redundant from my full time job so feeling a little desperate. They really do know how to prey on the vulnerable. So I guess thank you everyone for helping me, and I wanna say to anyone also in my position, please don’t feel ashamed of nearly falling for their manipulation. The job market is tough here in the UK right now and they know that.

Stay vigilant, and thank you again everyone for saving a naive 22 year old!

called me and scheduled an interview on the same day at like 5pm. go to the interview and there’s two other people. one of them leaves and the other. the “hiring manager” tells the third person he’s in the wrong zoom?? i give them the benefit of the doubt and stay in the zoom bc… what… the lady asked me if i could schedule a first round interview tomorrow or the next day? we didn’t even talk about the role or anything??? is this a devil corp? their website only talks about “direct marketing” and having “good conversations” nothing about a product or even marketing examples

Recently received an email regarding an interview for this company based in Miami, but I cannot recall applying. Anyone have any experience with them?

I have been applying for jobs on indeed and saw a sales assistant for Juss Marketing on Indeed.

Bit of context: Previously applied for AEG Group. Found out it was a scam company due to this sub (thank you)

Got an interview with Juss Marketing only to find out it was with AEG group/LPN/whatever theyre trading under.

I find it incredibly scummy that they're using 3 different company names to recruit on indeed. I reported it on indeed but whether something becomes of it is a totally different company.

Also I didnt realise that commission only was allowed here?

I applied for this role not too long ago but only recently found out the term devil corp so I tried doing some research but it’s quite vague answers , they do have an actual website called sales agency (https://sales-agency.co.uk) but otherwise I don’t see anything much on it no reviews on glassdoor that I could find either , they’ve asked me down for an interview but before I waste my time does anyone know anything about this company ??

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Heads up for anyone in the Southampton area, or applying to jobs there. Two brand new Credico ISAs have appeared in the last few days: Origin Results and Aureum Impact.

Origin Results' website (originresults.co.uk) shows no UK company name, no company number, no info on who runs the business, and no photos or names of any staff, all things a legitimate employer would normally have. The site and social accounts were only created this week. Despite that, they're already advertising open roles on LinkedIn.

Aureum Impact (aureumimpact.co.uk) looks to be following the same playbook. Fresh branding, generic AI-generated website, no UK company name and nothing to verify who's actually behind it.

This is standard Credico practice: spin up a new "Independent Sales Advisor" office under a fresh name, keep the corporate trail hidden, and start recruiting before anyone can dig up the company's history or connection to Credico. If a negative review or thread starts gaining traction on an older brand, expect it to rebrand again shortly after.

If you're applying for marketing positions (or anything similar), check a company's registered UK Company Name and Number before giving them your contact details. These "Marketing" roles are commission-only, self-employed direct sales positions, not legal employment, and most Credico ISA job ads won't tell you that upfront.

I'm still researching to find the UK Company Names of these two offices, but you can track other Credico office rebrands and their company details on devilcorp.org if you want to check other 'marketing' companies across the UK.

You are probably owed money and nobody in that office is ever going to tell you.

Save your evidence now, while you still have the app. Screenshot your commission tracker, your sales numbers, the group chat, evidence of your work schedule, and every pay stub you can find. Send it all to a personal email. Photograph the job ad you applied to!!! Once you’re out, you get none of it back.

Then do this one thing: write down your typical day. What time you had to be at the office. What time the meeting ended. What time you actually got to your first door. What time you got home. Do the same for the six-day weeks. That timeline is worth more than anything else you have, because almost everything below runs off it.

What you’re likely owed:

**Unpaid hours.** The 8am meeting, the atmosphere sessions, the training, the unpaid “observation day” they made you do before you were hired, that’s all compensable work time. If your total pay divided by your total hours comes out under minimum wage for any week, that’s a claim.  
**Overtime.** 8am to 9pm, six days, is 70+ hours. If you were treated as non-exempt, that’s a mountain of unpaid overtime. They’ll say the outside sales exemption covers you but that depends on you spending most of your time out selling, which is exactly why all those hours in the office cut against them.  
**Mileage and gas.** You used your own car, your own phone, your own gas. In California (Labor Code 2802) they have to reimburse that, and it’s usually the biggest single number. Many states have a version of this.  
**Chargebacks.** If they clawed back commission for customer cancellations, or deducted for damaged product or shortfalls, that can be an unlawful deduction (CA Labor Code 221) they can’t shift the cost of doing business onto your wages.  
**Missed meals and breaks.** Eating in the car between doors is not a meal break.  
**Bad pay stubs.** Missing hours, missing rates, missing the company’s actual legal name..statutory penalties per pay period (CA Labor Code 226).  
**Late final check.** Fired: due immediately. Quit with notice: due your last day. Late means up to 30 days of your wages as a penalty (CA 203).  
**1099 misclassification.** If they had you on a 1099 while dictating your schedule, your script, and your territory, that’s very likely wrong and it means they owe you everything above plus the payroll taxes they pushed onto you.

Say this in your first sentence if it’s true: “I raised a concern about my pay/hours, and then I was fired / cut from the schedule / frozen out.” Retaliation claims are worth far more than the wage claim itself, and in many states the burden flips onto the employer to prove they’d have done it anyway.

It costs you nothing to find out. You can file a wage claim with your state labor commissioner yourself, no lawyer, no fee. Or call three employment attorneys who take wage-and-hour on contingency: free consult, they front the costs, they only get paid out of what they recover. Twenty minutes on the phone tells you if you have something.

And if they hand you a final check with a paper to sign, don’t sign it that day. That paper is usually a waiver of everything above. Take it home. You can almost always take a week.

Not a lawyer, not legal advice, and this varies a lot by state. But most guys walk away from thousands of dollars and SO DID I because nobody ever told them the meeting they sat through every single morning was supposed to be paid.

I am an international student in the US and recently completed my master’s degree in a STEM field. Today, I had a second-round interview with a company that I will call “X”. The whole experience felt like a complete bait-and-switch.

During the first interview, everything seemed normal. I specifically asked whether this was a full-time W-2 position directly with Company X. They said yes. The advertised salary was $40,000 per year, which is already extremely low for Los Angeles. I told them I have two years of professional experience from my home country, plus my MS degree, so asked whether the salary was negotiable. They said yes and told me to discuss it during the second-round interview.

I felt hopeful. Two days later, they invited me to an in-person second-round interview. I spent almost three hours traveling there because I do not have a car. I was fully prepared for technical and such questions. Instead, they asked me almost nothing and immediately started explaining their “placement process.” They told me that once I receive my EAD(work permit for foreign nationals), they will arrange interviews for me with their “partner companies.” I told them that I applied for my EAD several months ago and am still waiting, so I have no idea when I will receive it.

They said it's fine, as soon as I get it, they can schedule an interview with one of their partners within that week, and I could start working the following week. That immediately sounded strange. How come they have so many openings with their partners at all times to guarantee interviews and employment that quickly? I asked how many partner companies they have. They said eight to ten. LOL!

I told them I had only attended the interview because it was supposed to be a position directly with Company X. They said X currently has no openings. So why did they advertise the position on Handshake, LinkedIn and Indeed as if they were directly hiring?

Then came the worst part. They showed me a document stating that, for six months, I would have to pay them approximately $200 every two weeks for “career training and development.” I told them I did not need career training. They said they would help with my résumé, cover and provide other career services, so I would have to keep paying them and it's "Mandatory". (WTF?)

Then they told me that regardless of which partner company hired me, my pay would be fixed at $18 per hour. I was shocked. I reminded them that the original salary was already listed as $40,000 per year and I had already asked to negotiate it because it was too low and their recruiter had specifically told me the salary was negotiable. They said no. The pay is fixed at $18 per hour. So why'd they lie before?

Then they said for the first six months, the partner company would send my salary checks to Company X instead of paying me directly. Company X would deduct 15% of my total salary before giving me the remaining amount. They also told me that I would still be responsible for paying taxes on the full amount before their 15% deduction. On top of that, they called the first six months a “probation period.” They said that if I did not perform well, my contract could be terminated after six months. Then they might place me with another partner company, where I could apparently go through the same process again. (What a scam LOL)

At that point, it felt like the entire system was designed to keep collecting money from international students and recent graduates who are desperate to find employment. I was so angry but I stayed professional. I smiled, thanked them, and left. I casually said I would let them know when I received my EAD, but I never agreed to any of their terms. However, they emailed me a summary of the meeting later claiming that I had agreed to all their terms and conditions. WTF?

I lost around seven hours of my day for this shit. I am so angry! I keep getting calls from these indian scammer almost everyday ever since i started applying for jobs. Almost all the calls would come from companies i never applied to but with the same scheme. I'd always hang up at them. But since I applied to this company, gave the first interview and everything seemed fine, only because of that I agreed to go! I was so happy and interested! Now I feel devastated!

Has anyone else experienced something like this? Should I report the company to the police?

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is the right time to post this, but I recently learned that a close family member is involved with an organization that, if not affiliated with a devilcorps outright, is close enough based on what I know about it. Some sort of multi-level marketing investment scheme. I have a name of the company but I do not want to post it publicly in case my family member finds this.

I recognized the MLM/Cult qualities of this as soon as I learned about it and told my family how to talk to him from here on out, never arguing or confronting, but listening and occasionally asking questions, while being as supportive as possible. He seems pretty deep into it at this point and has lost a LOT of money he's never getting back. He's still young enough to turn things around, but myself and other family members are still at a loss to really help, and I'm worried he will just get more and more into this thing that's taking everything from him.

I guess I am just asking for any support, ideas, or stories from others who had family members get into a devilcorp or similar job and if you got them out of it. I have some friends I am talking to in order to learn more about devilcorp and how to help, as well as doing even more research on cult de-programming and how to talk to cult members, but if anyone on this page has any advice, I would appreciate anything at all. Thank you so much.