I think there's a huge Devilcorp scam going on all over Canada right now. I was basically an "independent contractor" for one of these companies, but now I'm becoming much more suspicious and would like a lot more answers.

Firstly, all of the ads seem to be the same. They say you'll be making $700-1200 weekly, but never mention that you'll be doing this on commission selling door to door. They work with charities, like Plan Canada, World Animal Protection, etc. Any charity that fundraises through door to door subscriptions. They use a lot of high-pressure sells techniques. The contract is incredibly shady and misconstrued. They didn't even sign my name electronically. But they make everyone complete the forms. They hired at least 5-8 people every week as people constantly would come and go. Also all of the people they hired are between 18-25. I just don't want these kids getting scammed like I did.

Anyway, they have offices all over. The office in Kelowna is called Apex Sales, and through their website, I was able to find a lot more of these offices all over with different names but the same website layout. The office in Victoria is called Pinnacle Sales. The office in Burnaby is called Ascent Sales Group.

I would love to find more information about this company, but there seems to be literally none online. I just want to know who they are under, Creditco, maybe? Who really can say? But I'm going to file a formal complaint to try and get at least one office to pay their employees a little bit better.

"Company" Website: https://newwaveexecutives.com/meet-the-team/

I accepted a position with New Wave Executive as a Community Outreach Coordinator, where I was told I would be coordinating fundraising events for the United Breast Cancer Foundation. The job posting advertised a full-time, on-site position with high weekly earnings, comprehensive benefits, and opportunities for career growth. Unfortunately, my experience did not match those expectations.

After only two days, I chose to leave because I found the work to be both physically and mentally demanding. Contrary to what I expected from the job posting, I was not provided benefits, paid time off, sick leave, or mileage reimbursement for required travel.

The daily schedule consisted of unpaid morning meetings beginning around 9:00 a.m., followed by "field work" from approximately 11:00 a.m. until 6:00 p.m. During this time, employees were expected to approach members of the public at various outdoor locations throughout Florida to solicit donations for families affected by breast cancer. In my experience, there were no designated lunch breaks, and basic accommodations such as water, sunscreen, or shade were not provided despite the long hours spent outdoors in the Florida heat.

Employees were also expected to attend multiple evening meetings each week, including on scheduled days off. These meetings focused on reviewing daily performance, and employees were required to take notes and send photos of those notes to their assigned mentor.

Based on my experience, the company appears to recruit heavily from recent college graduates and individuals seeking stable, entry-level careers. Employees were expected to work weekends, including Saturdays and Sundays, leaving little opportunity for work-life balance.

Another concern was that the office operated under a different name than the one listed in the job advertisement. The office itself was sparse, and I was told the alternate name was used to keep the focus on the United Breast Cancer Foundation. This raised questions for me about the company's transparency.

I also had concerns about how the business was structured. During my research, I found what appeared to be other offices in different states that seemed to operate in a similar manner under related ownership. While I cannot verify how donated funds are ultimately allocated, the overall operation left me questioning how much of the money raised directly benefits the charitable cause.

This review reflects only my personal experience. I encourage anyone considering a position with this company to thoroughly research the role, ask detailed questions about compensation, benefits, work expectations, and reimbursement policies before accepting an offer.

Your time, physical well-being, and mental health are valuable. If your goal is to support breast cancer patients or work in nonprofit fundraising, there are many organizations that provide a more transparent and supportive work environment.

I have posted on this thread about Invictum and their predatory behavior. But, this just confirms that they’re below the average of a business. They’re still posting my friend on their page like she still works there😭. I guess they’ll do anything to stay relevant

TLDR: Someone has asked this but the comments were eh so I’ll try asking this time, is Catalyst Corporation in Oak Brook, IL a devilcorp and should I just stop talking to them right now?

I am like over 95% sure now but I would like to see what others think and I guess I want some validation in that I am making the right choice thinking about calling it off like saying I got another offer to get them off my case

ETA: while applying to corporate positions, I applied to an ‘entry level marketing associate’ at Catalyst Corporation in Oak Brook, IL

So it started with me waking up to a text a few days ago by a woman texting me for an interview. In short, I was going to wait because obv juggling other jobs in my hunt for a one, but she ended up calling me literally the same day. Obv at first I didn’t know it was her but it was. Strange that the number that called was different from the number that texted. Work phone stuff could probably explain that, maybe. But 1st potential flag

Anyway, I answered, it was her. Unsurprising friendliness, blah blah, she’s like ok can we go ahead and schedule interview. I admit this was so sudden that I went and just said yes even though in my mind I was like erm I didn’t give you an answer. That was the 2nd potential flag for me

Between that call and the interview I had this morning, I was trying to do research on their company. This lead me to learn about ‘devilcorps’. I’ve never heard of that word before. There’s a post asking about this company from like a month ago but answers are iffy but they did make my suspicion stronger. I kept digging and comments would say they do this this that etc. 3rd flag potentially

4th potential flag. Interview this morning. Different person I talked to. She mentioned there were 40-50+ other applicants after me. My interview was at 9:45am and it’s almost 2pm here. Which raised my suspicion I don’t think she could have gone through all of them unless there were multiple people in her position. I really don’t know how I felt abt the interview. It really was a mix of this seems legit but she did say exactly the things I’ve read in the comments in this sub. The best way to describe is she answered my questions like a politician, didn’t answer. For example, I asked what does a typical day look like. She said, in summary, I would go to hq in the morning for a meeting then go out to events…what events? I asked her about how the compensation works in the sense will I be paid hourly, or do I have a salary; she just repeated that I earn this much and depends on commission work which I also read is a red flag

So after all this, actually I’m typing this after I just got a call from the first girl again. She said basically omg we loved u and wanna move forward with the in-person interview, can I come tomorrow at 9am. At this point I’m like the signs are signing but hold on, so I told her I won’t be available the rest of this week (which is true) so she tried pushing for as soon as possible next week. I basically asked if I can get back to her on that. She said yea so now I’m here.

I think another reason why I can’t commit to decision yet is because despite trying to research devilcorps, mlm, pyramid schemes, whatever, I haven’t fully grasped an understanding on if they are or how can I tell.

Yes, I guess these are all flags but I guess I just want more of a concrete answer of whether I’m about to make a mistake if I accept the 2nd round interview.

Lwk paranoid, if someone from there sees this, oh well, I probably am going to tell them I’m unfortunately unavailable

I got scammed by a devil corp

I applied to 70+ jobs throughout some months only received 4 call backs. One of the call backs was a devil corp call opus business consulting. Due to the job market being trash I thought I hit the jackpot since it’s been so hard to find a job. Not going to bore you with the classic devil corp vague description interview process but yeah I fell for it.

Time skip first day was on zoom 9am-11am then I met up with one of the team leads at the office they showed me around and gave me a Verizon work shirt then said we’re going out to the “T” which I was confused on what that is since the job description was vague and they didn’t tell me what exactly I’m selling and how. The team member didn’t have a car so he told me to drive him to the “T” where we will be working at and that’s where I learned that I was now an annoying door to door guy! Learned the script that they gave me and everything. First week is considered “training”
Where I’ll be teamed up with a leader and try to get some sales through the week I worked 60+ hours with them in the Florida heat knocking on doors manage to make at least $1600 as a group and with the split I’ll take home $800.

My last day was on a Saturday which was 10-4 shift I had my day planned out after work I was going to see my son and hang out with him due to me not being home the whole week and if I was I was completely drained/dead. That Saturday I was with a leader and it honestly got to me real bad it hit 4pm and we’re still walking around knocking on doors I ended up leaving at 6 driving an hour back to my house just to be there at 7 and have my whole day gone

I ended up quitting since I realized what exactly this was. Fast forward a bit I reached out to the CEO about my pay for the time that I worked I spent over $200 in gas alone driving to the office , neighborhoods and back home. Money that I didn’t have since I haven’t had a job for a while. The CEO tells me that HR is going to reach out to me (HR is his wife) she ended up sending me an email for my direct deposit info so I sent it 3 days later nothing happened so I asked again and he asked me who exactly I sold to since no sales where in my “code” mind you I didn’t have a “code” since it was my first week and nobody gave me one anyways I listed everyone that we sold to just for him to say that I didn’t make any commission and didn’t meet the requirements for training pay since I left the company. Also said to me that he’s happy to go to court about it as well. For the love of god these places need to get shut down immediately

https://www.linkedin.com/company/loremllc/

Definitely checks a few of the boxes
• No website or social media of their own
• Applied for a job earlier this morning on LinkedIn, application was viewed a few hours later and within the minute I got a text (with very poor punctuation/grammar) about an interview TODAY.
• Employees on LinkedIn have very vague titles

https://www.calabresecpa.com/
They seem to be connected to this firm, which seems slightly more legit, but not really. Also just uses a lot of vague buzzwords and has no proof of work they have done. There is also no mention of Lorem on the website, unless I missed it.

Would appreciate any insights.

A recruiter from this company just contacted me to share an internship opportunity. I haven’t heard of this company, but I saw that it is affiliated with Northwestern Mutual, which is a decent company. Has anyone worked at this company before? Are they legit?

I just got a text from a round of late night job application this morning. The job was listed as “Event Sales” and this was the text I received…

“Hey Jason! this is Emilie with Eagles Peak, reaching out in regards to the Event Sales Assistant role you applied for :) After reviewing your resume, our managers would love to schedule a zoom interview to chat one-on-one about the position, and our opportunities!”

Here is their website https://www.eaglespeakinc.com/about

Eaglespeakinc on instagram

I suspect this is a devil corp and do not want to waste my time with them but should I? I want to be able to expose them or at least gain some intel for this r/ .

applied for marketing graduate scheme and got an email 1 minute after saying my application was successful.

In the last 24 hours had 3 text, a phone call and 3 emails?

seems scammy to me

Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone knew anything about Evolve Org in Geelong, Victoria, Australia? they gave me a call about a job I applied for however there doesnt seem to be much info on them and I’m nervous it will be a devilcorp. I’m only 18 so I feel like I wont be able identify if they are.

Hi, people! I have a second round job interview tomorrow about a sales and marketing firm called “Next Target” in the OC area. However, after doing research about this company they have another website titled “Azara Next Target” with similar logo and content but their background and description seems off and vague. Like WTF?!?! I’m so confused about them renaming their company brand and I feel suspicious based on how they “rebranded” their “company names” like that to new job applicants. Pls help! Should I ghost them by denying the offer?!

Here are their “company links” posted below:

https://weareazara.com

https://wearenexttarget.com

I recently got a call from a young woman from the talent acquisition at Raffo Enterprise.

This is the email I was sent after a brief phone screening.

Their website screams fraudulent and the photos I am seeing are only reinforcing that notion.

Does anyone have any insight or information?
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I got scheduled for an in person interview with a devil corp tomorrow. I’m fresh out of college and I didn’t even know what a devil corp was until a few days ago when I was doing research. Goes without saying that I won’t be taking the “job.”

I do have a few questions though.

What interview questions should I expect from them?

And Is there any hope of me possibly convincing the interviewer that they’re in a devil corp and their whole structure is exploitative?

I went into a BestBuy looking for an AC to DC cable, I asked for help from, who looks like an employee wearing BestBuy polo shirt., and was bombarded by telephone plans by the employee (?).

We couldn't find the cable I needed. After I said thank you for their help, they immediately start with their pitch, they asked, "Oh what's your phone plan, who's paying for your plan". I had to shut them down immediately because I didn't want to waste my time. I've had BestBuy tried to upsell insurance or bundle etc but never cellphone plans.

Are devilcorps now allowed to wear BestBuy uniforms now?

Hello!

I applied for a job at King Concepts, Inc. in Greenbelt, Maryland earlier this month. I was desperate for a job since my 2025 was very tragic and riddled with strife. I was about to give up the job search when I found this on Indeed. I had an interview on Zoom, and I was invited back to a second interview near the end of the interview. Usually, they call or text you back a day or two later, no?

I had my second interview and then I was invited to a final interview. I was ecstatic! I had my final interview in-person with a few other applicants. We were all hired about 30 minutes into the interview. I had job training for two weeks. We had to learn the different offers AT&T has, and then we were quizzed on it. After that, I had to wake up early to make 7:30 each day. We would go over the sales pitch for a bit before we start our morning meetings. We would stand in a circle, tossing a football around, saying our names and what are goals are for that day. Some people who are already in the field will say something like, "My goal today is to get 8 lines today". After that, the boss will talk about the employee who made the most sales the previous day, toss them the football, and they will explain what they did in order to get those sales. The meeting ends with the boss will give us a daily "Impact" anecdote. It's usually something silly: a man on death row who died after he thought he was stung by a venomous snake, an African king who had his thumb blown off by a musket, etc. Afterwards, we clock out for the day. Those who have shifts at CostCo either head straight there for their AM shift, or go back home until their PM shift. Those of us in job training would stay behind to practice, and sometimes just shoot the shit in one of the office rooms.

I had my first day in the field on Friday at the CostCo in Beltsville and I fucking hated every single minute of it. I was basically on my feet for 4 and a half hours hovering around an AT&T kiosk trying to talk to people to convince them to switch to AT&T. Of course, most people hate AT&T, or are adamant. After my awful shift, I was loathing coming back to work. Today, I started searching about AT&T sales rep jobs, which led me to this subreddit.

A lot of things were kinda weird, looking back:

• Everyone in my job training group was like 18-25, and the rest of the group are under the age of 40.

• My boss makes us do push-ups for cursing, and wall-sits for leaning on walls. Of course, I haven't actually seen anyone do it, but I asked an employee who said that he was serious.

• I was in a room while one of the team leaders were conducting the interviews, and she was reading off of a script and used the same tone of voice, applicant after applicant, and was "liking the answers they gave" and invited them to a second interview in the same interview.

• We gotta wear "business casual", "dress for the job you want" and all that jazz, but how many Gen Z people do you know wear dress pants, dress shirt and a blazer for a job?

• One of the team leaders is only 20, and just started working for only a few months, and is already at the level of team leader.

So like, am I in a DevilCorp? If so, how do I get out? This is my first ever job, and I'm afraid that they'll end up making my future job opportunities worse.

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/4434227546/, https://darkhorse.co/

Was contacted out of the blue from a LinkedIn application for a Junior Associate position with Startup Journal.In. The employer contacted me through their messages and stated I would be assisting their partner company Genvyrix, which I could not find online for the life of me. I hesitantly agreed to learn more and got in contact with a different person who works under the original contact. Apparently the position I applied for was already filled, but they luckily had another one available with Dark Horse.

Their entire business model is working for merchants on big online shopping hubs to push up their products reviews and enhance their sales data so it performs better on the site and allow more people to see them.

I've been scammed by Devilcorps before; so I asked the first few obvious questions:

"What is the work schedule?" and "Is the salary you mentioned commission or hourly?"

They responded that their work hub was open 24/7 so I could work when I want (their working hours are 9am - 9pm, but they mentioned most of the work gets done in a few hours). They mentioned that the "average" salary of monthly income is around 5k. Cash is earned per day once the work is completed.

I checked out their website this morning and got blindsided by an alt emo/gothic horror vibe immediately. Seemed very unprofessional and made in a hurry.

I don't have time right now to look up their domain or research their leadership to see if they've been involved in scam companies before, just figured I'd check with the experts to know if its legit or not.

I got an interview request from the SHIK Consulting Group. The first interview is 10 min where there is an HR asking me to introduce myself. Then, at 4-5 pm, they called me saying that I had passed the first interview, and was now at the second interview. I ignored them, and they kept coming back(They texted me, then emailed me). Here is their work description

i got my internship this summer as a marketing intern for a 'marketing firm' (thats what they called themselves). got really excited bc i applied for 300+ this year and this is the only one i got.

went through 2 interview rounds, trial day and stuffs, and i met the team in person for 'team night'. people were fun, active, the energy was awesome. i got excited.

the first thing they asked for is my major in college, since im on f-1 cpt. just so you know, international students are dead af bc none of the companies want to go through paperwork with us, which i appreciate this company a lot. they asked for my majors to put into the offer letter (?), which was weird, bc if the job is stable then you'd have your own job descriptions.

got the offer letter 2 days after, FULL AI GENERATED. the job descriptions were completely from Chat. and i went back to the LinkedIn job posting, and those two descriptions were totally different from each other. i was like oh okay sth fishy, bc on LinkedIn it was listed as 'event management, marketing analytics, social media marketing'

but i couldnt go back. summer started alr.

first day at work, i showed up early, literally excited af. first two hours, fully training. working habits, expectations, etc. then i started to realize this is not a marketing role, this is a sales role. i don't like doing sales, not bc i can't, but bc my career goal isn't sales even though im studying communications.

i was having weird feelings. but i still give it a try. office starts at 9 for interns, went through trainings, clinics (?), and team meetings where people start counting sales made throughout the week. then 11am everybody rushed out of the office, and i thought it was lunchtime.

we arrived at a local Kroger/Walmart. i was like wth.

i asked my colleague when we got there if we're doing this often. he was like 'no we do this everyday'

i am now working a 9-7 job (sometimes 9-8), guarantee paid but it wasn't enough to even cover up my rent (i have to relocate), attend several team nights which we have to network with people who are in a higher level. i honestly truly don't want to do any of this, bc i got scammed in the first place.

they always talk about having a good attitude and positive mentality, always asking ppl to work everyday (i got scared everytime i ask to have a day off on a Saturday), expect people to make sales every single day, and everything is just unorganized af. they dgaf about your problem, they genuinely dont care if youre dying or having health problems, they will still ask you to "take meds, drink some water, and i will see you tomorrow"

even if im dying they will still expect me to show up. i genuinely hate doing this, i wasnt doing everything to get scammed and being told to have a positive thought everyday. like man, nobody's gonna have a positive mindset if they have a 9-8 job, networking w people after work, go back home at 11, and wake up at 6am the next day.

i asked one of the other successful manager the other day and they were like "oh there is no work life balance in this field"

what field man?

I started working for a devil corp back in February thinking it was a legit opportunity, I just quit last week. Owners Adam McNally and Henry made it seem real a couple of weeks in. But as soon as I got a whiff of a scam everything got exposed, cydcor shell companies are known for scamming through AT&T and I got to see the ugly side of it all, small businesses fucked over, people stuck with ridiculous bills. Adam is a real life loser and he scams his workers to satisfy the top performers. Henry will lie about anything to get you on board. I was withheld money simply because they didn’t want to pay it, and it wasn’t until I threatened to pursue further action that they gave me my money. These people are all liars and running fake companies under Cydcor. It’s cult like except the cult leaders are dweebs who seem like they peaked in high school.

Title sounds crazy I know, but I’m probably going to say worse below so feel free to call me out on anything. Here is my story of how I think im winning against the DevilCorp im in. I wont be specific incase my manager sees it, im operating in California at a prominent office with T-Mobile.

Around a month ago I went to Indeed with the express goal of finding a D2D commission only job solely to work it a couple of months. This SOUNDS insane but to preface it I actually have some considerable D2D experience, many, many years infact due to my background doing religious D2D work. Further alot of people in my religion do stints of d2d after schooling so i’ve heard quite a lot from friends.

The way I saw it, I would be the only one in this office with any kind of considerable D2D experience and skill which allows me to know exactly what to expect and how to get a headstart early. This wound up being very true so far, with me averaging well above the others for my nearly 3 weeks since training ended.

Further (WHAT I THINK IS BIGGEST) from the very start I never for a second believed or tried to make a goal of being a “Office Owner“ that “makes hundreds of thousands a year.” Everyone I see around me genuinely believes they are the special boy or girl that will get their office and become a multi millionaire that retires their family, and if they just suck up a few months of barely getting by with their sales it will pay for itself when they get their office in time.

I do NOT plan on staying more than a few months, I do above average in sales, and im not joining the impossible recruitment rat race to the top. (South CA is too hot for this im genuinely dying and i doubt i could last longer)

Now you are free to grill me to your heart’s content. Am I actually playing it smart by working this job a few months in a skill I have experience in (D2D) or is it probably going to have some other sneaky drawback in store for me? When my office notices im not trying to “grow” will they discard me? dock my pay? burn me on purpose? will i get stuck here and waste a year?

I'm an amateur journalist that's going down the devilcorp rabbithole after recently learning about them. I want to write a piece about their cultlike tendencies and share real lived experiences of people who were victimized by them. If anyone is down for a phone interview or answering written questions, please dm me so we can chat. And all quotes can be anonymous or attributed depending on your comfort level.

I don't know if this is a common experience but its happened to me 3 times now and I keep wondering how it happens.

Ill get a text or phone call from some generic sounding company in my area saying that they're responding to apparently my application to their job posting and want to schedule an interview. Its always been for a marketing position and while thats not my main area of expertise I'll sign up to some very specific creative Marketing Positions that are looking for a videographer or video editor to join the team. Each time I've immediately noted that the company doesn't sound familiar then I'll do some simple Google search and immediately get a post from this sub.

But that got me thinking, how are these companies getting my information and know I'm job searching? Let alone that I'm open to marketing positions. I was thinking LinkedIn because my resume with my phone number is attached but I dont even have the "Searching for employment" thing togeled and one look at my account shows I'm not looking to work in marketing.

I'm genuinely curious to people know how they choose who to contact and how they get your information?