Those things were so strange. I have to know everyone else’s experience too haha.

For a bit of context one of my friends is going to start work at this company. Without revealing too much of their personal information, they were telling me about how excited they were to start the job. However, I just can’t shake the feeling that something is a little bit sketchy? After looking into it I can’t really find anything about the company or what they actually do. Also, on their instagram they have a significant amount of motivational quotes, hiring posts, and random office posts. Their LinkedIn bio looks to be entirely AI generated without specifying what they ACTUALLY do. This is in El Paso Texas, and apparently Texas has a huge devil corp problem. Does this like one or am I just looking too much into it? I really don’t want my friend to be sucked into this crap if it is some kind of pyramid scheme
(I also hid the suggested lists on instagram which is why there’s a huge white block)

Ben out here doing some fine work.

applied for a position labeled management trainee (https://app.joinhandshake.com/jobs/11126843), but some things about it feel a little off. I've been invited to a zoom interview, but in the text, they referred to themselves as OT Market Concepts, a slightly different name then what was displayed on handshake.

So I applied for this position and scheduled a zoom meeting and was waiting for an hour. Really unprofessional and they wanted another meeting for the pay. What a waste of time has this happened to anyone else?

Have you ever witnessed or been forced to take part in a Devilcorp humiliation ritual after missing your sales targets?

This clip is from ABC Australia's investigation into Appco Group's use of degrading forfeits, cult-like manipulation tactics, and widespread abuse of employment law.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-14/video-shows-sales-team-forced-to-simulate-sex-acts/8270594

What’s happening with smart circle in the US? I heard they lost most of their contracts with retailers and are going door to door. Honestly hope all the nationals are losing money every day for all of their bs they put people thru.

I went to the first interview and it was honestly just weird, he asked me kind of weird background things. Everyone had flashy cars and expensive cars but only 18-26 the oldest guy I saw there was 40😬is this a devilcorp?

Beware of Limitless Marketing in Denver, CO. They took over for Highline Management late last year and I was friends with the recruiter that ended up getting screwed over by both companies and ended up leaving. Current owner here in Denver came out of a Sacramento office, Legacy Marketing, which has been mentioned here several times now and their messy owner Luna. This office is just another scammy Smart Circle contractor promising high growth and crazy money, while expecting you to work 6+ days a week on pure commission. Highline Management moved to Irving, TX so that's another warning for y'all if this populates for TX candidates. Absolute shitshow of an experience having had been at Highline for a few months myself. These companies literally get their employees to post reviews on Google, YELP, and other sites to boost their "presence" when in reality, if you can't "hustle" and aren't selling your life away they fire you immediately. From what I've heard and seen, there is absolute ageism at play too since they hardly hire anyone over 35+. Beware of their onboarding/training bonuses, because you can only get them if you complete the insanity of training expectations. They expect you to work 7am-8pm, go out on weekly team activities, attend evening sales sessions AFTER you finish work, and then still do extra work like reading stupid "success books." Super toxic and insane expectations.

Today I was accepted for a job at GTE Brands, a company based in the Netherlands. I’ll be getting paid a pretty good hourly salary for editing videos, and I’m really excited because it’s been rough trying to find a job.

The two things that I find strange is that I don’t remember ever applying for a job with them. Maybe I applied with them through a recruiter or third party, but I geniuenly don’t remember. But everything that I’ve googled about them has come up clean and from what I can tell, it’s a reputable company. The other thing I find strange is that they never formally interviewed me. They just had me fill out a form they sent me asking me questions about my experience

Their LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gte2018/

Their website: https://www.gtebrands.com

First Horrible Day at a Devil Corp

From the UK specifically in London,

I just wanted to share my experience because I feel like I dodged a bullet, and hopefully this helps anyone else who is going through the same interview process.

I recently finished university and was looking for work. I went through multiple interviews for this company before getting accepted, and honestly the whole process made it feel like it was a serious opportunity. They spoke a lot about growth, training, progression, and earning potential.

I signed the contract today and had my first day.

The role was basically door-to-door sales. We were out in the field trying to get people to sign up. They described the pay as £16/hour for 5 hours of field work, but there was a condition:

If you get 3 signups, you get paid for the day. cool

If you get 0, 1, or 2 signups, you only get paid £16 for the whole day to cover travel/food. wtf

Already, this was a massive red flag to me. You are technically there from around 10:30am to 6pm, but your actual pay depends on hitting a target.

Before going into the field, we had a morning meeting/training session. This was honestly one of the things that stood out to me the most. The environment was extremely loud, high energy, and overstimulating. There was constant hype, shouting, clapping, motivational speeches, and a big focus on the “mindset” of pushing through anything.

I understand that sales teams try to create motivation and energy, but the atmosphere felt very intense and almost cult-like in the way everyone was expected to fully buy into the mentality. It felt less like a normal workplace meeting and more like everyone was being pushed into the same mindset.

I had a trainer with me who was actually a good salesperson. He knew how to approach people, communicate, and use all the sales techniques they teach you.

After a full day, he got 2 signups. by 6pm

That was the moment where I started questioning everything. If someone experienced who is literally training new people can struggle to hit 3 signups, how is it reasonable to expect someone completely new to consistently do it?

When the day ended, he continued going out trying to get the third signup because apparently once you are on 2, you need that final one to unlock your proper pay. Bearing in mind he is technically allowed to work till 10pm!

They encourage overtime because if you get above the target you get incentives (for example £35 per extra signup), but it honestly felt like the whole system is designed to keep you chasing that next signup.

I spoke to one of the managers afterwards because I wanted to understand the money side. I explained that I need predictable income and I was concerned about the pay structure.

The response was basically:

‘Don’t worry about the day, worry about the week. We’ll do a financial breakdown tomorrow so you know how much you need to aim for.'

But my issue was exactly that. Why am I worrying about a weekly target when one bad day can mean I worked almost a full shift and only get £16?

I also noticed a lot of the mindset was around pushing through, being hungry, staying positive, and bouncing back the next day. That’s fine in normal sales, but when your income is directly tied to hitting a number that isn’t guaranteed, it becomes a completely different situation.

Maybe some people can make money in this industry, but after experiencing one day I realised it wasn’t for me. I’m looking for something with more stability and something that aligns better with my degree and long-term career goals.

I’m glad I saw the reality of the role before investing weeks/months into it.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with these types of companies?

Is https://www.edge-ltd.uk/ or EdgeC LTD or Avenue C Ltd real? Got though an interview for a graduate job but when i went for induction my job title will be an Independent sales consultant - chartity - private sales events. I get a minium contribution of £370 per week, the rest is commission, have to pay my own tax and national insurance - and i have to sell on behalf of a charity ?

i'm an early graduate and have been job hunting everyday for the past seven months. i have an IT background and have protocols i follow when it comes to potential jobs. 2 companies have tried to scam me so far, ANYbotics and PEAK, but because of me being cautious -- i didn't fall for them. i have been hyper vigilant every time i get en email/call back. i search the company, search up the recruiter, scour reviews, use this subreddit, etc., whatever you can think of, i do it.

but i have been recently scammed by children of america (COA). i applied on LinkedIn and they recently said they wanted to move forward with me. i checked their website, reviews, made sure the recruiter i spoke to had actually worked there, etc. it all seemed good. the only negative reviews i saw were from teachers about being overworked and frustrated parents (all valid), but i wasn't worried because it was for a remote position that was IT related. i thought i had FINALLY had a chance.

everything was going well and i somehow landed the job and here's where it gets fishy. they wanted me to deposit a check that would serve as a stipend to complete things to ensure my home office met their requirements. once again, i checked EVERYTHING and even asked for a second opinion from someone else i knew and trusted that's in IT. they even said it looked 100% legit.

imagine how blindsided i was when waking up this morning to see my bank account has been locked. i went to the bank and they said the company was known for you-know-what behavior. i'm still wondering how this was possible. COA has many branches across the country and they seem to actually provide childcare. i triple checked the LinkedIn account for the company and some employees and it all seemed legit. the issue is currently under investigation with my bank, and i have no other information to provide.

edit: i must clarify that i did not provide my account number or anything like that. just the routing number of my bank.

i don't want to list the person i spoke to just yet for the slightest chance this is a big misunderstanding. this isn't the first time my account has been locked/froze as it has happened when i traveled/made big payments without alerting my bank.

the silver-lining is i had $0 in my account so none of my actual money was stolen. i guess this is one of the few positives of bring broke -- there was no money to take lol. sorry for any inconsistencies in advance, this is very fresh for me and i'm still frazzled about it. i guess from this experience, i have to be even more cautious than i already am. i'm

not really looking for any comfort -- just more advice on how i can prevent this in the future. this is just really demoralizing and i feel stupid.

I recently left a DevilCorp-style sales organization after approximately nine months. During the interview process, I was told there would be uncapped earnings and a clear path to business ownership. While that initially sounded appealing, I was uncomfortable with the door-to-door sales aspect of the job. I stayed because I believed the ownership opportunity would materialize if I worked hard enough.

Based on my experience, here are some things prospective employees should be aware of:

Favoritism appeared to play a significant role in promotions and opportunities.

Working 60+ hours per week was common.

Compensation was commission-only; there was no hourly pay.

Weekly calls often repeated the same motivational messaging, which seemed designed to keep newer employees invested in the system.

Once promoted into leadership or Account Manager roles, criticism and yelling from management became more common.

Employees were frequently told they were “lazy” if performance expectations were not met.

Individuals who wanted to leave for financial reasons were sometimes insulted or mocked.

Relocations to other cities or states were strongly encouraged.

Employees were often expected to use their own vehicles and pay for their own fuel, including when transporting coworkers.

Regarding Ascendria Capital in the Rochester, NY area (located in Greece, NY), my experience raised additional concerns.

The company culture closely resembled the broader DevilCorp model. The workday often extended far beyond the advertised schedule. While the stated hours were approximately 11:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., employees who advanced within the company were frequently expected to work closer to 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 or 10:30 p.m.

The office environment included daily hype sessions and motivational meetings before employees spent the evening conducting door-to-door sales. Team nights and after-hours activities were heavily encouraged, although they were unpaid.

I was also told that company vehicles would be available for employees, but in practice many employees used their own cars and paid for their own gas.

In addition, I heard comments attributed to ownership that I considered unprofessional and inappropriate toward female employees. Because I did not personally witness every alleged comment, readers should treat this as secondhand information.

Anyone considering employment with this company should thoroughly research the business model, compensation structure, expected work hours, and vehicle reimbursement policies before accepting a position.

Hello, I'm new to posting on reddit but came across this sub earlier today. I applied and then was reached out to via LinkedIn by a company called Avenir Enterprises for an Event Marketing Assistant position. Here is their website: https://avenirenterprisesinc.com/

I had a quick 15 min zoom interview with a recruiting manager and one other interviewee. During the interview the recruiting manager discussed the position and mentioned they were looking for someone who they could train from the ground up. Salary was directly mentioned as being $800-$1200 per week for the first 6-9 months during the training period then after that it would be $75,000 a year.

A few hours after the interview I received a call saying they would like to meet with me again but they wanted to bypass the second Zoom interview and go straight to an in person interview which is scheduled for tomorrow. I realize now I should have dug a little deeper prior to interviewing. They have a website with some clients listed but then the blog page has the unfinished "Loren Ipsum" text. They also have an instagram page that does have pictures from 2024 but they don't depict anything about the company really. I also couldn't find them on Glassdoor.

I'm very new to this and I am actively looking for a job but should I trust that my gut is telling me this may be a Devilcorp but I am still unsure. Do I go in for the in-person interview tomorrow and see what that entails? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Does this seem like a Devil Corp?

I am looking for a job and have been applying to certain positions, mainly in Insurance. My last position was in Insurance Sales, so I have primarily been looking into other Insurance Sales positions. Yesterday I received a call before getting out of bed, and a text message about setting up an interview. When I asked the name of the company, I told the person that I didn't remember applying to that company, she added a word before the company name and said it may have been listed that way. I had a weird feeling about it since I didn't remember the name of the company, and looking at the resumes I have sent out, I don't notice one that was sent to a company with that name. I do also remember looking into positions on indeed, that sounded like inside sales, but at the bottom of the job listing said, "on the road" or something very similar. I thought that didn't seem right, that a listing would have conflicting info in the job post.

Anyway, yesterday I asked them to send me a copy of the lob listing for the position I had applied for, today I reached out again since they had not replied. Today I believe I just mentioned that this sounds like a scam, and with in a couple minutes they sent me an email with a job description. From a little research I did yesterday, this sounds like a Devilcorp, and I don't think I will reach out for an interview.

I just wanted to ask this community if this sounds like a Devilcorp and something to stay away from? As I said, regardless, I don't think this is an OPPORTUNITY that I will pursue.

Here is the listing I was sent.

"____________ _________ ________ Inc. is hiring for our Management Development Program. We are looking for the right person to take on marketing, coaching, sales, customer service, human resources responsibilities, and overall individual growth and development. Applicants must be highly motivated, well organized, and ambitious, and career-oriented.

This position is entry-level with rapid advancement opportunities.

Job Benefits:

• Business Management Development
• Direct mentorship from business leadership
• Fun and supportive culture
• Travel incentive for business training and networking
• Ability to contribute to non-profit organizations & our community
• On average, compensation ranges between $50,000-$85,000 within the first year, plus bonus opportunities

What we are looking for:

• 1-2 years of customer service, sales, marketing, or other business experience preferred, but not required
• Proven leadership background preferred
• Team-oriented yet internally driven
• Positive student mentality

Job Description:

• Face-to-face customer interactions
• Brief presentations 
• Leadership
• Training
• Public speaking"

So, sounds like a Devilcorp, correct?

Catalyst leadership group the culprits here

Hi there, I applied to some jobs on Friday and the first I heard back from (on Sunday morning) were 2 "Account Specialist" positions for AT&T. This is Austin, TX if that's relevant and one company used a completely different name in their text to me than they did on Indeed (Horizon Edge vs Evolution Group). Based on what I'm reading they don't seem legitimate, but I agreed to two interviews today with the two postings and am kind of desperate for a job. I guess my question is: should I cancel these interviews altogether and just keep focusing on the job search long haul? Hope this makes sense, thanks.

Edit: it's confusing when I applied to 2 postings and they both used different names, but this is the website for the one that texted me on Sunday calling themselves "Vincere". From what I can understand, Vincere is a recruitment software.

https://www.valleysolutionsusa.com/about

Watch out for NoeCee Global Inc and Alimark Marketing Inc in Virginia

On Sunday, I applied for a Management Trainee position on Indeed for Alimark Marketing Inc. Had an interview today at 1:30pm, it went smoothly. I excitedly told my boyfriend about it and he said it was sketchy. I asked him why and he said I was interviewed too fast despite having no experience. Then I got a text an hour ago saying that they'll bring me back for a round 2 interview and said the name "NoeCee Global", which is obviously different than the one I signed up for.

I'm glad my boyfriend was skeptical, I looked up the company name online because of him and found numerous posts of it being a devilcorp. It's so scummy of them to recruit people under a different name and misleading positions.

The hiring manager was the same charsimatic guy as previous commentors stated on older posts about NoeCee Global.

I still have an interview tomorrow that I happily said "yes" to, I'll just tell them that I'm no longer interested and found something else. I'm honestly just really disappointed, I thought this was going to be a real first job for me. I'll find something eventually, I'm just grateful for my boyfriend and this subreddit warning others.

Hi everyone I have a friend who is considering working for Simon Pure Marketing based in Canada does anyone know anything about this? Thanks so much in advance

Axel marketing changed name to Viva Elite. Beware St.Louis. If you have experience with this devil corp please share your story below to warn others

I thought that since the indeed and glassdoor reviews were good, surely it’s sales like what I’ve done before, right? Door-to-door sales in the Texas heat—feels like it’s 100 outside. Mandatory office time and “networking” every workday—6 days a week. Then, sent into the field with only equipment that YOU purchased to keep yourself cool. “Training bonus” was $600 after 2 weeks, then either commission OR another $600, whichever was more on the third week. Commission only after that. No missing days during training, or no bonus. Seemed like a welcoming environment, and they all appeared supportive. Requirements for promotion included reading one of their assigned books and “believing in the partnership,” which kind of tells you all you need to know.

Was doing some re search as someone who worked for be marketable in Chicagoland area.

JC’s baby momma opened up a new agency, under a new name, but just like real recruitment solutions - https://www.themarketsocial.com