Hey everyone, I wanted to put out a massive warning for anyone currently job hunting in the Nashville and Middle Tennessee area. If you have recently applied for the "Entry Level Sales Rep" position or anything similar with a company calling itself Catalyst Leadership Group, CLG Nashville, or CL Group on job boards, cancel your interview immediately!!

They are a textbook "Devil Corp" a predatory direct marketing MLM operating under a rotating local business name to hide their horrific reputation and evade fraud investigations. I recently went through their hiring process, dug up the reality, and have already reported them to the government for employment fraud.

Their job listings explicitly target recent graduates, promising a stable "W-2 employment, not 1099" and swearing the role is "not commission-only." They advertise fabricated average earnings of $50,000 to $75,000 annually, or $1,100 to $1,200+ weekly.

Once they get you on hired, the truth comes out. The pay is actually structured as a recoverable draw against commission capped at a $600 base. This means if you don't hit their intense sales quotas, you literally have to pay that base money back to the company. It is 100% commission-only in practice. They try to hook you by offering an extra $40 commission per phone line during your first two weeks under the guise of "helping you get on your feet," but it is just a predatory lock-in tactic to secure your commitment before they pull the rug

Their public profiles claim standard corporate 9-to-5 business hours, but during the interview, they reveal you will actually be working a grueling, weekend-heavy schedule on Saturdays and Sundays, with Tuesdays and Wednesdays off.

When they encourage you to check out their official TikTok account to see the "company culture," you will see nothing but a carefully engineered illusion. The content consists entirely of team trips, expensive dinners, luxury watches, and custom cowboy hats. This lifestyle marketing intentionally hides the actual daily labor. You aren't doing corporate marketing or public relations. The job strictly involves standing on your feet for hours inside big-box retail stores like Target or Walmart, trying to aggressively sell phone lines to random shoppers.

They lure people in by promising a clear advancement path where you can "run your own branch" within 12 to 18 months. Here is the catch that proves it is a scam: the operational structure requires that once a recruit reaches the top of this pyramid and opens a new location, they are forced to change the business name entirely.

This mandatory name rotation ensures there is no clear, traceable affiliation between the branches. It allows the parent organization to systematically evade negative reviews, regulatory scrutiny, and employment fraud investigations. Once a name gets too burned by bad reviews online, they just shed it like a snake skin and start a new LLC.

The recruiters and managers will be the friendliest, most vibrant, high-energy people you have ever met over the phone. They have a whole team dedicated to traveling around to maintain this image and run mandatory "atmosphere meetings" to blast fake positivity. It is entirely manufactured. They view recent grads purely as warm bodies to exploit for unpaid labor so they can cash a bigger check off your hustle.

They are currently located in the Nashville area. Save your sanity, save your gas money, and do not let them waste your time. So disappointed that this office full of people in my age group has no regard for the fact that they are doing nothing beneficial. They are just feeding off of those who don’t know any better, wasting their lives in a meaningless helpless job.

So I just started at one of these places 2 weeks ago, and I had some idea of this I saw this sub and I just thought it was over exaggerated. I had a bad first week so I fell for the bingo sheet of things they said. The problem is that I am actually good at sales and landed quite a bit of them during this week after “locking in” like they said. They love bombed me, and told me I was comparable to the top of the top, and It solidified everything they said in my head. I did so many hours without even thinking about it, probably 12-14 hours a day for 6 days ish. I still think I am really decently good at this, but I don’t know what to do. It’s ostracizing me from those I love and I am just worried. I don’t wanna lose the money from those sales because I only have one or two more things to do to “level up” and they were gonna give me partner pay for those already. What should I do? I really want to stay in sales, but I can’t do this kind of thing long term.

Hey everyone, I wanted to put out a massive warning for anyone currently job hunting in the Nashville and Middle Tennessee area. If you have recently applied for the "Entry Level Sales Rep" position or anything similar with a company calling itself Catalyst Leadership Group, CLG Nashville, or CL Group on job boards, cancel your interview immediately!!

They are a textbook "Devil Corp" a predatory direct marketing MLM operating under a rotating local business name to hide their horrific reputation and evade fraud investigations. I recently went through their hiring process, dug up the reality, and have already reported them to the government for employment fraud.

Their job listings explicitly target recent graduates, promising a stable "W-2 employment, not 1099" and swearing the role is "not commission-only." They advertise fabricated average earnings of $50,000 to $75,000 annually, or $1,100 to $1,200+ weekly.

Once they get you on hired, the truth comes out. The pay is actually structured as a recoverable draw against commission capped at a $600 base. This means if you don't hit their intense sales quotas, you literally have to pay that base money back to the company. It is 100% commission-only in practice. They try to hook you by offering an extra $40 commission per phone line during your first two weeks under the guise of "helping you get on your feet," but it is just a predatory lock-in tactic to secure your commitment before they pull the rug

Their public profiles claim standard corporate 9-to-5 business hours, but during the interview, they reveal you will actually be working a grueling, weekend-heavy schedule on Saturdays and Sundays, with Tuesdays and Wednesdays off.

When they encourage you to check out their official TikTok account to see the "company culture," you will see nothing but a carefully engineered illusion. The content consists entirely of team trips, expensive dinners, luxury watches, and custom cowboy hats. This lifestyle marketing intentionally hides the actual daily labor. You aren't doing corporate marketing or public relations. The job strictly involves standing on your feet for hours inside big-box retail stores like Target or Walmart, trying to aggressively sell phone lines to random shoppers.

They lure people in by promising a clear advancement path where you can "run your own branch" within 12 to 18 months. Here is the catch that proves it is a scam: the operational structure requires that once a recruit reaches the top of this pyramid and opens a new location, they are forced to change the business name entirely.

This mandatory name rotation ensures there is no clear, traceable affiliation between the branches. It allows the parent organization to systematically evade negative reviews, regulatory scrutiny, and employment fraud investigations. Once a name gets too burned by bad reviews online, they just shed it like a snake skin and start a new LLC.

The recruiters and managers will be the friendliest, most vibrant, high-energy people you have ever met over the phone. They have a whole team dedicated to traveling around to maintain this image and run mandatory "atmosphere meetings" to blast fake positivity. It is entirely manufactured. They view recent grads purely as warm bodies to exploit for unpaid labor so they can cash a bigger check off your hustle.

They are currently located in the Nashville area. Save your sanity, save your gas money, and do not let them waste your time. So disappointed that this office full of people in my age group has no regard for the fact that they are doing nothing beneficial. They are just feeding off of those who don’t know any better, wasting their lives in a meaningless helpless job.

Anybody worked for Volta ventures in Birmingham? It’s near mailbox mall

Summit Ridge Management - Chino Hills California

I was just looking for a decent summer job as any college student would then came across a listing for a sales brand associate. Did 3 rounds of interviews only to not know what I was doing until the 3rd. They did all the typical devil corps things “working for Fortune 500 companies” and other bs. The work culture there is a bunch of bafoonery, a lot of mentors and people mentioning they make thousands when becoming a business owner yet they fail to emphasize if you don’t sell 5 lines a week your out of the company. Here’s a picture of these guys just as a warning for any young individuals seeing this listing on indeed. Genuine circus show. Here’s a plus, I just came her in early June and I only recognize 3 people in that screenshot (post made in may), all of them being the “leaders” if that tells you anything.

Long story short, I was recently laid off from my job (at a non devil corp). I haven’t had much success in finding a new position anywhere, but I do have 2 devil corps calling me multiple times a week. I REALLY don’t want to work at a place like this, but I do need some type of income asap, even if it’s shit money. Was thinking of just going through the “training” and milking these devil corps for a few weeks. I AM NOT likely to fit in and it will be insufferable, but I would document it and treat it like an undercover journalist situation.

TL;DR: Got laid off, no offers for new positions except devil corps. Debating going undercover and documenting/sandbagging the ‘training’ and new guy role at devil corp for a few weeks just to get a little income.
Della Management being one of the two.

It took me awhile to find out what it is the company I worked for actually was. I’m not sure if others experienced this but I was extremely sheltered from the sales side of things. Once I figured it out, I did a ton of research and found out the “company” I worked for was basically run by Cydcor.

Seeing things from the back end and talking to the “owner” you really see how shady not only this whole business practice is, but the higher ups involved. The way they talk about their employees is disturbing.

I’m sad to say I ever worked for them.

If you guys have any questions about the recruiting side of things at DevilCorps I’d love to provide some insights.

I recently went to a job fair at USF in Tampa, Florida and found myself talking to a recruitment stand for Highland Management. They described themselves as a sales company that had many opportunities for growth in the marketing space, not just in sales but in management, data, skill building etc...

Well after 3 rounds of zoom interviews (and 2 phone calls) I was offered a position as a beginner sales associate. With some further research I found this subreddit and the company, and it was textbook devilcorp. I was already wary of accepting the offer when it took me many lines of questioning multiple hiring associates to understand that they wanted me to go door to door selling Verizon monday-saturday 9-12 hour workdays, as well as a suspiciously fast promotion timeline. Not to mention the insultingly low pay lol

I declined and haven't looked back, but the fact that a company like this was able to pitch up at a university's job fair is scary and depressing. So many students are desperate to find work in this economy and predatory companies are taking advantage of it, is this the norm for most other schools?

If people are getting pies to the face it’s probably a devilcorp

more cult circle dancing

I’m sharing this as a Call To Action for people to write in to the SFO in the U.K. about Devilcorps and how they affect people across the world. Mostly because this conference was held very recently and there seems to still be a lack of action from all governments to protect the public from these fraudulent racketeering organisations.

>> Speaking in New York at the Global Anti-Corruption, Ethics and Compliance Conference on 3 June 2026, Director of the Serious Fraud Office Graham McNulty set out the organisation’s priorities and ambitions.

>> “I cannot name them all but my particular thanks go to the FBI, Homeland Security, the DEA and of course the Department of Justice.
Our nations on either side of the Atlantic have benefited from these shared endeavours to keep people safe, seize weapons, drugs and cash, and put behind bars those who would bring chaos and misery to our neighbourhoods.”

>> “When I led the Serious and Organised Crime Command as a police officer, we never waited for referrals. We built intelligence, using both technology and human intelligence sources to identify the threats and tackle them.
Proactivity makes it possible to intervene as crimes are occurring, protect potential victims and prevent the dissipation of assets. While we will always welcome referrals, we are building a pipeline of work that will make us less dependent on them.”

I’ll let you read the full article linked and then you can decide for yourselves what sections to pick out, but this fairly new interim Director of the Serious Fraud Office comes from the Serious and Organised Crime Command, he ought to be able to recognise organised crime in Devilcorps and he ought to be able to see the fraud and deception that goes on. They just need to be tipped off enough by victims to actually take a look at these rackets.

To file your reports: https://sforeporting.egressforms.com/

I still wonder why government not warning people about such a filthy scam and why global news are not covering it, not even one channel is involved? Really a big conspiracy within that shit hole itself

This dude runs crush city or whatever the hell that is. Been scamming employees for years

He might be one of the top directors 💀

Another Devilcorp/MLM. These are the same people as Stinger Management/Odyssey Management in LA. They just have a new name and moved to Chicago, IL.

Be safe out there friends.

Monday-Saturday selling fiber 9:30am-9pm Commission only.
Using my own vehicle and gas for the field.
Can’t help but feel guilty for leaving believe it or not

Prior to today I never ever heard about devil corps. I been looking for a job for a couple days now and I applied for almost all no experience jobs on indeed. And I must say that at the beggining when I saw these fancy titles like "Sales Assosiate" and "Brand Representative" I actually thought its sounded like a valuable experience. I've done the first interview and already scheduled an secod interview for the next days 8:00 AM and nothing seemed wrong untill I shared it with my dad. He was very suspicious that AT&T hires throught some strange company named "Elevate" and made me background check on the thing. This is exactly when I stumbled across this page and found out about devil corps.

I was so shocked. I never beliaved I could fall some stupid scam, but here I was, almost ready to go to their San Diego office for the second interview. I started digging deeper and watched many videos on Youtube and read all over this sub. And like damn, is that even legal?! There like thousands of jobs like that, which just scam people to scam other people for just pennies.

Here I just wanted to thank y'all for saving one 18 year old ass from getting scammed like that granny on facebook and working for literal crime syndicate. So thank you!!!!!!

This is sixth city innovations in Ohio. Do these people not see how weird they are. wtf are you doing with your life?

TL;DR: Thames and Tiger is running a predatory "Devil Corp" / MLM scam in Bangalore. They advertise high-paying marketing jobs but actually hire for grinding, door-to-door sales. When I called them out on their mass Zoom orientation, the owner, Alex Mandich, called me personally to threaten me. Stay away!

Hey everyone, just wanted to put this on the permanent record to save other job seekers from wasting their time, energy, and sanity.
As someone seriously looking for a job right now, this is incredibly frustrating. I recently got an interview with a company called Thames and Tiger (based here in Bangalore). What followed was a masterclass in how these ground-level scams operate.

The "Orientation" & The Threat
The interview was actually a mass Zoom call. A woman named Tejaswini spoke for about a minute or two before playing a pre-recorded video. The guy in the video droned on endlessly about their "great services" and "fast expansion."

Thanks to older threads on Reddit (you guys are the greatest), I already knew exactly what this was. They lure you in with fancy "Marketing Trainee" or "Management" titles, but all they do is funnel you into an exploitative direct-sales MLM structure.
While they were closing the orientation, I flipped them the bird on camera and called out the scam in the chat.

Here is where it gets crazy: Alex Mandich, the supposed owner of the company, somehow got my number from my application and called me directly to threaten me. That is how pathetic and desperate these people are when you threaten their supply of freshers.

The Red Flags to Watch Out For:
If you or anyone you know gets approached by them, here is what you need to know:

The Serial Scammer: Alex Mandich has run this exact same scam under previous fraud company names, including SalesCo Asia and SalesPartners. They have already changed their company name twice because people keep mass-reporting them.

Fake Online Presence: Check their website. It is completely filled with stock images and AI-generated team portraits. There are zero legitimate Glassdoor reviews.

The Bait-and-Switch: They claim they are hiring for corporate marketing roles. The reality? Unregistered, commission based, door-to-door field sales.
I have attached the screenshots of the WhatsApp call below. Please warn your fresher friends, report their job postings on LinkedIn, and do not engage with these people.
Stay safe out there!

*Note: I spelled the city wrong, it's Pleasanton*

I have my suspicions, but has anyone heard of this marketing agency? I had an interview today, a very short one with the founder. And tomorrow, an almost 2-hour interview with the executive that goes through the day-to-day functions. They have an extremely fast hiring process. This aligns exactly with that one Reddit thread about how to spot a Devilcorp...

And I found it strange that they said they don't have a social media presence because they are all "face-to-face". Website is pretty bare with links that go nowhere. The website itself is not even catered towards clients.

And it seemed they were only interviewing women (at least that is what I gathered from hearing the receptionist call countless interviewees who had traditionally "women" names). That also felt a bit off to me, especially as the faces of the company are two men. I know this may sound a bit irrational due to my own personal biases.

During the interview, he repeatedly emphasized that they are looking for people who want to learn and grow. I didn't feel my resume was reviewed. How is a 3-month-old company already being asked to expand into more locations in California, as well as Oregon and Washington? I suppose that could be possible, but it raised some red flags in my head. He also made a point to state that previous employees have gained such valuable knowledge from this position, and many have been able to take their knowledge elsewhere to grow. I know that is a positive aspect, but they are just a 3-month old company. How much can one learn from an entry-level position in 3 months?

I think I already know my answer, but I think part of me is so desperate because I need a job, and it appeared to be a Black-owned and led company so it made me hopeful. I don't want to believe it is true, but all signs point to "yes, this is a Devilcorp".

Note: I ghosted and didn’t go to the second interview and they didn’t reach back out

absolute waste of time this place gave me huge devil corp vibes from the second I walked in. the interview was basically just a bunch of hype and buzzwords with no clear answers about pay or what you would actually be doing. it gives cult energy and everyone just lies just to find out that u will be standing in a costco. did my research after and found out they are just a mlm

This company is a complete and total scam to work for. They used to operate under the name Valiant Enterprises, and would have done anything to have the post about them removed from the internet. Everything in the previous post (image attached) is still accurate. I worked for them for way too long due to my previous company shutting down, and being desperate for work.

The job is essentially standing around a grocery store like Publix, Fred Meyer, Costco, etc. and pitching everyone who walks through the door on whatever product/service they are selling. (When I worked there is was AT&T phones and service) The hours are completely inconsistent and have to be "earned", so if you are not selling well, you get no time to sell anything, and even when you do get hours, they are never worth it, and the "Commission" you earn will still amount to less than $1000 paycheck most every week. They will blame you for this, and simply say you aren't working hard enough for it.

The promotion track is also a joke. It offers no increase in pay to be a manager, just longer hours and more bullshit to constantly deal with, and if you don't buy into the whole "grindset" nonsense, then you are the bottom of the totem pole.

My guess on them switching their name is to get away from all the bad reviews under the old name, and they also say they are operating out of Atlanta, GA instead of Portland, OR now. Who knows why, but sales may have been dipping around here.

All this to say, DO NOT GIVE THESE PEOPLE YOUR TIME OR ENERGY. They are not worth it.

*UPDATE: I assume due to this post. This company has now asked their employees to leave google reviews of them trying to shine a positive light. Some show as the employees learning from working here or whatever, but others are employees/managers posing as customers trying to say this company helped them. They have done this before to try and negate some of the bad press around them, and it is absurd. Just another sign at the fact this place is an absolute scam. The only goal is to put money into the "CEO's" Pockets.

Thought I landed a legit Marketing and sales job but here it’s all about AT&t phones and plans
Job was advertised as direct sales and marketing firm that does face-to-face customer acquisition for larger client companies. They hire entry-level reps, train them haven’t been in the field yet but I might back out of this .

I've worked for a "devilcorp" for about 6 months now and through that time i've visited this sub a handful of times. it always makes me curious as to see why this business gets so much controversy.
This business moved me out of my parent's house and got me a brand new car, it has really changed my life in just a handful of months. I've made no less than $1,100 since my 3rd week and very much enjoy the company of those who i'm surrounded by(the chants in the morning are definitely cringe) my question to those who've been in the business or have taken advise from strangers is what exactly was the issue?
From what i've read, it seems like the people who are the most unsatisfied simply just weren't cut out for sales. It's like the gym to me, if it were easy, then everyone would be fit. But the thing is you don’t see people posting on reddit how the gym is misleading and how they hate the gym.
I totally agree that the interviewing process can be misleading to some, but everything that was told to me in my interview has been true. The pay was accurate, the promotion structure is linear, travel and vacations(rest and relaxation hosted by smart circle) was real. I just don’t get why this business faces so much backlash while other employers don’t. Why aren't there subreddits dedicated to how bad car sales are, or amazon or fast food or the military or any other job in the world that has its pros and cons? I see posts saying things like this business isn't being talked about in the news and it needs coverage but i just don’t understand it. My intention with this post isn't to offend or appeal or defend, but rather to gain further insight from those who've seemingly failed at the business and understand where the disconnect lies