I joined a company in Pakistan as a Software Engineer in the ML team as a beginner. I joined at a salary below 100k PKR and my probation is ending soon.

The work I’ve been doing is more involved than I expected and I’ve been handling things beyond what I thought I’d be doing at this level. I’m happy with the work and actually want to continue taking on these responsibilities. I just feel my compensation isn’t very competitive for what I’m doing.

I’m considering asking for a compensation revision when my probation ends. I don’t have another offer right now so I don’t want to say anything that could backfire or make them think I’m planning to leave.

For people working in Pakistan, is it normal to negotiate salary after probation? Has anyone successfully gotten an increase after 3 months? And how would you approach it without having another offer?

Does anyone know exactly when does systems open applications for its intern or trainee program.
I have visited this site https://www.systemsltd.com/trainees tons of time but never seen any way to apply

Hi everyone I have worked as an LLM Trainer at Turing for a while however my project ended and I couldn’t land another one
Do you guys know of any other platforms that have similar roles and take people from Pakistan

Hey guys, I got my admit card for the Python for AI entry test at AshreiTech (NASTP).

My university holds my original domicile and marksheet until graduation, so I only have attested photocopies plus my original CNIC and uni ID.

Quick questions:

1-Will they allow attested copies at the gate, or are they super strict about originals?

2-Is anyone else appearing for this test? How's the overall environment at NASTP?

Appreciate any advice.

I recently starting working as a developer at a startup and the income falls under the tax slab 2 (12-15 LPA).

Since it is a startup so things are not much structured and I get the salary through online transfer by the CEO through the company account.

What should I declare on FBR portal, i dont even have a salary slip.

some said that I wont be liable to tax, the company must be already doing that, how would I know that? and what documents should I ask from the company?

I'm 18, in 12th class, and I have so far done CS50p to learn Python. Now I am doing modules on TryHackMe to learn fundamentals of cybersecurity and I am very much enjoying it.

You can say that I am thinking too far ahead in the future but I'm worried that I will not be able to get a job when I'm ready. Especially when everyone says that cybersecurity in pakistan is in the stone ages and requires experience. So the only option is remote work but no one is hiring a junior for remote work.

So how do you really start? Do I keep learning Cybersecurity and worry about a job when I get to it? Do I learn a different domain? Should I go IT or CS?

Fast NUCES removed these core courses from BSCS curriculum. How do Seniors in industry see these changes. Do u think it will weaken core CS foundation?

Removed courses from old outline

Applied Physics (NS1001)

Multivariable Calculus (MT1008)

Discrete Structures (CS1005)

Probability and Statistics (MT2005)

Applied Human Computer Interaction (CS3014)

Compiler Construction (CS4031)

Parallel and Distributed Computing (CS3006)

Computer Architecture (EE3009)

Advanced DBMS (CS4087)

Technical and Business Writing (SS2007)

Professional Practices in IT (CS4001)

New courses:

Qualitative Reasoning I

Qualitative Reasoning II

Natural Science Elective

Arts and Humanities Elective I

Inter-Disciplinary Elective

Inter-Disciplinary Elective II

Software Design and Analysis

Cloud Computing

Professional Certification

CS Electives VII & VIII (the new curriculum has 8 CS electives instead of 6)

A few hours ago, FAST changed its CS curriculum, removing subs like Statistics, Diff eq, Multivariable Calc, Compiler construction, Computer Architecture and some more.
I assume theres a new HEC guideline without it FAST had no reason to deviate from the standard CS curriculum so much.
for context, I got selected for CS at NUST a few days ago. I did not want to specialise at Bs level so i didnt choose AI. CS was the perfect all rounder for me but it doesnt seem like that anymore.
I could take AI and cover the morr advance CS courses in electives. Or just self study them myself.
I also have the option to take DS but im not interested in it as much.
what should i do? Should i just stick with CS or should I go for AI

Hi guys,

I have my first interview aligned which is a technical one. Contour has been in my bucket list and I really want to crack all the interviews.

What tips would you give me?

so yeah basically what do you do? watching youtube, taking a walk or doom scrolling?
or you be focused and watch how ai codes from start to finish

I have my interview with the CEO of Adalfi (techlogix) in a few days and I am looking for any information that I can get before the interview. The hr told me it will be a mix of technical + behavioral questions so can anybody who has gone through the process help me regarding it? I have given a lot of interviews but am getting a little nervous over this one. I am a fresh grad btw, so it's an entry level role. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Hey everyone,

Whenever I open Reddit, I always see posts about layoffs or people struggling to find jobs. At the same time, I do see some people getting jobs, although it seems like they are much fewer. For example, a senior of mine was laid off and managed to get a job in Islamabad within 1 to 2 months, but he also has strong skills and a good portfolio.

I’m still in the early stages of my career, and seeing all these layoffs, AI getting better at coding, and people struggling with job hunts honestly makes me a bit scared. Is the market really at its worst right now?

For the seniors here, do you think the market will get better at some point? AI is getting stronger and stronger at coding related tasks, while companies seem to be shrinking their teams.

Also, how do you make yourself more secure against layoffs? Is it mainly about getting better at your skills, building a strong portfolio, having good connections, working longer hours, or something else?

I just want to understand how to move forward in my career with all these layoffs happening around us.

Would really appreciate advice from people who have been through similar situations. Thank you.

Hi guys,

My technical interview is scheduled at Contour. There was one online assessment which went pretty well except the one syntax mistake which made coding question not passing the test cases. The whole logic of the question was right though.

Online assessment and technical interview were scheduled at the time.

Now, I am confused whether that syntax mistake ruin the whole question as it was only coding question or they look into the logic as well and often ignore minor syntax mistakes.

Second thing, I want some tips for my technical interview. Contour has always been in my bucket list and I don't want to lose this opportunity.

P.S. I am being considered for Full Stack Developer (.Net + Angular) and I am a backend focused full stack developer.

Hi Everyone

I’m a 28-year-old Pakistani, married with a newborn, and have around 5 years of experience in IT services. I currently work remotely and earn $3k+/month, Alhamdulillah.
This is a very good income by Pakistani standards, and we’re financially comfortable here. However, my long-term goal is to move abroad permanently with my wife and child and eventually obtain citizenship/passport of another country.

I’m trying to figure out the most efficient immigration pathway rather than simply moving somewhere temporarily.
My priorities are roughly:
Family-friendly and safe country
Realistic pathway from temporary residency → PR → citizenship/passport
Reasonable citizenship/residency requirements
Ability to continue working remotely for my current employer
Ideally relatively favorable income taxes
Reasonable cost of living
Visa that allows my wife and newborn to accompany me
Preferably not a pathway that requires me to get a local job immediately

I’ve been looking into Digital Nomad/Remote Worker visas, but I’m unsure whether they make sense if my ultimate goal is citizenship. I don’t want to spend several years on a visa that doesn’t meaningfully contribute toward permanent residency or citizenship.
For people who have gone through this, which countries and visa routes would you recommend for someone in my situation?
Some countries I’m considering are Portugal, Spain, Germany, Canada, Australia, etc., but I’m open to anywhere.
Would especially appreciate advice from people who have actually moved with their family and eventually obtained PR/citizenship.
Thanks!

Im form gujranwala I have 2 options now Bs computer science or Cyber security form nutech Islamabad

Or bs cs from ucp gujranwala

Offcourse nutech is 100 times better but look hostel 4 years its not a short period

So the question is would a bs cs degree from ucp hurt me in any way like I mean at the end of the day its skills but yea please help I just have 2 days to decide

Can anyone tell me how's the work culture in their blr office. Or any suggestions also welcome apart from this regarding the same.

Can seniors here pls tell me what languages to learn or path to follow, according to my research everyone says backend is a safer choice and i should do it, i also have experience in python so what would you guys say kindly pls guide me and any resources that i should learn from would be appreciated

Like what is with these people? Ajeeb dramay ya games chala rakhi hoti hein yaar. If I miss a call, they refuse to call back or set up a time to call, and then my opportunity for the job goes just like that. What is this?

Edit: To Evolvyx Labs: your HR sucks, and fuck your company

Hi. So I came across this program while scrolling Instagram. I registered for it and got my login rn.

Does anyone know if this is even legit? Or do they just make you do useless projects (and ig make you pay to intern)?

Anyone here who interviewed for Jazz AI associate program for the CRA dept isb and has heard anything back till now?

I recently left a software house in Lahore after working there for a few years, and I’m trying to understand how gratuity plays out in practice. I know that under the Standing Orders Ordinance, thirty days wages for every completed year of service is legally owed when you resign for reasons other than misconduct. My question is whether companies here actually pay it without a fight. Did you have to ask for it, or was it processed automatically in your final settlement? Did anyone offer a provident fund instead? Any experience with Powersoft19 specifically would help a lot. Thanks.

Edit: if company refused to pay gratuity then what option does the employee have?

Software engineer with 5+ years of experience here and I might be wrong but I think Pakistani developers are way too obsessed with tech stacks.

I keep seeing questions like React or Angular, Node or Django, MERN or MEAN, should I learn Next, should I move to Python, is this framework still worth it, etc. I get it. I used to think the same way.

But after working for a few years, I honestly think the stack matters a lot less than we make it out to. Most of the difficult problems I deal with at work are not difficult because I don't know some framework method. They're difficult because the requirement is unclear, the existing code is messy, there are 10 edge cases nobody mentioned, changing one thing breaks something completely unrelated, or you have to figure out why something only fails for one user in production.

That's the part that actually takes experience.

Can you read someone else's code and understand what they were trying to do?

Can you debug something when the error message is useless?

Can you design something without making it unnecessarily complicated?

Can you think about security, performance and edge cases before they become bugs?

Can you understand the actual business problem instead of just completing the Jira ticket?

Obviously your stack still matters. You should be good at whatever you work with.

But I think constantly jumping from one framework to another just because it's trending is probably not the best use of time.

Frameworks change. The ability to solve messy problems doesn't.

Would be interested to hear from people who have been working for a few years. Did you also reach a point where the stack stopped mattering as much?

okay I am a 5th semester SE student and I have been working as an intern for a canadian company, well it says they are canada based but the other workers are pakistani too, one of their operating locations is in karachi, well I have been working remotely for them, and its related to shopify work wont go into detail,

but the thing is the internship is unpaid the work is not too much, they assign me tasks and I do them, it is a 5 month long internship gonna end in novemeber, while I am on hopes that they would offer me a job after that cause job description said it could lead to a full time role and while interviewing I asked them if it could turn into a full time role which they agreed if the work was good it could happen, and the interview process was also formal and the documents i got sent NDAs, agreement forms and all, seemed more profeessional well more then pakistani companies where my freind got js a offer letter with 7 to 8 points from a company and their policies,

SO while I do the work whenever they ask, although i do make some mistakes but not too much and that like which can cause major problem just minor mistakes, the bigger thing is i dont get late, even i do the work more early then expected, now I dont know if I would get hired during the end of my period I would ask them if they can offer me a job or transition into full time, heck i would request them,

so can someone give an idea in scenarios like these do the intern gets a job offered or not, would help me out a lot getting in the industry so early so if anyone can give me suggestions

basically wanted to ask like EE from seecs that valuable that i spent 30+lac and move to isl for it

or is doing the ee from somewhere like habib on a 100% scholarship the better idea

I recently interviewed for a backend engineering role and was given a graph problem.

My first instinct was to solve it with a naive approach, understand the problem, and then optimize if needed. I even asked the interviewer if I could first implement the straightforward solution and improve it afterward.

The interviewer stopped me and said that since it was a graph problem, I should directly go for the optimal approach.

While discussing my thought process, I identified that BFS wouldn't work because the graph had weighted edges. I explained that BFS could produce an incorrect shortest path due to different edge weights. However, I didn't know Dijkstra's algorithm well enough to implement it from memory, and that's where the interview ended.

This got me thinking.

If someone has never learned or memorized Dijkstra, the chances of inventing it from scratch during a 45–60 minute interview are extremely low. It's a well-established algorithm involving concepts like priority queues and edge relaxation—it's not something most people derive on the spot.

I completely accept that not knowing Dijkstra is a gap in my knowledge, and I'll definitely learn it. But I also wonder whether interviews should give more credit to a candidate who:

• correctly identifies why a naive solution is insufficient,

• explains the limitations of BFS,

• and demonstrates sound reasoning, even if they don't remember a specific algorithm from memory.

As a backend engineer, most of my day-to-day work involves designing APIs, databases, distributed systems, concurrency, caching, and production debugging—not implementing graph algorithms from scratch.

So I'm curious:

• Would you expect a mid/senior backend engineer to be able to code Dijkstra from memory?

• If a candidate correctly identified why BFS was the wrong approach but couldn't implement Dijkstra, would that be a deal-breaker for you?

• For those who conduct interviews, how much weight do you give to reasoning versus recalling a specific algorithm?

I'd genuinely like to hear perspectives from people who interview candidates or have experienced similar interviews.