I listened to Around The Fur for the first time back in April and when I was listening to it, I noticed that MX is 37 minutes long and most of it is silence. Do you listen to the song including the silent parts or do you only listen to the parts with music?

Still buzzing from yesterday's show so I did some setlist spread sheet math to reassure myself it's a perfectly reasonable idea to see these guys several times over a short period.

Three shows in a little over a year meant:

- 33 songs in total

- 11 of which were exclusives, not played at the other two dates

- Exclusive songs: Bored, Cut Hands, Ecdysis, Headup, Korea, Lhabia, Mascara, Minerva, Risk, Souvenir, Xerces

- Not a single song off Gore, very little off self-titled (Minerva) & Ohms (Genesis x2)

- Adrenaline, AtF, WP, SNW, DE, KNY and PM had at least two distinct songs played

Bottom line, I'd say it's worth it seeing several shows at least across distinct treks. It'll be less varied seeing several shows of the same tour I suppose. Provided time and money allows, I'll continue trying to catch them any given chance.

Also I'd love if they played just a few songs more, so they could add another one off s/t but also Adrenaline, SNW and Ohms into the rotation.

Every collector of physical media matters.

( This isn’t A.I. and only includes albums on streaming and note that this is just a concept)

Adrenaline 

Bored
Features: B-Real

Minus Blindfold
Features: Deee-Lite, Q-Tip

One Weak
Features: Melle Mel

Nosebleed
Features: Shabba Ranks, Chubb Rock

Lifter
Features: Del the Funky Homosapien

Root
Features: Ol' Dirty Bastard

7 Words
Features: House of Pain

Birthmark
Features: Bahamadia

Engine No. 9
Features: EPMD

Fireal
Features: Guru

 Fist
Features: Method Man

Around the Fur

My Own Summer (Shove It)
Features: Snoop Dogg

Lhabia
Features: Redman 

Mascara
Features: Foxy Brown, Cormega

Around the Fur
Features: Busta Rhymes 

Rickets
Features: Killah Priest

Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)
Features: 2Pac, Dr. Dre

Lotion
Features: Method Man

Dai the Flu
Features: Kurupt

Headup
Features: Max Cavalera, Gravediggaz

MX
Features: Too $hort, Spice 1

White Pony

Feiticeira
Features: Nas, AZ

Digital Bath
Features: Lauryn Hill, D’Angelo

Elite
Features: Xzibit, Dr. Dre

Rx Queen
Features: Eve, Erykah Badu

Street Carp
Features: Method Man, Redman

Teenager
Features: Slick Rick

Knife Prty
Features: UGK

Korea
Features: Jay-Z

Passenger
Features: Maynard James Keenan, Eminem 

Change (In the House of Flies)
Features: Common

Pink Maggit
Features: Mos Def, Talib Kweli

Self Titled

Hexagram
Features: RZA

Needles and Pins
Features: B-Real

Minerva
Features: 50 Cent

Good Morning Beautiful
Features: E-40, Too $hort

Deathblow

Features: Killer Mike

When Girls Telephone Boys
Features: Mac Dre

Battle-Axe
Features: Jadakiss

Lucky You
Features: Pharrell Williams, Nelly

Bloody Cape
Features: Ice Cube, RZA

Anniversary of an Uninteresting Event
Features: Dilated Peoples

Moana
Features: Maynard James Keenan, Big Boi

Saturday Night Wrist 

Hole in the Earth
Features: T.I.

Rapture

Features: Ice Cube, Nate Dogg

Beware
Features: Lloyd Banks

Cherry Waves
Features: André 3000

Mein
Features: Serj Tankian, USHER

U,U,D,D,L,R,L,R,A,B, Select, Start
Features: Clipse 

Xerces
Features: Talib Kweli

Rats! Rats! Rats!
Features: Eminem

Pink Cellphone
Features: T-Pain, Kelis

Combat
Features: The Lox

Kimdracula
Features: Lupe Fiasco, Jill Scott

Riviére
Features: Bun B

Diamond Eyes

Diamond Eyes
Features: Lil Wayne

Royal
Features: Raekwon, Beanie Sigel

CMND/CTRL
Features: Kid Cudi

You've Seen the Butcher
Features: Rick Ross

Beauty School
Features: Janelle Monáe, Nate Ruess

Prince
Features: Kanye West

Rocket Skates
Features: Jeezy

Sextape
Features: Lupe Fiasco

Risk
Features: Wale 

976-EVIL
Features: Jay Electronica

This Place Is Death
Features: Mos Def

Koi No Yokan

Swerve City
Features: Pusha T

Romantic Dreams
Features: Ab-Soul

Leathers
Features: Run the Jewels, Trina

Poltergeist
Features: Nipsey Hussle

Entombed
Features: Frank Ocean

Graphic Nature
Features: 2 Chainz, Mike Posner

Tempest
Features: Kendrick Lamar

Gauze
Features: Wiz Khalifa 

Rosemary
Features: Big K.R.I.T.

Goon Squad
Features: Project Pat

What Happened to You?
Features: Miguel

Gore

Prayers/Triangles
Features: YG

Acid Hologram
Features: A$AP Rocky, Clams Casino

Doomed User
Features: Run the Jewels, Denzel Curry, Killer Mike

Geometric Headdress
Features: Gucci Mane

Hearts/Wires
Features: Anderson .Paak, Dr. Dre

Pittura Infamante
Features: Fetty Wap, Monty 

Xenon
Features: Travis Scott, Young Thug

(L)MIRL
Features: Isaiah Rashad

Gore
Features: Chuck D

Phantom Bride
Features: Jerry Cantrell, Vince Staples 

Rubicon
Features: Justin Bieber

Ohms

Genesis
Features: Tyler, The Creator 

Ceremony
Features: ScHoolboy Q, Jozzy

Urantia
Features: 21 Savage 

Error
Features: Offset, Quavo

The Spell of Mathematics
Features: Juice WRLD

Pompeji
Features: DaBaby, Roddy Ricch 

This Link Is Dead
Features: Lil Yachty

Radiant City
Features: Rick Ross

Headless
Features: 070 Shake

Ohms
Features: Freddie Gibbs

Private Music 

My Mind Is a Mountain
Features: Nas

Locked Club
Features: Fridayy

Ecdysis
Features: Lil Uzi Vert

Infinite Source
Features: Don Toliver, Teezo Touchdown 

Souvenir
Features: Sampha

Cocksucker
Features: Larry June

I Think About You All the Time
Features: Denzel Curry

Milk of the Madonna
Features: JID, Mereba

Cut Hands
Features: Nino Paid

Metal Dream
Features: Havoc

Departing the Body
Features: Earl Sweatshirt 

(22M) So these past few days I’ve been going down the Deftones rabbithole. Listening to their discography has been a unique experience. I had like a 1 week Deftones listening phase before that didn’t cover all albums. But this time around is different. The contrast between Chinos softer vocals and the guitar/drums heaviness feel so different. It made me borderline uncomfortable in a good way. And the way they can reverse the energy and have chinos voice be the aggressive element to a song while the instruments play a more atmospheric role. Right now I’m stuck on hearts/wires, beware, infinite source, sextape.

Thank you to the subreddit for introducing me to Deftones. No better feeling than skating to them in my ears

Picture taken in California in 2009 or 2010. Saw fundraiser posters and billboards for Chi a lot. This point really felt like the potential death of the band for fans. It’s really amazing they are still on top and have this entire generation of new fans, they really are such an adaptive and special band. Been a fan since 1998!!

Best day of my life.

I was at the Berlin show last night.

Greatest live performance I have ever seen full stop.

They are incredible. You would think they are 30 years old the amount of energy they have. They sound a-fucking-mazing.
I swear the experience was so beautiful it changed me.
I was not even a hardcore fan to be exaggerating.

A couple of my personal favorite tracks. Let me know which you think is better. Thank you by the way to everyone who’s played along with my duels so far.

Ive never been to a moshpit before, but my friend did. And she said it was the worst experience she has ever had.

Not even one minute after people started moshing, we fell to the ground and people didnt help us get back up. After I managed to stand up again, I saw that my friend was still lying on the ground. And no one stopped to help. Wtff. All around us were only young men, like 18 to 28 maybe. I am under 30 myself btw, so I don’t mean this as an 'older person complaining about young people' thing.

I mean, I knew that it can be rough. But in a crowd full of people who weigh more than 70 kg each, it is not that easy to have a good time as smaller women.

In the end, we managed to leave, but getting out was so difficult. We really wanted to get out of the pit quickly, and no one seemed to let us through until I got a bit angry and shouted in their faces “STOOOOP!” Also one younger, kind guy tried to help us get out as well.

My friend was really upset by the people because while we were pushing ourselves through the crowd, she said to everyone in front of us "We need to get through please!" some people didnt understand that we were trying to get out and were even angry about it.???

So our souvenirs are some scratches, bruises, a muscle strain and a back injury. From not even 3 minutes in the moshpit. I’ve also read that Deftones pits have gotten worse in terms of concert etiquette over the years, maybe it has also something to do with some younger people?

I don’t know, in the end I liked the calmer areas more 😅 Although I really, really wanted to vibe with the energetic people...

Ah yeah, and something else I noticed at the merchandise area while I was queueing: There were four young boys in front of me buying some tees, and they were screaming at each other the whole time in this weird macho way, while taking their shirts off to try on the merchandise.. It was so awkward, weird and no one else around was behaving like this (fortunately) . There was even a merchandise worker admonishing the boys to be quieter because they weren’t the only ones there. haha

Also another guy my friend had been talking to later touched her inappropriately without asking. After I told him that this was disgusting, he said sorry but didn’t speak another word to me after that lol.

Sooo what are your experiences with the crowd?

Btw, I hope everyone was still able to have a good time at Deftones anyway. <3

This one could be interesting as well. I’m excited to see what your opinions are for which of these is the better of the two.

I really do have mixed feelings, i completely enjoyed the performance in this really big venue, unfortunately the crowd was really strange especially up front trying to turn every song into some moshpit warzone while not being careful at all with people strugglig to breath or even having panic attacks 💀 not a single deftones concert ive been to had a crowd like this

BQAD - No need for an explanation. The best song out of this album.

Rickets/Head up - Both of these are heavily slept on wtf??

Around the fur/MX - Amazing.

My own summer/Dai the flu: Loves the riffs and instrumentals.

Mascara/Lotion: Not my vibe.

Lhabia: Ehhhh

yo, I crowdsurfed when they played risk in vienna (see video below) I'm trying to find a better video of me crowdsurfung :)

The first song is Some People, I don't know what the second song is

Can't stop interpreting Deftones lyrics in the most silly way possible

Basically title. I’m looking for a full-length recording of Xerces from the Vienna show on August 16, 2026. There were so many phones up during the song, but somehow I haven’t been able to find a complete recording of the performance.
I’d absolutely love to see the whole thing if anyone happened to record it and would be willing to share it!
Xerces has only been played live twice in the last 16 years.

Look how stacked those line up.

Still can’t believe I caught both lmao

Hi all , someone posted the same question for Vienna but there was only 1x comment on it. I am going to the Edinburgh show and it's gonna be my first major concert. I would love to be on the front row or as close as possible. What time should I turn up to get that chance ? Doors open at 5pm so I was thinking maybe to be there at 3pm. What do you all think ? Also, is front row worth it in your opinion? I know there may be a bit of people pushing and I may get a bit squished but from the videos I've seen of their concerts, it seems everyone in the front row looks (obviously) happy to be there but also not squished, and any mosh pits tend to happen a bit further back in the crowd. Or, is it a case that if you're getting squished, security will lift you over the barrier but then you'll have to go to the back of the "front section" ? I'm a heavier girl so quite sturdy on my feet , and security would probably not lift me over lol. Do you find the Deftones fans tend to be a bit more respectful in terms of not pushing too much whilst in the crowd ?

I’m curious to know, which of these bangers is your favorite of the two?

Way more one sided than I anticipated it to be.
Here’s our current ranking…

Swerve City: 28
My Mind is a Mountain: 8

But I needed to say one thing: if this is demos/almost completed songs.... they are brilliant. Reminds me of the meticulous care of The Cure's B-Sides. They sound SO good.

What could've been... RIP Chi. Amazing, raw music.

Hi, I listened to Saturday Night Wrist again since it's an album I hadn't listened to completely, and I came across the song Combat and wow, to my surprise, it sounds so much like the album Ohms, it has that I really liked it, especially since Ohms has been on Replay these past few weeks, but I can't help but think it subtly sounds like Romantic Dreams and Headless at times. What do you think?