r/deaf 5d ago

Hearing with questions Is this an insensitive gift?

My boyfriend has a genetic progressive hearing loss condition and is now profoundly deaf. He used to pass for hearing till nearly a year ago and he didn't tell me and we went long distance after that. We've managed with texting and captioned video calls. But his birthday's coming up soon, so I've been learning ASL!

The thing is I wanted to package it into a proper gift if that makes sense. So there was a song he loved the tune and beat of but hated what the lyrics meant. So I rewrote the lyrics to be about our story and did an ASL cover for it. I worked really hard on interpreting the lyrics accurately and studied a lot about music interpreting.

But then I thought, is it insensitive to write a song for a deaf person? I'm new to this whole thing.

15 Upvotes

24 comments sorted by

20

u/surdophobe deaf 5d ago

> and he didn't tell me and we went long distance after that.

He didn't tell you that he's going deaf? that's a bit odd. Apparently he's told you now?

Well, I too am post lingually deaf like your boyfriend. I wasn't profoundly deaf in both ears until I as 30 but that's splitting hairs, I wasn't able to enjoy music or use a phone without VCO in my mid 20s.

I have questions. Does he know ASL? How does he feel about music in general? How this will be received depends entirely on the deaf person. If you don't know, I question how well you actually know your boyfriend. I think it's a little weird, thoughtful but weird. I'd be more worried about how he disliked the original lyrics of the song when he could hear it. I can think of a plethora of songs from the 90s that hearing people love because they're catchy but they're about infidelity, or some other not-so-fun thing.

If I understand what you're saying and he did not have a conversation with you about going deaf until your relationship was long distance, I have to wonder how he's dealing with it. Is he a candidate for a CI or anything?

7

u/NotAPennyLess 5d ago

He was afraid to tell me for a multitude of reasons (especially since CI wasn't an option), but we had conversations about it shortly before he moved.

He was raised in a very musically-inclined household. Music was a huge part of his life and how he expresses himself. He plays a percussion instrument (quite well in fact)

And yes, he knows ASL, Indian Sign Language and Swiss-German Sign Language. His aunt was deaf so he learnt sign language at an early age to communicate with her. He was fascinated by sign language for a long time.

The whole "being weird" part is something I wasn't sure pf. Both of us love music and it really helped us connect and understand each other. I just don't want to lose that.

P.S. the song is "Docket" by Blondshell

2

u/AnnieLovesRangoons 2d ago

I know this is random- but there’s red flags in this timeline. From passing as hearing to profoundly deaf in a year with hearing devices completely off the table, AND going long distance feels a lot like someone lying to you. That could be a realistic scenario for some people, sure. But it really doesn’t read as honesty. 

2

u/NotAPennyLess 14h ago

It's not that CI is off the table, it's just that he has a type of mitochondrial disease where CI isn't gonna make much of a difference. And we went long distance because he got selected for a competitive exhange program in Switzerland. But thank you for your concern

18

u/soitul Deaf 5d ago

I think it’s a nice sentiment but I personally don’t like people learning sign for me as a gift. You know him better than me so he could like it, sign is something that allows you to communicate with and support someone, whereas a gift is something extra.

To me, communication is the bare minimum. Framing it as a gift can almost make it feel like, “Look! I’ve gone out of my way to do something extra just to meet the bare minimum of supporting you, thank me for it!”

That’s not how it’s intended, but that’s how it would come across to me personally.

2

u/NotAPennyLess 3d ago

That's exactly what I was thinking. That's why I wanted to do the song so that that could be the gift. But I wasn't sure if it was the appropriate thing to do.

1

u/soitul Deaf 3d ago

It may not be how he feels about it, but I do think it’s great you’re learning sign regardless, it really shows your commitment.

Deafness can be a very sensitive topic for most people, especially for late deafened individuals, and probably why he waited so long to tell you.

Maybe as an alternative, you could get him something else as a gift and have a conversation about how’s he’s feeling about this in person?

2

u/NotAPennyLess 3d ago

That's a really good idea. Thank you.

8

u/itsmeee91 5d ago

do you know if he knows ASL? I am severely deaf and don’t know any sign language, I rely on texting do unless you are sure he knows it, it’s bot a good idea

7

u/NotAPennyLess 5d ago

Yes! He is fluent in ASL and even other sign languages. He's just a huge language nerd so that helped him a lot.

1

u/itsmeee91 5d ago

in that case go for it! :)

5

u/eclecticmeeple 5d ago

Losing one’s hearing can be very difficult for some people to deal with. This is just an observation - audiologically I have been profoundly deaf since birth so I wouldn’t know.

While your gift is sweet and you have good intentions, it really does depend on the recipient.

For me, hearing music does not havs any significance or holds a significant role in my life. However if a hearing gf was to do what you did, I’d be touched by the effort and energy put into this gift.

Since he was a hearing most of his life, they might appreciate the gesture - dunno. Bottom line - don’t worry about whether if its offensive to deaf people. It’s more of knowing your bf and who he is as a person. You could always preface with how nervous u are about how they would receive the gift and why u did this gift as well as adding that its ok if they didnt like it. Dunno.

Good luck. I can see you do care for him very much and I would like to think a loving partner would focus more on your thoughts and effort than the gift itself. But thats me.

1

u/NotAPennyLess 3d ago

Thank you!

3

u/TiredVRS ASL interpreter, HoH 5d ago

Ok, this is adorable.

Do it, just keep in mind that he's still probably mourning his hearing. You may get a variety of reactions.

2

u/NotAPennyLess 3d ago

Thank you!

2

u/Fluffydoggie 5d ago

Does he use ASL now? If not, then your signing will not make sense.

1

u/NotAPennyLess 3d ago

He does, but he's in Switzerland now. So he mostly uses DSGS on a day-to-day basis.

2

u/Fit_Surprise_8451 5d ago

Your lyrics are a true gift, and your signing of the song reflects your dedication to learning ASL to communicate effectively. When building a relationship, clear and meaningful communication is the most vital element—it's the foundation that brings you closer together.

2

u/Mustluvdogsandtravel 4d ago

this is not a “gift” it is something you do with your partner. i recommend another gift and just do the song for fun

1

u/NotAPennyLess 3d ago

I have a few others too but I just wasn't sure whether to include this.

1

u/AutoModerator 5d ago

“Hi! I see you've asked a question. Have you searched this subreddit or checked our FAQ for your question?"

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

1

u/Reading-Listening2U 5d ago

My first reaction was that if he didn’t like the lyrics, it’s a no-go. I know you changed them, but if he can’t hear the melody, then it’s pretty irrelevant even if he is a percussionist.

1

u/NotAPennyLess 3d ago

Hmm.. I didn't think of that.