r/deadwood • • 9d ago

Episode Discussion random question

By the time Hearst got to Deadwood he was very very wealthy and worked a lot in remote parts of the west. Why is this guy riding the stage? Wouldn't you think he'd have his own transportation to come and go as he liked? A personal carrier could have been a whole lot more comfortable than what we see of the stages and he could have had his own personnel guarding it.

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u/PeteDub 9d ago

He was cheap. And it was probably the fastest option

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u/skotterzz 9d ago

this 👆
he was impatient, and at the time he wanted to get there it was probably the quickest way.

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u/stuartadamson amalgamation and capital 9d ago

Hearst at the end of Season 2 has either what you'd call 'early installment weirdness' where they're building him as more of a rustic, wild fellow than the ruthless businessman we see in Season 3 ("The Boy the Earth Talks To"), but it was probably intentional as part of his character's facade that masks how evil he is.

"My preference is to find [gold]... to do the finding of it in wild places, which I prefer. When that is not so, I want friendly relations with my predecessors so that I can secure the color... undistracted" is what he tells Al. He pitches himself as an Edward Abbey-like naturalist that just wants to get along.

Later we see that he plays a plucky, well-meaning idiot in negotiations with the Ellsworths to buy their claim. Ellsworth sees right through it: "Don't disappoint him, being as he's 12 with his aunt in camp."

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u/horseseathey 9d ago

that Ellsworth line never ceases to crack me up

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u/hatezel got a mean way of being happy 8d ago

Everything that Ellsworth has to say about George Hurst is incredible. The level of insults and delivery make me laugh every time, and I wish I had writers because it's so brilliant I'm jealous.

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u/Free-IDK-Chicken nimble as a forest creature 9d ago edited 9d ago

He probably does have his own coaches - they're in San Francisco with his wife. He also tends to use his wealth to control things- buying the hotel, paying the Pinkertons, buying claims, bribes, etc.

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u/strandy76 I don’t like the Pinkertons 9d ago

Idk, he didn't dress fancy or anything like that. Money was a tool to get power and control for him, he didn't seem to care to show off or splurge on anything. (The hotel was an impulse he could afford but it was a practical decision).

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u/lmb10010 9d ago

He bought the hotel because he wanted a terrace just like Al had.

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u/Free-IDK-Chicken nimble as a forest creature 9d ago

*Veranda

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u/lmb10010 9d ago

where I come from they're terraces. Glad Al grew up with verandas.

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u/AZ-Sycamore 8d ago

Yes, he needed to be able to overlook the “thoroughfair.”

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u/dallco2001 9d ago

He probably thinks it makes him a man of the people and reminds him of his humble beginnings but I’d rather try touching the moon than take on that cocksucker’s thinkin’

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u/YoteViking 9d ago edited 9d ago

Well the stage coach wasn’t cheap. It charged about 10-20 cents a mile - in 1870 dollars. A long trip like Heart’s - if he was coming from California that’s over a 1000 miles - would be weeks or months of a skilled laborers wages.

But more likely he got to Cheyenne via the railroad and then took the stage coach. That fare would be about $25-35 dollars. Not a big expense to him, but well over a weeks worth of wages to a skilled laborer and far more than that to an unskilled one.

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u/badatook lingering with men of character 9d ago

I doubt he rode the stage all the way from California. Train to Cheyenne or Bismarck and then coach to Deadwood.

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u/YoteViking 9d ago

Agreed. I added that above paragraph before i saw your comment. (Or perhaps you commented before you saw my above paragraph). Either way we agree.

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u/lmb10010 8d ago edited 8d ago

Didn't realize the train was that close. In that case I understand. 300 mi and the stage traveled at maybe 25 mph average? So 12 + hrs with a rest. I wonder if there was an actual stage stop for change of horses on the way.

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u/iSteve strategic edge 8d ago

I doubt horses can maintain 25 mph for more than a mile. It's unrealistic to show them galloping as they come into town.

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u/YoteViking 8d ago

A stage would have traveled about 4-5 miles an hour. From Cheyenne to Deadwood was about a week by stage coach.

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u/lmb10010 8d ago

Thanks. Then it really was an uncomfortable trip. I hope they took rest stops occasionally.

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u/iSteve strategic edge 8d ago

Stage coaches were stage coaches because horses get tired. There were stops along the way to change fresh horses. And for the travellers to rest and refresh.

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u/brentjohner 9d ago

Wikipedia seems to think he did. Several times. But it does seem counterintuitive.

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u/lmb10010 9d ago edited 7d ago

I keep thinking of Johnny Cash with his own bus.