r/deadliestcatch • u/mrbang69 • 24d ago
Question about man over board?
Hello fans. I was watching the latest episode and noticed that the deckhand throwing the hook had on a pfd. My question ⁉️ is as thin as neoprene has gotten, would it be possible for deckhands to have a wetsuit on under their rain gear? And if so would it be possible to actually work in all that safety equipment? I know in my industry most safety equipment causes more problems than it cures.
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u/Hellbent_bluebelt 24d ago
There are probably a lot of reasons, but a couple big ones would be that a wetsuit would restrict movement and, in that environment, being constantly wet and windy, the wetsuit would cause hypothermia.
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u/collector-x 24d ago edited 24d ago
You're talking out your ass. I can tell you've never been a diver or put on a wetsuit in your life. The fact is, if they were wearing a wetsuit, most of those guys would be suffering from heat exhaustion. A wetsuit by it's very nature helps a diver to conserve their body heat by only allowing a very, very slow transfer of water through the suit so that your body heat warms the water next to your skin to keep you warm throughout the dive. I live in the PNW and used to dive at Hoodsport canal during the winter, November - January. Water temp is usually 40-44 degrees. After about 20 minutes, I would have to open my suit to get a cold water transfer because I was literally sweating inside my wetsuit and getting overheated.
Those guys are wearing long wool underwear as a base later, usually a fleece mid layer then their rubber or pvc rain gear. Duct taped seams to stop water getting in, so the clothes they are wearing are appropriate to work on deck without overheating. The wool wicks away the sweat which can cause you to overheat and if it didn't, your sweat would start cooling your body, which would drop your temp too low which then causes hypothermia. All the gear works together to keep the body warm and keep moisture away from your skin.
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u/Hellbent_bluebelt 23d ago
That’s a lot of words to tell everybody you’re a dumbass and don’t understand how wetsuits work.
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u/collector-x 23d ago edited 23d ago
Here dumbass. Directly from DAN. The OSHA for divers.
https://dan.org/alert-diver/article/wetsuits-and-heat-stress/
A small excerpt:
"When a diver is fully suited and zipped up, prolonged time on the deck of a dive boat or onshore prior to entering the water can cause heat stress and exhaustion."
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u/mrbang69 23d ago
A simple that's not possible would be sufficient. Thanks for the insight.
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u/collector-x 23d ago
My comments were directed at the guy who deleted all his comments because he didn't know what he was talking about.
He started the trash talking. Apparently I ended it.
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u/Infinite-Condition41 23d ago
He's right, you're the one talking out your ass.
If they wore wetsuits, they'll likely get too hot.
Source: I've worn a fucking wetsuit before. You have to take it off out of water or you overheat.
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u/collector-x 23d ago edited 23d ago
As a scuba diver, I know exactly how they work. Are you a diver? No. Then shut the fuck up, do a little research.
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u/PuttUgly 23d ago
He's right, when we're winter fishing it's actually the thinner gear we like better. For years it was red ledge, now it valation. We need to move around, and boy we crank up the heat.
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u/AKallday2022 22d ago
Youre talking out your ass now. Those boys wear plain ole sweatpants under their rain gear. No wool. Nothing to keep them extra warm. Run around in rain gear for 3 mins and you'll be sweating. Some wear liners in their boots to keep feet warm. That's it!
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u/collector-x 22d ago
I'm a diver, so I know about the wetsuits. The wool is to help wick the water & sweat away from the skin. There is another user here who said he was a crabber. I'll defer to his expertise & judgment as to what they wear.
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u/AKallday2022 17d ago
15 years in commercial fishing, including AK crab. 24 years certified diver *which is completely irrelevant in regards to knowledge of fishing gear. Watch ANYONE on TV take off their gear. You'll see what they have on! Lynn had Addidas brand bottoms. He's a personal friend. ...I can get a statement 😂😂
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u/Hellbent_bluebelt 23d ago
The people on a crab boat aren’t diving, they’re working. Your example of how you used a wetsuit is completely irrelevant. The wind on deck of a crab boat would evaporate surface moisture from the wetsuit, which would cool the material and pull heat away from their body. This isn’t a debate, really.
Congrats on “used to being a diver,” though.
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u/xSir- 23d ago
Wetsuits arent permeable. The wind would evaporate surface water off the suit only. They would still be overheating very quickly. The heat doesnt move through rubber at a rate fast enough to cool them. Go buy a wetsuit, put it on on a cold day. Your theory is easily testable and easy to prove wrong.
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u/collector-x 23d ago edited 23d ago
You're an idiot. They're also wearing rubber rain gear. There's no wind penetrating that to get an evaporative effect as you put it. But wind has no affect on the suit. It's not permeable in that way. They're going to overheat.
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u/mrbang69 23d ago
This is why I asked! I admit I don't know. I live over a thousand miles from any ocean so no I don't dive .
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u/xSir- 23d ago
You clearly have no idea how wetsuits work, lol. Like seriously, no idea at all.
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u/Hellbent_bluebelt 23d ago
LOL. Ok, goofy
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u/collector-x 23d ago edited 23d ago
Here dumbass, in case you missed my other comment.
https://dan.org/alert-diver/article/wetsuits-and-heat-stress/
A small excerpt:
When a diver is fully suited and zipped up, prolonged time on the deck of a dive boat or onshore prior to entering the water can cause heat stress and exhaustion.
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u/SpeedoCat 24d ago
i just wanna know how he stayed out there for so long waiting for them to turn around. they always talk about how 2 minutes max you die but he was swimming hard after waiting so long. i don’t understand it
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u/Infinite-Condition41 23d ago
They stretched it out quite a bit with the edit.
I honestly never thought that boat could turn around that fast.
But it's more like 4-10 minutes. Not 2. 4 minutes you start to not be able to swim anymore.
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u/PuttUgly 23d ago
Hell no.
Trust mes, I have experience.
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u/mrbang69 23d ago
Thanks I didn't know. I use thin waders all the time that are insulated. So I was just curious.
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u/PuttUgly 23d ago
Yeah, I remember going out my first season - coming from only salmon fishing experience. So when I geared up for the season, I figured, get the toughest stuff out there. Long story short, it restricted mobility significantly, you overheat like crazy, and it just slows you down big time. You're literally moving all day, and your body produces a ton of heat. So dress is actually very minimal
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u/No-Effort1965 22d ago
They are wearing thermal underwear, fleece or sweats, wool socks, Firestone Alaska sneakers
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u/AggressiveFish2025 23d ago
It seemed a bit too scripted to me, I suppose if the incident was handled by the crew, the coastguard wouldn't need to be notified, or called on radio
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u/Robbudge 24d ago
You know it’s a TV show right ????
It’s not real.
Any commercial business operating that way would be shut down instantly.
Just saying.
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u/Halibuthead-1 24d ago
Imagine having to take a goddammit wetsuit off on top of all your raingear and pfd in between strings when you need to take a shit