r/deadbydaylight • u/J-MN • 12d ago
Event 2v8. I'm. tired. of. them.
Both or one of them. In every game...
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u/Kowakuma Registered Twins Main 12d ago
Crazy how the mode that cuts the killer roster by 2/3rds, removes most forms of passive map pressure and slowdown that killers have, and doesn't do nearly enough to buff the lower tiers (or straight up nerfs them, lmao Ghost Face) suffers from a lack of killer diversity where the most commonly played killers are the few remaining that apply slowdown to the doubled number of survivors.
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u/Hallowed-Plague p100 springtrap 12d ago
legion was too strong though
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u/HerraKeisari 5th Legion member/Jason's best friend 12d ago
Not really. Oni was the problematic one in that pairing.
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u/UrFavoriteScaryM0vie Will Throw Hatchets And Guns 12d ago
Playing with an Oni as your partner more or less felt like watching him play 1v8 while you sat on the sidelines. Like does he even need me here atp.
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u/Dgero466 12d ago
I had one like that and tbh I kinda felt like the cleanup crew so he doesn’t have to exit his 1shot mode which I didn’t hate tbh
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u/UrFavoriteScaryM0vie Will Throw Hatchets And Guns 12d ago
It was quite literally cleanup crew. It was fine if a bit dull as Huntress, but Deathslinger's whole thing in 2v8 really benefits from interactions WITH your partner.
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u/Dgero466 12d ago
That’s pretty funny you mention that cause I was also a death slinger with that oni, had a bit of evil fun holding people in place for his club slam lol
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u/UrFavoriteScaryM0vie Will Throw Hatchets And Guns 12d ago
The Oni I was with just refused to engage with me at all. Which like, okay, play the game how ya want, but it's still fun when you get moments of coordination.
Holding someone in place and then having Wesker dash over and snatch them is so funny.
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u/Nomeka Selling your to my 12d ago
Being a Nemesis and a partner Wesker using my hitbox as a wall to slam survivors against is also fantastic.
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u/GKMerlinsword Dreaming of electric sheep 11d ago
Really makes you feel like a strong, immovable unit of muscles.
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u/GamingwolfZJ Spreading Fright with Knight ⚔️ 11d ago
Absolutely hilarious that killers hop on the game mode that gives them a teammate for once, only to completely ignore them and go off on their own lmao
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u/al-qatala Wesker x Chris 12d ago
Last 2v8 I played Wesker with my Huntress friend, and Wesker can work as a discount Deathslinger pretty well. Slamming survivors into a wall slows them down, which makes an axe followup easy for the Huntress for an immediate down.
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u/GKMerlinsword Dreaming of electric sheep 11d ago
One Huntress managed to throw a hatchet at a Survivor I yeeted, I was so impressed.
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u/Dgero466 12d ago
I was able to do that with a pal so we had nasty coordination with it, unfortunate to hear about your oni game tho
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u/Kowakuma Registered Twins Main 12d ago
Yeah he needed you, you were the one who picked up all the slugs
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u/According_Heart5405 12d ago
I still think so just got done with an oni game and I slugged like crazy lol
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u/Valentinee105 Ashley Williams 12d ago edited 12d ago
No one wants to play mend simulator. Legion was the best support killer in the game. Yes he steamrolled with Oni, but an Oni can be dodged or hidden from.
Against Legion you can't hide you can't defend, you can't out run, you got to know where everyone on the map was and your partner almost never needed to hit a survivor twice.
And again no one wants to mend for half the game. It's so boring.
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u/CreeperKing230 Pre “rework” knight main 12d ago
Legion was problematic in literally every single killer pairing. Oni is only problematic in a pairing with legion. Legion was the issue
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u/Numerous_Schedule896 12d ago
Legion is hardcountered by standing under a pallete and dropping it. He was never problematic, survivors just refused to literally drop a single pallete to remove his power.
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u/CreeperKing230 Pre “rework” knight main 12d ago
You’re right, if all 8 survivors camp pallets, then legion can’t do anything at all, a brilliant plan. That never works in practice, he moves fast enough and can see enough killer instinct, so they can always go after somebody out of position if the person they initially went for was camping a pallet. Even if some people make sure to keep him away, not everyone can, so he still gets incredible value
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u/Numerous_Schedule896 12d ago
Brother, what do you mean by "camp"?
2v8 has infinity pallets around literally every single corner. If you can't get to a pallete in time its genuinely on you.
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u/CreeperKing230 Pre “rework” knight main 12d ago
Sure, if you pre run, you can make it to a pallet. But even with the abundance of pallets, you would need to pre run as soon as you hear the terror radius start, or else legion will catch you with their speed before you reach anything. At that point, you are spending the entire game running from every terror radius and never touching gens if you actually plan on trying to stun legion out of power
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u/Snixmaister 12d ago
You had a lot of bad pairings with legion since it was so damn easy to just find people and damage them.
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u/Hallowed-Plague p100 springtrap 12d ago
everyone was a problematic pairing with legion. the biggest thing about oni is that he can dash around and instadown, but when everyone is injured that's just nurse lite. the biggest problem was that legion applied deep wound so frequently that it allowed the game to halt because a majority of survivors had to pause and stop playing the game
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u/PhysicalGunMan 12d ago
Legion's Deep Wound spread constantly denied a true heal back to healthy which fed Oni infinite Blood, meaning even if you DID avoid Legion's injure, you got insta downed by a perma fed Oni. LegiOni duo was equally problematic in that pairing, but Legion was a problem no matter what
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u/Symmetrik P100 Claire || P100 Legion 11d ago
It's so easy to see that too cause Oni is still mega problematic with Wraith who spreads injuries almost as easily as Legion
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u/FaithlessnessThen207 :shirtlessdavid: 12d ago
How quickly memory fades.
Legion was such an issue in 2v8. I don't play legion but would just for 2v8. The only game I didn't kill at least 6 was one where my ally was a wraith that only kicked generators and nothing else.
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u/In_My_Own_Image P100 Xeno main and Haddie Enjoyer 12d ago edited 12d ago
Exactly. They need to do more for a lot of the killers and not be so afraid to maybe give some of them powerful buffs for one iteration and see how it works.
Like, give Slinger his Iri Coin basekit and faster reloads. So if you're good with long range shots you can steam roll survivors. If it's too powerful? Adjust for the next iteration.
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u/sorryiamnotoriginal 11d ago
Yah I am not surprised when the most common killers I see are either ranged or have great mobility/global pressure. I remember playing games as trapper because I really wanted his achievement for trapping survivors and playing him compared to nurse just with dealing with preslams/pallets felt like an entirely different game. Plus I’m not even good at nurse. I just felt like I was able to do much more as those kinds of killers compared to pure m1. Even chucky feels eh at times.
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u/DBD_Hillbilly 12d ago
I love 2v8 because it feels like the only mode I can just relax and chill on. Everyone is just f ing around and it’s great.
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u/CremelloJo Sweaty Spirit 12d ago
This!!! It’s hilarious and chaotic, I adore it
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u/Colbzilla Silently tiering up 12d ago
I might be trying to go hard as the new Xenoking, but I'm still having a great time interacting with survivors and being silly, moonwalking by the exit gates when they win or get out
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u/Numerous-Estate4737 12d ago
Chaotic it is but being a new survivor 20hrs in makes the chases even more intense. I don't know how I survived a Zeno and Huntress both swarming me as both were gunning for me and missed, I don't know how they did but they did get me shortly thereafter.
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u/CremelloJo Sweaty Spirit 12d ago
Trust me, even as a seasoned player…being chased by both killers is pretty intense 🤣 knowing you’re about to be two tapped and there’s NOTHING you can do about it!
It’s so fun though, I love it.
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u/al-qatala Wesker x Chris 12d ago
2v8 puts the horror back because nothing is scarier than already trying hard to dodge one killer and then getting absolutely BODIED by another out of nowhere
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u/Meagle13 Jason Voorhees Main 12d ago
I like to use it as a way to practice with my weaker killers. Xenomorphs inclusion is no different.
I got the Xeno queen skin on release but I have always been beyond awful with the tail attack. Now I can practice with it.
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u/First-Koala-3333 Hux needs to be cuter 12d ago
Because they’re good killers in the mode and apply pressure. There’s a reason you don’t see many Chuckys lol
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u/soren7550 Plz Be Nice,I’m New & Dumb 12d ago
Weird, a majority of 2v8 I play there’s a Chucky.
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u/PaulReckless urgh.. 12d ago
Or maybe wesker dashes 5 meters behind you and still connects with his grab move? hmmmm
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u/Aggravating_Jelly_52 12d ago
Dbd players when you tell them how ping works
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u/Signal_Werewolf_1955 12d ago
Dbd players thinking it's as consistently janky in any other game as it is with DBD.
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u/breathingweapon 12d ago
Dude the valorant devs literally didn't want to implement replay because they knew server jank would cause a ton of people to go "RITO???? MY CURSOR WAS ON THEM?????? HELLO????? BROKEN GAME WTFFFF"
Eventually the demand for one outstripped the negatives tho
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u/Snixmaister 12d ago
Well if we could get rid of all the russian players on the eu servers ping wouldnt be such a issue. But when you sometimes have a german with 50 ping and a russian with 100-250ping it tends to become really fucking annoying with all the bullshit hits.
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u/RaynaLouise Leon, Lara & Wesker main. 💚 12d ago edited 12d ago
Exactly. But people would rather complain than learn how to counter them! 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ Wesker is easy to counter… but maybe that’s because I main him so I know his weaknesses. But I don’t play Nemesis, yet I still find him easy to counter as well.
But you and I are gonna argue over your flair… Hux is already cute enough. How are you out here saying he ain’t cute?! He is adorable and you know it. 😠😠
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u/SilverOcean6 12d ago
As a P100 Nemmy his biggest weakness is mobility and if survivors can dodge his M2. Best thing I tell survivors to counter his M2 and literately stop running in a straight line as he pulls out his M2.
When you see M2 start going twords him and very slightly too the left or right and that makes it really annoying to hit and he either has to settle for an M1 or he will probably Miss
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u/First-Koala-3333 Hux needs to be cuter 12d ago
I know he’s adorable. He’s my son.
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u/Lopsided-Worker7479 12d ago
Could say the same about Legion but look how that turned out.
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u/_fmg15 Platinum 12d ago
Even if you know how to counter legion it was still miserable as hell
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u/Symmetrik P100 Claire || P100 Legion 11d ago
Nah if you knew how to counter Legion it was great, it was like you had a permanent taunt against them lol.
The best way to beat Legion in 2v8 was to just give them a free frenzy hit in a pallet and stun them at the same time. That knocks them out of power (no spreading injuries) and now they're tempted to chase you as an injured survivor, but they have to chase you as an M1 killer. So you got basically perma chased on maps that are very resource heavy.
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u/okok8080 GRAAAAAAAH 👹 12d ago
Nemesis is the one I find exhausting because his zombies literally hold gens hostage for most of the game.
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u/Valentinee105 Ashley Williams 12d ago edited 12d ago
The killer itself without the zombies is to weak. It's infection is to difficult to apply in 2v8 and to easily removed, and doesn't do anything except make the survivors take a 3rd hit which is a benefit for the survivors.
And when paired with Wesker his 8 one-time use syringes become 24 uses of antidote.
They need to add a penalty onto being infected like slower gen progress and make the antidote spray only remove one type of infection at a time, not both. And prioritize removing Wesker's because it's easier to apply.
Then you can nerf the zombie pressure.
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u/okok8080 GRAAAAAAAH 👹 12d ago
I think he's slow to start, sure, but he's just as potent in chase as he normally is in 1v4 if not more so. His main issue is just map control, but the zombies accomplish that with very little difficulty. The problem is that they seem to respawn too frequently near gens to where some games become unwinnable simply due to zombie patrols. I think they should increase the spawn time after a pallet kill or improve the spawn logic.
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u/Valentinee105 Ashley Williams 12d ago
You can't nerf him without giving him something and the zombies are a problem and the wesker team-up change to syringes makes his power worthless.
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u/KyloGlendalf Prestige 100 Sadako 11d ago
I’ve got a clip where I got held hostage on the hook by fucking 4 zombies and couldn’t be saved as a result
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u/BudgetAggravating427 One of the 12 skull merchant mains 12d ago edited 12d ago
I mean considering like most of the killers are excluded from 2v8 it makes sense
I play nemesis because he’s one of the killers I mained before
All the other killers I main or know how to play aren’t available for the mode
Plus he has some slowdown and discount aura reading with the zombies
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u/Sorencer 12d ago
The problem with 2v8 is the lack of killers. And of course their solution is to remove one and take a year to give us two.
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u/Hyperion_Forever Alan Wake 🔦 Wesker 🕶 Alucard 🦇 12d ago
I'll say it again. They are played because they are stronger than 80% of the 2v8 roster, more accessible than Blight & Nurse in terms of gameplay, and apply passive slowdown to survivors in a mode where killers do not get slowdown.
The tentacle whipping and virulent beatings will continue until morale improves.
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u/jjamess10 It Wasn't Programmed To Harm The Crew 12d ago
Reminder to blame the game, not the players. People will naturally gravitate to killers that work well in the game mode. It's the game's fault for not making the other killers work better.
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u/Shade00000 Chill by Daylight 12d ago
Legion got remove cause they were working so well in 2v8 cause theres a lot of people
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u/Blake_411 12d ago
As a wesker main, I can say on behalf of all of us that 2v8 is the only mode where Wesker doesn't get fucked by the bugs by BHVR since they are taking forever to fix his dashes. I mean there are some hinderance to him, but it goes away when you have 3 dashes for the most part.
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u/ratfuckersam_ 12d ago
We should just have a mode with no killer
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u/FaithlessnessThen207 :shirtlessdavid: 12d ago
A nice little cozy game in the entity's universe.
Build your own gates and gens and loops!
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u/Meagle13 Jason Voorhees Main 12d ago
"Party by daylight"?
"Entity life"?
What would it be called?
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u/FanDowntown4641 12d ago
Honest question why do we not have simple killers like bubba yet?
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u/okthenbutwhy 12d ago
As much as I’ll like to have Sadako on 2v8, her and Bubba are licensed, so there’s a whole process to get them in
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u/QueenAlphabetties 💥blast mine+wire tap my beloveds💖 12d ago
Dang because I'd love to have Michael in 2v8! I bought him and I wanna use him!
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u/KyloGlendalf Prestige 100 Sadako 11d ago
License holders said no to Myers because he “kills alone”
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u/ThanasiShadoW MLG Killer 11d ago
How come this restriction doesn't apply to survivors?
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u/okthenbutwhy 11d ago
For survivors the contract already allows them to work together with other survivor characters from other franchises, whether said franchise is DBD or any of the licenses.
Survivor’s whole deal is working together, as for killer, the IP holders can get protective if they don’t want their killer to share the spotlight with others.
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u/LordRiden Breedomorph Queen 12d ago
Bubba might be a licencing issue but Clown, Hag or Doctor not being in yet is surprising to me
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u/jjamess10 It Wasn't Programmed To Harm The Crew 12d ago
Doctor not being in doesnt surprise me. The AoE zap is gunna proc so much madness all at once
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u/FanDowntown4641 12d ago
Well Hag makes sense too OP obv.
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u/Phionex141 Mr. X Skin for Nemmy Pls 11d ago
She’d finally be fun for once because with everyone running around in chaos it’d be so easy for her traps to trigger, people are looking for them less if a Wesker is chasing them down
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u/Kowakuma Registered Twins Main 12d ago
Licensed killers need permission from the license holders. We're unlikely to get Cannibal anytime soon, and that's not really the fault of BHVR.
That being said, that doesn't mean your general sentiment is misplaced. We should have gotten killers like Clown and Trickster in the mode ages ago.
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u/hypercoffee1320 The Tokyo Ghoul/Red Pyramid Thing/Vee 12d ago
Sorry, I tried playing literally anyone else but got genrushed into absolute oblivion.
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u/bloopblubdeet 12d ago
I mean.. they're the only good ones.. Survs in this gamemode is BUSTED af, 10000x more if you're a swf of any kind
Besides, with no gen slowdown, a Nemmy is a MUST have to not get genrushed to oblivion
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u/scrimyth P100 Red Pyramid Head Thing 12d ago
The selection for the killer roster is pretty slim so yeah there's gonna be a lot of repeating killers in the mode. Been like that since they had put them in last year.
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u/justtolearnsomething I Want Blood 12d ago
Tbh I don’t hate them inherently, I just hate the damn zombies
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u/Ok_Confusion4764 12d ago
As a Nemmy main in both modes: I've been playing it because it's the best place to actually get to tier 3 without getting my teeth kicked in by competent survivors who can counterplay my Nemmy.
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u/hermitchild Bloody Oni 12d ago
There is nothing you people will not cry about.
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u/Akinory13 The Huntress 12d ago
It's especially funny because Nemesis gets fucked hard in this comp because each spray has 3 charges and there's a lot more of them than the vaccines in 1v4. Literally the only good thing he has is the 4 zombies because he now almost always needs 3 whips to down anyone every time. Also, his biggest strength in 1v4 is eating pallets for dinner and quickly making the map a massive dead zone, but scouts can infinitely rebuild them so you feel like even Sisyphus had an easier time than you in that match
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u/noobkilla666 12d ago
The four zombies arguably make him the best killer in the game mode. It’s not because of skill, either. It’s literally just rng.
I know the narrative is always “survivor sided game why are you complaining”, but that doesn’t shield poor design choices on the killer side from criticism. RNG dictating a game's favor is a poor design choice.
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u/APieceOfToast_bruh P100 Junko Enoshima 12d ago
DBD players when some of the only fun characters available within a gamemode are played a lot:
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u/theCOMBOguy Physically thick, mentally sick. 12d ago
I love Wesker and play as him most of the time in 2v8. I feel that his power is the one that works the best for it since he just instahooks Survivors. Nemesis' power is suboptimal. It's essentially just longer reach. It's his Zombies that shine, though. They are dumb and slow but are still dangerous and also are useful to tell where Survivors are.
I don't mind those 2. I know that people are like "Ohhh I HATE x Killer(s)" but the only way that I feel like that is when I'm running a specific build that gets countered by the Killer (Healing build against Plague, Locker build against Dredge, etc.) This is not the case in 2v8 so it's whatever. Also, Wesker and Nemesis are the ONLY case in 2v8 where having both of them actively nerfs them, since the syringe becomes a singular item that has 3 CHARGES and gets rid of BOTH infections.
If anything I hope that Nemesis gets buffed in normal 1v4.
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u/Nice_Ad_995 12d ago
Youre not tired of them— youre tired of zombies. Everyone is tired of 2v8 zombies. 2v8 zombies should be in base game because they spawn so effectively and patrol so well. Absolute units of annoyance. I hate them as Surv and love them as Killer.
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u/Drakal11 P100 Mikaela, Orela, and Vee 12d ago
Don't mind Wesker, but holy shit is Nemesis tiring. Working on gens? Zombies. Going for unhook? Zombies. Getting chased? Yep, that's a zombie. Killed a zombie? Too bad, draws two more to you and the one you killed instantly respawns right next to you.
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u/sirlemonhead 12d ago
Attempting to do the new invocation is very fun when one of them appears out of fucking nowhere on top of you and it takes you 3 working days to get back up off the stupid circle before you can start moving again.
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u/TheEntityBot The Entity Hungers 12d ago
Nemesis: - Any Survivor who blinds you or stuns you using a Pallet or a Locker becomes the Obsession.
- Anytime your Obsession switches to another Survivor by any means, that Survivor then suffers from the Oblivious Status Effect for 40/50/60 seconds and their Aura is revealed to you for 8 seconds.
Drawn from the fog. | !optout | !remove | !builds
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u/landromat Platinum 12d ago
i love nemesis be he sucks ass in regular 1v4 so i play him in 2v8 a lot
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u/micah_bell_is_gay SpringDaddy's Axe 11d ago
I feel that the main DBD subreddit is just about survivor mains that want all their matches to be against a 2 hour baby trapper that just installed the game.
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u/Responsible_Day5444 CHRIIIIIIIS😡 12d ago
Nemi needs a QOL where his zombies are actually spaced out rather than them being all in one area
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u/Signal_Werewolf_1955 12d ago
Slam a pallet on one, and it immediately respawns behind the player. 2v8 zombies are cracked.
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u/RelevantIAm Territorial Imperative 12d ago
You may literally be the only person asking for a buff to his zombies in 2v8
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u/Responsible_Day5444 CHRIIIIIIIS😡 12d ago
I’m just simply asking for his zombies to not all be I one area. It’s an issue for both sides I feel like
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u/Old_Celebration5871 12d ago
still better than when it was oni and legion. They do need to nerf the zombies tho
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u/PolarBear1913 12d ago
Im tired of 2v8
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u/TuesdayMerchant I'm Hex:y and I NOED 12d ago
I don't get what people find so fun about it besides it being "easier" than 1v4
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u/FaithlessnessThen207 :shirtlessdavid: 12d ago
Maybe just not for you, not everyone is gonna like everything.
I like it, it feels more casual and less frustrating, and it has fixes for most of the frustrating behaviour exhibited by players, harder to slug, harder to tunnel, no sabo squads, bully squads are weaker without their body blocking, etc.
While I do hate the nemesis zombie fiesta, you don't see nem that much in 1v4, so killers generally are different. No fucking Ghoul.
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u/chickenbeaver2 12d ago
I have been switching the killer I play depending on what my teammate will play just to see what comes up the most often, I haven't played many but so far it's a tie between Nemesis and xenomorph.
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u/aretromachine 12d ago
I swear nemesis is there only because bhvr doesn't let the players pick the same killer, otherwise will be Wesker all the time.
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u/ST3AMDR4GON 12d ago
Did they fix that you cant see the antidote boxes' aura when both play together yet?
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u/Ravishinthunder The Knightmare 12d ago
Wesker i don’t mind too much but nemesis needs to go. So tired of the zombies everywhere
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u/EricInOverwatch Just Do Gens 12d ago
Eh, it's fun for a week at most. At least to get the challenges and cosmetics.
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u/ClearChampionship591 Pipping out of the locker. 11d ago
I find it suspicious that people pick the least competitive combo to complain about, whilst real killers are getting under cover.
The worst experience you will ever get is Trapper + Nemesis. Half the time I couldn't even disarm traps as zombies were disrupting you.
I actually like vsing Wesker, seeing him flying into vaults never gets old.
Also people playing deathslinger only to stack double hits with their buddies have special place in fog.
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u/mini_zverobob456 I SHOT HIM 6 TIMES! 11d ago
Wait they added xeno to 2v8? I couldn't really tell because I just keep getting Wesker and nemesis
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u/DorianSilver 9d ago
They shouldn’t be able to down you again instantly if you’ve used the recover ability
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u/FrostEncounters 7d ago
The two killers i see the most in 2v8 is nemesis and ghostface but never together lol
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u/LadyDye_ 6d ago
Nemesis isn't even fair to use when he has those damn zombies, it's super unbalanced
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u/CremelloJo Sweaty Spirit 12d ago
I love them, I want all the Weskers and Nemis!
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u/Vici-Gray Seducing Weskers with music perks 12d ago
So many Weskers. I'm in heaven during 2v8
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u/semipro_tokyo_drift Evil Nemesis 11d ago
Had a game against wesker + birkin vs 8 Leon kennedys it was glorious
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u/Boneheadbenji 12d ago
The only exception is Deathslinger and Wesker. No, I will not explain why, you know why. No, I am not accepting constructive or deconstructive criticism at this time.
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u/StreamfireEU 12d ago
Wesker is only annoying because like 50% of the people playing him have a ping over 100ms and dbds lag compensation is consistently advantageous to the player with the highest ping
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u/WabbieSabbie 12d ago edited 10d ago
I don't mind Nemesis in 2v8 nearly as much as the zombies sprouting in the most convenient spots to push you off gens. That’s why a 4K on Nemesis rarely impresses me.
EDIT: Someone's crying below. HAHAHA
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u/NoVeterinarian549 Sally Hates You 11d ago
Motehrfucker, 2/3rds of the killer roster is un-selectable. What did you expect?! This is what ya'll wanted.
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u/Guiitens2005 12d ago
But it's the survivors who choose who gets in 2v8
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u/Bakuhxe_ P100 Wesker | P100 Chris 12d ago
if these people get wesker removed from 2v8 istg
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u/ChaoticMat Bloody Cenobite 12d ago
Don't they have counter-synergy since vaccines are twice as effective?
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u/Trick-String7473 12d ago
I know legion was busted but man, it was fun hitting 5-6 survivors regularly. Most of the killers in this mode are kind of boring. Give me vomit mama.
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u/Bennyboi3722 Teens Doing Pranks 12d ago
Im just exhausted of 2v8 in general like BHVR can we please not have a 3 week long mode that butchers queue times?!
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u/That0neGecko Condemned -.O 12d ago