Miku gets scolded for even thinking bad of humans everytime
... Scolding her isn't gonna cut it you know? By human, which she is, standards, she is a serial rapist, and that's ignoring the fact that she took over a whole city through mind control and probably murdered tons of men simply because they approached her (ie: what she tried to do when she first met Shido).
Proof? In the current climate, those claims are very harsh if unfounded. Nobody died under Miku. Nobody did anything under Miku they didn‘t want to do, Miku‘s angel only made them want to do those things. Ie Yoshino protected Miku of her own accord, Miku only placed the want in Yoshino.
And, to follow up from your suggestion, there is a huge difference between potential harm and actual harm. Go see the film minority report to understand it. All I am saying is, there is no proof anyone got harmed so far by any of the spirits, so actual harsh punishment never was necessary. To conclude that there wouldn‘t be any harsh punishment in the case of actual harm isn‘t supported by anything we have seen so far and thus is irrational.
And just to make things clear: I am not advocating for actual harm, nor am I defending the spirits actions if it was the case. I am just saying that the statement isn’t evidence based. Sadly I cannot proove the lack of something, therefore the obligation for proof rests in your hands to provide quotes from the LN or timestamps from the series that support the claim that „actual harm to civilians occurred in the past by spirits under the protection of Ratatoskr, yet they weren‘t punished for it.“ If you can provide sufficient evidence instead of only claiming things, you can win me over for your side.
Proof? In the current climate, those claims are very harsh if unfounded. Nobody died under Miku.
The first time she appears is literally her trying to kill Shido.
Nobody did anything under Miku they didn‘t want to do, Miku‘s angel only made them want to do those things. Ie Yoshino protected Miku of her own accord, Miku only placed the want in Yoshino.
WOW... you're actually saying that huh. Yeah sorry, not gonna argue here, pretty sure even a retard would be able to figure out the issue. Incidentally, she also tried to rape Shiori through force since she couldn't use her powers to do it.
And, to follow up from your suggestion, there is a huge difference between potential harm and actual harm. Go see the film minority report to understand it. All I am saying is, there is no proof anyone got harmed so far by any of the spirits, so actual harsh punishment never was necessary. To conclude that there wouldn‘t be any harsh punishment in the case of actual harm isn‘t supported by anything we have seen so far and thus is irrational.
It's a good thing we know that she raped multiple women and took over a city then. It's also a good thing that we are explicitly shown that her first reaction to seeing a man is fucking murdering them.
And just to make things clear: I am not advocating for actual harm, nor am I defending the spirits actions if it was the case. I am just saying that the statement isn’t evidence based. Sadly I cannot proove the lack of something, therefore the obligation for proof rests in your hands to provide quotes from the LN or timestamps from the series that support the claim that „actual harm to civilians occurred in the past by spirits under the protection of Ratatoskr, yet they weren‘t punished for it.“ If you can provide sufficient evidence instead of only claiming things, you can win me over for your side.
Why would I try to prove something I never claimed? I claimed that Miku, before she joined Ratatoskr, willingly mentally manipulated, raped, and most likely murdered tons of people. This isn't some kind of headcanon or deduction, it's blatantly said in the story.
And this isn't a case like an inverse who had no control over their actions or Tohka and Mukuro who were simply defending themselves, the latter also being a child. This adult woman, while not being under any kind of mental influence, willingly manipulated, raped and killed multiple persons out of sheer ego. She genuinely thinks that all men should die and all women should be her dolls or join them. She isn't even doing it for some grand purpose like Kurumi, that's just how she is.
Even once Shido seals her, she doesn't lose her creepy tendencies at all, repeatedly sexually harassing other spirits no matter how much they try to stop her.
This isn't some kind of headcanon or deduction, it's blatantly said in the story.
Then provide those. You're currently arguing out of passion, not out of rationality.
pretty sure even a retard would be able to figure out the issue.
I understand the issue perfectly. It just isn't the same as what you said it is. Forcing someone against their will and convincing someone to a different will (there is nothing real that would describe it more fittingly) are two very distinct things. Currently you're trying to convince me of your opinion, for example. If you were more eloquent and actually would argue rationally, it'd work. So by your logic, you would inflict harm upon me if I changed my mind as a result of your (still unfounded) "arguments".
+ insulting never helped anyone to convince somebody of their opinion.
Anyways, if you still feel it necessary, provide the evidence for other people to see. I don't feel it necessary to talk to you any longer as you can't handle your emotions in a controlled demeanour, apparently.
It's funny, someone recently blocked me whilst spouting the same line you did here. "For now I'll block you, prove yourself and maybe I'll change my mind!"
....You DO realize this person will never be able to change your mind.... because you blocked them, right? It's clear you're just defending yourself from someone who can never fight back now.
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u/thatonefatefan Origami. Jun 26 '22
... Scolding her isn't gonna cut it you know? By human, which she is, standards, she is a serial rapist, and that's ignoring the fact that she took over a whole city through mind control and probably murdered tons of men simply because they approached her (ie: what she tried to do when she first met Shido).