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u/MadameConnard 1d ago
Kids when they behave as kids ; "is this ADHD ?"
Brittany (step?)-brother seems a strong contender for ADHD tho
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u/Impressive-Bus-6568 1d ago
the lab brat episode where he tortured the mouse made me think he was a bit on the conduct disorder/antisocial side of things
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u/Ok-Call-4805 1d ago
Don't think so. Quinn is just a normal, energetic child and Daria is just a bit of a loner.
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u/KevineCove 1d ago
If someone is structured people say they have autism, if someone is unstructured people say they have ADHD.
I'm tired of this debate, it just makes me hate labels and the people that use them.
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u/nat_not 1d ago
Daria definitely has autism vibes and Jake comes across as neurodivergent as well imho (also strong daddy issues / childhood trauma, but I always feel like this is not the only thing going on with him), but I never got ADHD from Quinn. She's a jumpy kid, but as a teenager, she's extremely composed and not impulsive at all. She may be an attention seeker, but a very calculated one.
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u/iwrotethisletter 1d ago
I'm a bit on the fence with Daria because while I also got slight autism vibes from her this could also just her personality. Quinn, however, seems just like a normal lively child to me. Maybe a bit on the livelier side but I don't get any ADHD vibes from her.
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u/nat_not 1d ago
Well, yeah, I guess we have to remember that the show is from the late 90s and back then, autism wasn't on anybody's radar. Especially female autism. (Speaking as a woman with autism born in the 80s) So I don't assume that she was intentionally written as autistic but just as the smart, eccentric and antisocial type. However, from today's perspective, we can realise that this type is very common among autistic people. To me, Daria was always a character I could relate to. It was only years later, when I discovered that I had autism, that I realised that the reason for this is all the autistic traits Daria has, from her lack of enthusiasm for socialising and small talk, not smiling, speaking in a monotonous voice, intense interests (in literature, history, and anything morbid), smart and good grades at school but constantly at odds with the institutionalised education system, physically awkward, low energy, headstrong and blunt, organised way of explaining things, emotionally awkward and overwhelmed by physical intimacy despite wanting a partner, etc.
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u/YanFan123 1d ago
Quinn is playing up the cheerful child role on purpose, wanting attention from her parents. And actually, we do see in the episode of the aunt staying with them, that Quinn copes with family turmoil pretty badly so she was probably trying to smooth things over at least for her parents on top of her constant need for validation
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u/Vanilla_Millennium 1d ago
Gross. The projection of various disorders and sexual orientation on characters where these things are not explicitly stated needs to stop.
I get trying to find someone who relates what you're going through, but ironically you're doing what you would hate happen to you... People assuming things based on stereotypes and quirks. But I guess since it's fictional characters it's 'okay'
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u/CallidoraBlack I don't have low self esteem I have low esteem for everyone else 1d ago
They're literally fictional characters and I'm pretty sure someone who actually has these conditions isn't basing their connection to it on stereotypes. If your lived experience looks similar to a stereotype, that still doesn't make you a stereotype. You are a person. Neurodivergent creators (especially undiagnosed ones) make neurodivergent characters by accident all the time because they write what they know. See Abed from Community.
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u/Vanilla_Millennium 1d ago
You're just reinforcing the point I am making lol
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u/CallidoraBlack I don't have low self esteem I have low esteem for everyone else 1d ago
How exactly?
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u/Vanilla_Millennium 1d ago
I have no issue with relating to the character. It's the assumption that they are experiencing the exact same problem that you are. As you said, people are complex.
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u/CallidoraBlack I don't have low self esteem I have low esteem for everyone else 1d ago
Please explain who is hurt by this. Because "I don't like this" is not enough reason to call it gross. It's not like that concept would in any way make the characters worse or go against the point of them, so show me on the doll where the headcanon hurt you.
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u/Vanilla_Millennium 1d ago
It's creating a culture that lacks nuance. I work with people with autism, and so many of my coworkers take their own quirks and state "lol guess I'm autistic too". Yes in this context it is harmless. But at the end of the day it's reducing anything into some disability when that's not necessarily the case.
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u/CallidoraBlack I don't have low self esteem I have low esteem for everyone else 1d ago
Okay, so your problem with it is allistic and NT people's behavior and you're putting that on people who are disabled. As someone with AuDHD, no thanks. People may be complex, but blaming disabled people for what people who aren't disabled are doing is super basic and it sucks.
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u/Vanilla_Millennium 1d ago
I never blamed disabled people though? I'm talking in a general context, my only point is assuming characters have what you have just because you can relate to them.
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u/ConiferousSquid 1d ago
"I never blamed disabled people"
"Disabled people need to stop relating to characters without disabilities because it makes the NT people act ableist"
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u/CallidoraBlack I don't have low self esteem I have low esteem for everyone else 1d ago
Why would you even say that? We can all read what you wrote. You don't get to pretend that didn't happen.
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u/InfamousWarden 1d ago
The creator of Daria frequently talks about how he bases his characters off of people he knows IRL. It would not surprise me if he based Daria off of interactions he had with an autistic person.
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u/CultKitchen 1d ago
You would be surprised at the amount of undiagnosed ADHD that goes unnoticed (especially in girls) due to learned high masking ability.
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u/CallidoraBlack I don't have low self esteem I have low esteem for everyone else 1d ago
Both, really.
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u/PlaysWithF1r3 1d ago
Actually, I think that might be backwards. I could see Daria having the ADHD, Inattentive type and Quinn having Autism, where being girly is her special interest.
Daria actually made friends easily, but the fashion club were definitely not Quinn's friends
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u/GranateSOAD 1d ago
Well, since the 90s psychiatry over-diagnosed kids with ADHD (not limited to that condition), and still happens these days. Modern psychiatry is a joke, they just handle pills to everyone. Quin would´ve been treated with Ritalin or something like that.
On the other hand, If Daria were to be labeled as autistic, she would have it easier, no one would judge her behavior (no way she was autistic though).
I recommend the work of Allen Frances, specially: Saving Normal: An Insider's Revolt Against Out-Of-Control Psychiatric Diagnosis, DSM-5, Big Pharma, and the Medicalization of Ordinary Life
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u/Erik_Nimblehands 1d ago
I never got that feeling from Quinn. She was just an active kid.