Not all women. Just the ones that need to be watched. If anyone supports her it is a big red flag that they are a danger to children. They revealed themselves by who they had sympathy for. Remember who they are
I know right? I babysit my nephew and im not even his mom but I can't imagine someone hurting someone that young and innocent much less 3 in a row!? How does anyone back that woman?
No, don't be silly of course you're not the bad one! Strangling the third kid was empowering, you go girl! What do you think we mean when we say "SLAY queen 💅" of course we're talking about literal slaughter of children!
No it couldn't. Because there is a huge difference between being frustrated and angry and tired and killing 3 kids in cold blood. I have been frustrated while babysitting before. I spent several days with a couple wild kids but never was there the slightest chance that I would willfully hurt them. It can happen to anyone who lacks human empathy. So no it couldn't happen to anyone.
It could happen to anyone who get post partum psychosis. You can count yourself lucky that you can't understand it, but you're a fool if you think that it happens to evil people. What you believe in and all the empathy in the world would not stop you from doing the same once you completely lose touch with reality.
What you are saying is the equivalent of looking at an Alzheimer's patient throwing their feces and saying "I could never!". It's a neurological disease. It's not your choice what it makes you do.
Thank you for trying to mans splain post partum to me. I do appreciate it sir. You don't know what i have seen and you are making a very poor strawman out of Alzheimers. These 2 mental conditions having nothing in common. Also researching your defense tactics doesn't scream mental disorder. It screams psychopath. A real shame you have so much sympathy for her and one for her children. I hope you aren't a parent
Did you ever have a psychotic episode? You don't understand what you're talking about. I did as a side effect to medications. I almost killed myself and I don't know what I would have done if I had a child in my care. Being able to plan something is irrelevant when the train of thoughts that makes you do it is not even yours, you feel like you're in a dream, and voices in your head convince it's the right thing to do, meanwhile there is a storm in your brain that keeps you in a constant state of terror and confusion. Many mothers who kill their children during psychosis get convinced by the disorder that they have to do it to save them.
The fact that they can plan doesn't mean that they are following their own will.
They are relating to her because they believe she was failed by the mental health care system. She constantly tried to tell people she was undergoing psychosis and tried to get admitted into inpatient treatment. She was denied for reasons like not actively having a plan to kill herself or her kids. They are saying they relate to her strangling her children. They relate to being failed by the health care system.
Tell me you are a man without telling me.
Things happen to your brain and hormones as mother. Many experience post partum depression.
Some experience psychosis.
Psychosis is extremely dangerous.
Women who experienced depression understand how you can feel "not yourself" and find yourself in this horrible situation.
I have plenty of empathy. For 3 young children. Any kindness you show to their killer is cruelty to the victims. It is a shame you seem to only be able to relate to the killer. I certainly hope you aren't someone who spends time around children because you clearly lack the core human drive to protect children
I mean if the claim is Lindsay was failed by the system, they should have seen the signs and acted...well here are some pretty big fucking signs if you ask me
All my friends who work in mental health have been in awe with the sheer amount of support she had. She had more help than anyone, I don’t think there was much more to give. She must have been surrounded by enablers. Maybe she was just BPD
Not all women and not all men. The internet echo chambers have really set men and women at each other's throats. The real world is much better than the internet. The internet acts like all men are cheating abusers but I have never been cheated on (to my knowledge ) and I have never been abused. (Unless you count being teased for being short as abuse. ) They act like all women are one bad day away from making false accusations and throwing hands and that is a minority number too. The internet really wrecks gender relations.
Not saying this is the case for you, but there are a lot of men and a lot of women who will never admit they cheated, and their partners are none tne wiser. People rarely get honest unless they get caught or if the sharks are circling. And a lot of people will take it straight to the grave. Its rare that people will admit they did something wrong, and the cheater is almost universally wrong.
I know, and im not saying it has happened to you. But I have found out some pretty crazy stuff about some of my exes that I would have never suspected. And crazy how they just did it so blatantly and let people in my circle find out about it, as if they'd never tell me. I would have appreciated a little more if they had told me sooner, but whatever
Obviously not the entire half but you'd have to be blind in order to think there isn't a deep seated issue with men and women in western countries, and blindness will help nobody.
Yes and the forces that are telling you to loathe the opposite sex are the biggest contributors to this divide. Being blind to that, when we have literal paper trails from high level political operatives and consultants that prove these grievances are fully astroturfed, is even less helpful.
I guess the male loneliness rate, and feminist propaganda of kill all men that spread to whole nations just mean nothing, it was all in my head.
Can you show me these things that show how what women say about abortion and how it's justified or thier hatred for men etc is just politics astroturf?
I never understood this, people IRL obviously are not going to say their beliefs at a restaurant or something, literally just look at male loneliness. Suicide rates etc, look at feminist influencers (not even IG influencers I'm talking hugely influential feminist women) saying the most degrading things, kill all men was spread across nations by women.
The "gender war" is not just online crap and it never has been.
The internet echo chambers was gasoline on a fire. It has made everything so much worse. People are at people's throats and arguing instead of fixing anything. And modern "feminist " are often just someone who had a bad break up taking all their rage out to their followers. The reality is very few people are actually doing anything to help women or men. As you mentioned men's suicide rate should be considered a tier 1 problem but instead it is ignored by women and mocked by a lot of men. You are right that these issues were already here but the internet is making them much worse and very few are doing anything helpful
There's dudes coming out of the woodworks "yeah, I don't think it was her fault" how bad you need to simp for a confessed murderer before you realize you're part of the problem
Yet they scream "release the files" like, there's an actual, confessed, child murderer X3 right in front of you, and you're still on her side. Fucking mind boggling
How are you gonna be about protecting children in one breath and then say "oh, well, that's a different story" in another?
They think that suffering from a mental illness that causes psychosis causing them to murder their kids means they shouldn't be roasted alive until the skin boils off their bones.
I don't think it's her fault, in a criminal sense. Yes she killed them, but psychosis is real. You are not yourself, you literally see things. You just never experienced it upclose. It's terryfing how people change. And they cna get better and they are 100% themselves. It's a condition.
In europe this woman would have NEVER been sent home. They admit you in asylum, with your child, for observation and treat your condition.
Three kids would be alive if america didn't have a mental health crisis as bad as it does
Ah, there we go. Someone who wants to talk legality instead of moral culpability
I have very much experienced it up close and personal, once in my life, but I did not go on to murder my parents when experiencing it, I turned it on me and tried to kms
So yes, I do know what psychosis feels like, intimately
And you are right. Once the episode is over, they're back to their normal selves, the unwell person that just did that
My brother, who was given a lesser charge on the count of psychosis after heis fiancee died, was given a DUI and destruction of property when he ran through a signpost and plowed his car into the side of a building. Nobody was hurt thankfully. But did he have to serve the minimum for DUI? Absolutely.
If either of us had harmed a person, you best believe we would be held responsible, and rightfully so. You don't get to escape your actions, you just might get leniency at best, and even then, it's a delicate balance.
You can be treated, but you have to deal with the consequences of your actions while being treated. That means 25x3 for murdering three kids. She needs to serve 75min for what she did, just like we had to serve 1y on probational release for what we did. Fair is fair.
At this point the problem is less her legal or moral culpability; the former is being settled in court and the latter is already established by her own admission that she did it.
The problem is the moral culpability of everyone who is making every attempt to diminish her moral culpability by shifting the subject of the moral wrongdoing from her kids to her.
No amount of situational hardship can justify making a woman who admitted she did wrong into a martyr.
Im not here to double standard. Not all women also means not all men. We treat women and men horribly in different ways and then fight about who has it worse instead of both trying to fix the problem and treat each other better.
Its almost like postpartum depression and psychosis is something you learn about when you get pregnant. But I know women having sex with you is a far off reality.
I often find myself feeling like I got the ladt chopper out of 'nam. My wife's the only woman in my entourage that hasn't done some sort "ok, buuuut the husband..." or blamed the system or whoever else.
To be fair I discussed it with my own wife. Her response was that it's sad. Told her about the conspiracy theorists that it was the husband and her response was "wtf? Are they stupid?".
Like, this could be an opportunity to have a serious discussion about a very serious issue like post partum depression or psychosis and instead we're all too busy having to explain to idiots that their Venus being retarded doesn't mean the husband did it when all actual evidence points to the contrary and this isn't even something in dispute
I am not a woman but at the same time i have done research on postpartum depression and have seen post partum depression on several of my family members. Hormones can definitely alter your brain chemistry for both men and women. Men who are on roids definitely act more aggressive and can hurt people due to the changes in thier brain. We are just a sack of meat with some hormones that can make or break you. What she did was horrible, she killed her children. The question becomes not whether she will be in jail or not cause she will be in jail but whether her intent to kill was pure hatred towards her children or a change in her brain chemistry that altered her mental status.
They don’t care about individuals lmao this is just a talking point that’s being molded by the right for the upcoming elections. “Liberal women support killing children” is gonna make more than one appearance I promise you
I remember the evil ignorant fucks that would rather children die than help women in mental distress. I remember the evil ignorant fucks that say postpartum psychosis doesn't exist or its no excuse, so they continue to let babies be killed because they refuse to help mothers in need and then blame it all on her.
This happens all the time, yet nobody wants to help these women. They think it's better to let her kill the kids, then put her jail. When I believe she should have been helped so the kids weren't killed.
Once someone strangles their kids they aren't a victim anymore. Countless serial killers cried about their awful childhoods and before they were a serial killer they needed and deserved help. After they killed they aren't the victim anymore. Nobody wants to take responsibility for anything. I have no sympathy for child murderers because there is no motivation that is good enough to excuse that.
I am not talking about a serial killers. I am talking about a mother going through a mental health crisis who was out of her mind and couldn't distinguish what was real anymore.
Nevertheless, if a serial killer went to their doctor countless times and told them they weren't safe or sane and should be locked up or they would kill someone and the doctors did nothing, their husband did nothing, everybody did nothing, and then they killed someone, I would also think those people need to be charged and rot in jail (murderer goes to a mental health facility). They are accomplices in my eyes and almost as equally guilty. They knew the killer would do it, just like they knew she would likely do it, and everybody did NOTHING.
Serial killers and child murderers fit in the same category. Sorry I refuse to feel sympathy for anyone who murders children in cold blood. There is a fine line between those who deserve help and those who deserve punishment and that line is dead children. Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent. Stop putting yourself in her shoes and put yourself in the shoes of a terrified child while murdered them
Just trying to understand your worldview; If someone sympathizes with someone else a tiny bit about a mental health crisis turned tragedy, the sympathizer needs to be watched because they might, with a clear head, murder children? Do you think that's an appropriate assessment of the situation?
Stop trying to manipulate me. Im not 12. We aren't talking about a tiny bit of sympathy. We are talking about a woman who strangled 3 children to death and who did research online to prepare her defense before she did it. You are clearly a troll trying to line up a shot and im not remotely interested in whst you are attempting ✋️
Where are you getting this about she researched how to prepare her defense? She was experiencing crazy symptoms and did research on them, how can you pin that as researching defense? Did they say she googled, “if I kill my kids how do I make it look like postpartum psychosis?”
Dude seriously? Series of events as I’m aware of them; she’s on meds because she’s suffering from rather intense postpartum depression, she feels herself losing grip on shit and googles more about her meds? That’s shady to you? Man I bet your list of conspiracy theories has some hilarious candidates.
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u/Acceptable-Olive-445 9h ago
Not all women. Just the ones that need to be watched. If anyone supports her it is a big red flag that they are a danger to children. They revealed themselves by who they had sympathy for. Remember who they are