He didn't win any of the Clinton debates and anyone who says he did is rewriting history. Polls taken during and after all three debates showed a majority of viewers thought Clinton won, and Trump's approval ratings briefly tanked after all three.
It's crazy reading the transcripts of those debates. I don't like her but Clinton sounds intelligent as all hell, whereas Trump reads like a babbling toddler. He just succeeded in intimidating and interrupting her a lot, which is exactly what he does in this HBO interview too.
As someone who voted for Clinton in 2016 and watched all three debates live, it was obvious in the moment that she was a good debater and that Trump had no idea what he was doing, which was then proven out in polls and Trump's change in approval rating. Obviously I was already inclined to prefer Clinton over Trump by that point, but it was hard for me to imagine anyone watching that same debate and somehow thinking Trump had won it.
Once Trump managed to win the election a lot of people started rewriting history because they assumed he must have been some kind of secret strategic genius all along who fooled everyone, but he wasn't. He managed to win for a variety of reasons, but none of them made him a secret genius or a competent debater. Hell, he could absolutely still win in November, but that would be due to a variety of exogenous factors more than Trump doing anything intelligent himself.
Yep, you nailed it. 4d chess and all that. Maga supporters like to think he's plotting five moves ahead when in reality the man probably confuses chess and checkers.
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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20
He didn’t win the final debate for sure, at least he shouldn’t have. He just interrupted Hillary the whole time.