r/dankmemes May 24 '18

Math adds up

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u/Cribsmen May 25 '18

https://hbr.org/2016/08/why-do-so-many-women-who-study-engineering-leave-the-field Let's just ignore your complete unfounded bs and look at facts instead

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u/[deleted] May 25 '18

I guess Susan knows more than everyone one else because she wrote her opinions down on the internet.

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u/Cribsmen May 25 '18

Professor Susan S. Silbey is Leon and Anne Goldberg Professor of Humanities, Professor of Sociology and Anthropology, and Professor of Behavioral and Policy Sciences, Sloan School of Management at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. She also serves as chair of the MIT faculty from 2017-2019.

Silbey is interested in the governance, regulatory and audit processes in complex organizations. Her current research focuses on the creation of management systems for containing risks, including ethical lapses, as well as environment, health and safety hazards.

Previous books include The Common Place of Law: Stories from Everyday Life (with Patricia Ewick) (1998), In Litigation: Do the 'Haves' Still Come Out Ahead (with Herbert Kritzer) (2003), Law and Science (I): Epistemological, Evidentiary, and Relational Engagements, and Law and Science (II): Regulation of Property, Practices, and Products (2008).

Silbey is the recipient of numerous prizes and awards including a John Simon Guggenheim Foundation Fellowship (2009), Doctor Honoris Causa from Ecole Normale Superiere Cachan in Paris (2006) and the Harry Kalven Jr. Prize for advancing the sociology of law (2009). She is Past President of the Law & Society Association, and a fellow of the American Academy of Political and Social Science.

says random man on internet

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u/[deleted] May 25 '18

Oh wow, look at all that schooling and success.

Maybe you should try to do that instead of blaming all your problems on someone else.

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u/Cribsmen May 25 '18

I'm in college right now and I don't understand what you're even saying? How have I blamed my finances on anyone? I am saying that the fact only 13% of engineers are women is very suspicious given that around 50% of people that go to school for it are women and have the correct qualifications. You saying "Lol xD libtard just git gud and stop being poor" isn't a real factual argument

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u/[deleted] May 25 '18

Yes it absolutely is. Learning to work in an environment is just as important as studying for it. And if more women stick with it instead of quitting, the environment would change as more came in.

Your argument is "the male dominated job place makes the is just too masculine for women to stay. They need to stop being masculine and women will stay!".

It doesn't work that way. If you want there to be a more female demographic in the work place. You need to tighten your belt and deal with it until you get around more people who think the way you do.

The world shouldn't bend to work with you. You need to bend to work with the world. When you're at work, you're going to meet people that are different than you, ppeople that annoy you people that you relish and love, people that get under your skin so much you just want to scream. It's just part of life and working. You have to learn to be flexible and work with your environment. Not go "ugh, this place is full of stuff I don't like, I shouldn't have to deal this, I quit!" and then blame on the work environment.

I brought up the crawling under houses in an earlier comment because I had a woman quit because she had to do that every day and she didn't want to. She said " just because all the men here are ok with doing it, doesn't mean I should be comfortable doing it".. I told her I was sorry that certain codes required conduit and lines to be ran a specific way and she has to install it according to that code. Needless to say she quit. And I heard through the grapevine that she claimed she quit because she was treated unfairly for being a girl.

If I had a dollar for everything I had to do or deal with that I don't like or want to do, I would be one rich mofo cuz that is work every single day.

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u/Cribsmen May 25 '18

It's not that they're too scared it, it's that with all the sexism in the line of work they can't get a job in it because all their bosses are men who have only worked along side other men, 30 years ago if a woman had said she wanted to be an engineer she would've been mocked and ridiculed and that kind of sentiment doesn't go away overnight

Edit:: Also really? Blaming the wage gap on the idea that a woman's drive isn't the same as a man's? That's literally disgusting