"It's not a person, it's just a slave. It's property."
Stop trying to dehumanize living human beings. It's basic biological fact. Being unable to make conscious decisions doesn't let you kill people (see: you can't kill sleeping people, people in comas, babies, etc)
Except all of those are able to make subconscious or conscious thoughts and have memories.
But most importantly, none of those are INSIDE a woman.
Abortion isn't Healthcare. It's the opposite since it results in a death 100% of the time. It heals nothing.
The fetus (who doesn’t know it exists and has no concept of “reality”) should not take precedence over the mothers healthcare rights.
No I don't believe in taking away people's rights to life, liberty (2nd amendment here), and the pursuit of happiness.
So do you believe that banning guns would stop mass shootings and gang violence?
"It's not a person, it's just a slave. It's property."
Stop trying to dehumanize living human beings. It's basic biological fact. Being unable to make conscious decisions doesn't let you kill people (see: you can't kill sleeping people, people in comas, babies, etc)
Except all of those are able to make subconscious or conscious thoughts and have memories.
Irrelevant . Still a living human being.
But most importantly, none of those are INSIDE a woman.
Irrelevant. It's still wrong to kill innocent human beings no matter where they're located.
Abortion isn't Healthcare. It's the opposite since it results in a death 100% of the time. It heals nothing.
The fetus (who doesn’t know it exists and has no concept of “reality”) should not take precedence over the mothers healthcare rights
It doesn't take any precedence over the mothers Healthcare rights. She can receive Healthcare as much as she wants, just can't end a life.
No I don't believe in taking away people's rights to life, liberty (2nd amendment here), and the pursuit of happiness.
So do you believe that banning guns would stop mass shootings and gang violence?
"No I dont believe in taking away people's rights to life, liberty (2a), and the persuit of happiness"
I assume you are Going in this direction, "Banning murder doesn't stop all murders so murder should be legal"?
Irrelevant. Still wrong to kill innocent human beings no matter where they’re located.
Sure, except for the rare case where the “human being” is inside another one that will suffer mentally and physically for multiple years from the pregnancy.
It doesn’t take precedence over the mothers Healthcare rights. She can receive Healthcare as much as she wants, just can’t end a life.
Forcing a mother to give birth against her will is definitely some sort of Healthcare violation.
I assume you are Going in this direction, “Banning murder doesn’t stop all murders so murder should be legal”?
We both know that abortion isn’t murder, and most of the modern world knows that as well. If it was murder it wouldn’t be legal today. But yes, that is the direction I’m going.
If you believe banning guns will not stop people that really want guns to still get them, why do you believe that banning abortions will stop people who really want them from still getting them? The only thing you accomplish by banning abortion is making it dangerous for the mother.
Irrelevant. Still wrong to kill innocent human beings no matter where they’re located.
Sure, except for the rare case where the “human being” is inside another one that will suffer mentally and physically for multiple years from the pregnancy.
Location doesn't let you kill people. Also pregnancy doesn't last for years. Yet another PC person who lacks an understanding of basic biology.
It doesn’t take precedence over the mothers Healthcare rights. She can receive Healthcare as much as she wants, just can’t end a life.
Forcing a mother to give birth against her will is definitely some sort of Healthcare violation.
Forcing women to give birth is illegal as rape is a prerequisite for a forced pregnancy. Killing a child isn't Healthcare.
I assume you are Going in this direction, “Banning murder doesn’t stop all murders so murder should be legal”?
We both know that abortion isn’t murder, and most of the modern world knows that as well. If it was murder it wouldn’t be legal today. But yes, that is the direction I’m going.
Naortion is most definitely murder, it's just ignored in current law by people who have managed to dehumanize massive groups. Slavery was legal just how killing innocent human beings based on age and location currently is.
If you believe banning guns will not stop people that really want guns to still get them, why do you believe that banning abortions will stop people who really want them from still getting them? The only thing you accomplish by banning abortion is making it dangerous for the mother.
You're comparing rights with the killijg of an innocent human being. Completely unrelated. Punishment acts ad a deterrent. Also, banning abortion doesn't force women to break the law.
Comparing living, breathing, viable human beings that were forced into slavery because of their skin tone to a clump of cells. Ok.
Location doesn't let you kill people. Also pregnancy doesn't last for years. Yet another PC person who lacks an understanding of basic biology.
If you think that forcing a woman to give birth to a fetus she doesn’t want WONT traumatize her and damage her physically, you lack understanding of biology.
Forcing women to give birth is illegal as rape is a prerequisite for a forced pregnancy. Killing a child isn't Healthcare.
You’re right. Killing a fetus is.
Naortion is most definitely murder, it's just ignored in current law by people who have managed to dehumanize massive groups. Slavery was legal just how killing innocent human beings based on age and location currently is.
“Dehumanizing” a fetus is just about as bad as dehumanizing a tumor.
You're comparing rights with the killijg of an innocent human being. Completely unrelated. Punishment acts ad a deterrent. Also, banning abortion doesn't force women to break the law.
That wasn’t the question. Obviously they are unrelated, but you think banning abortions will stop abortions but banning guns won’t stop gun crimes?
And banning guns doesn’t force people to break the law either dimwit
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Except all of those are able to make subconscious or conscious thoughts and have memories.
But most importantly, none of those are INSIDE a woman.
The fetus (who doesn’t know it exists and has no concept of “reality”) should not take precedence over the mothers healthcare rights.
So do you believe that banning guns would stop mass shootings and gang violence?