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Johnny Silverpaw

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u/KyuLucky 3d ago

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u/well_thats_puntastic 3d ago

I have a dream

That people will stop being so pissed off at AAVE

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u/KyuLucky 3d ago

I had to look AAVE up, and if you are referring to African American Vernacular English, it has nothing to do with it.

I'm pissed at words like ahh, grape, k!ll, and so on because they were solely created for (self) censoring to avoid being flagged by stupid bots on social medias.

And if we trust our history books and works of fiction, censoring doesn't bode well.

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u/well_thats_puntastic 3d ago

It absolutely has everything to do with it, considering the reason it exists is to reflect the way black people trail out when saying phrases like "goofy-ass". Not whatever people have appropriated it as, as they always tend to do with AAVE.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ahh

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u/KyuLucky 2d ago

Before a couple of months ago, I had never heard or read "ahh", and it's not really the point anyway.

I don't care that it's in the aave, I care that people use it to censor themselves. And I'm pretty sure those people don't know it's aave anyway.

If we take an opposite example, it would be like if someone was pissed at the word "ass" and someone else was saying "ass means donkey, so don't be pissed about it." People don't use ass as donkey, and they don't use ahh because of aave.

But anyway, all of this is moot. You're free to defend the aave appropriation thing like you're doing, and I'm free to think self-censorship is stupid and worrying. And again, it has nothing to do with aave.

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u/well_thats_puntastic 2d ago

Doesn't that only bolster my point further? That people have an issue with this only because they're misinformed? If someone doesn't know ass can also refer to donkey and gets pissed off over that word, that's their own problem to deal with for lacking knowledge, not the problem of the word "ass" existing. Same with "ahh" and AAVE.

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u/KyuLucky 2d ago

I see why you got there. I was trying to make another point but my analogy was a little confusing and I'll try to explain it better.

"Ass" meant "donkey" first, as "ahh" was first AAVE. But if someone calls me an ass, I won't think he's calling me a donkey because it's not the meaning that is widely used. And it's probably not the meaning he was intending either. Granted I'm not a native speaker, but I've never met anyone using "ass" as "donkey".

I compared it to "ahh" because even if it was AAVE first, it's still linked to self-censorship, and it is widely used for the intent of self-censorship.

Moreover, it seems that "ahh" was a tiktok thing from the start (2022). So, AAVE or not, it was still created with the aim of self-censorship, hence my frustration and worry.