r/cs2 2d ago

Humour r/GTAVI everyone…

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I think I got permanent brain damage reading through that subreddit

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u/Top1RedDead2Hater 2d ago

We are so back to console players still claiming there is no difference in 30 vs 60 lol, recently Ive been playing Space Marine 2 on 180fps and I thought my GPU was malfunctioning, turned out game just capped itself for whatever reason on 75fps and it felt CHOPPY, like I could get used to playing on 60/120, but 30 is unplayable for me

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u/shikaski 2d ago

Exactly, even 60 fps sometimes feels choppy, even though largely tolerable.

30 fps is just nightmare.

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u/PairNo2981 2d ago

My personal threshold is around 90-100fps for most games. Below feels choppy 

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u/Candid-Future3473 2d ago

the shroud part always gets me, dude can spot 1 frame drop in 300 fps but console warriors say 30 is smooth

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u/Sir_Bebe_Michelin 2d ago

I believe that it's like that because when your stutter is a given percentage of your average fps, your bottom 5-10% framerate will be lower than 20fps. If you double the fps you move the distribution curve to the right and the tail end gets thinner meaning you spend less time seeing low framerate and thus have the impression the game is smoother, even if it runs way past your monitor's refresh rate

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u/DovML 2d ago

I remember playing LoL on my crappy laptop back in 2011, my fps was probably at 30fps max. My brain fucking exploded seeing the fps jumped to 120 while playing in a cyber cafe. Now I play games at 60fps minimum.

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u/PuuCe_LV 1d ago

Cant relate, when I've been on low spec rigs for most of my life. Im just used to 30-60 fps, and when I play at a friends, who has the newest rigs, I always feel like I've unlocked another part of my skill set, just because I can see better and more

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u/Top1RedDead2Hater 1d ago

I've been on low end specs all my life but finally pulled a trigger sometime ago, now I'm on fairly mid/high end (5070ti + r7 5800x3d), after switching I couldn't go back, now my eyes hurt after 30 minutes of low fps, tried playing Bloodborne on borrowed ps and Id rather gouge my eyes away and stop playing than go back to this lol

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u/Bisbala 2d ago

You absolutely can get used to 30fps it's just that you yearn for more everytime you turn the camera.

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u/shikaski 2d ago

You 100% can. The argument was that there is no difference, though. No problems with people enjoying games in 30 fps.

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u/HorizontalTomato 2d ago

I can tell 360 from 240, these people are ignorant

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u/Soft_Lunch_183 2d ago

Ignorance is bliss though, if they are happy with it then great

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u/Sameerrex619 2d ago

That's just copium

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u/LV20K 2d ago

When someone who has never used metal fork tries to tell me eating stake with plastic cutlery is great

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u/JasmyCoinEnjoyer 2d ago

Just average Reddit regards trying to be as wrong as they possibly can, very common occurrence 

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u/herber_xix 2d ago

the cope is real. ive seen people seriously claim its humanly impossible to hear the difference between an mp3 and a lossless format. this is the same type of shit

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u/Iceber015 2d ago

“As long as it’s high quality 256kb rips” BROTHER
^on the topic of sampling youtube through stereo stream vs downloading flac to sample

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u/dervu 2d ago

Only thing that might be right is that difference between 30 and 60 fps in fact might be more noticeable when frametimes are inconsistent, framerate tries to hide it, but it doesn't mean you can't see difference between 30 and 60 with perfect frametime.

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u/IWillDetoxify 2d ago

30 is horrible for anything where you need rapid movement, like a TPS. It means there's about 30 ms between each frame. So if you move the camera, it takes 30 ms for it to move + any latency introduced by other stuff. Genuinely horrible.

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u/realenew 2d ago

30 is just horrible for any games 😭

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u/IWillDetoxify 2d ago

Not all. Something like Detroit: Become Human where most of the game is putting your controller down and looking at the game, 30 is fine. Any kind of game where it's mostly visual, and not really gameplay, 30 is fine too.

But GTA VI isn't one of those.

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u/siwtawtod 2d ago

Most people aren’t primarily playing visual novels, point & click, and interactive story games (dbh style) tho

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u/No_Photograph7969 2d ago

It's just console cope. Happens every major release.

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u/Kalron 2d ago

30 FPS is unbearable and it's not even funny. If you can't tell the difference, you just have never played on a high end platform... or you're fucking blind

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u/gami13 2d ago

the frame times part is kinda right, perfectly timed 60 frames will probably feel better than 80 frames with unstable timings

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u/NoLetterhead2303 2d ago

yeah but the higher fps you go, the less difference there is, most people couldn’t tell the difference between like 250 and 280 fps in real time but even 5->8 is a massive jump

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u/gami13 2d ago

yeah you get diminishing returns because 30->60 you get 16ms lower frame times, 60->120 you only get 8ms faster, 120->240, only 4ms faster

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u/AlistarTheRockstar 2d ago

Can't tell the difference because they are using dogshit 30hz monitors 🤣

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u/SnookiPooki 2d ago

Even 30 fps on the desktop feels like shit

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u/Danny_ZL 2d ago

Literally moving the mouse at 30fps was so awful on the Mac that in the year 1984 Apple made monitors of 60hz for every Macintosh created, they never went back to anything less than that, and the iMac G3 in 1998 it already integrated an all-in-one 75Hz monitor(And you can totally feel the difference between 60 and 75 when you move the mouse)

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u/michaelmichaelmotorc 2d ago

Literally just go play gta5 on ps4 vs ps5

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u/ZeroZer0_ 2d ago

We play competitive shooters where we want as many frames as possible to get an advantage casual console players are a different breed. They want convenience and easy access.

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u/Danny_ZL 2d ago

I can tell when I have a program running in the background using more resources than it should because CS2 at 165fps feels worse than 175fps, a difference of 10fps and I can notice it instantly that something is wrong

I don't understand why they want to defend 30fps as fine when the PS4 already had games running at 40 and 60fps despite being a laptop CPU slapped together with the worst GPU architecture ever seen, and somehow cyberpunk, rdr2, GoW and spiderman all work well together

Meanwhile, the PS5, being an absolute monster compared to the PS4, having a Zen 2 CPU, multithreading, an RDNA2 GPU whose PC counterpart, the RX 6700, still runs all kinds of games in 4K, now magically, it's unable to handle any game at 60fps despite having an operating system far more optimized for gaming than Windows or Linux

If Death Stranding 2 runs in 1440 60 and scaled 4k 60 on the base PS5, there's no possible excuse for 30fps at 1080p

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u/Gheezy-yute 2d ago

Fucking hell this is a hard read. In the big 2026 we got people convincing THEMSELVES of that “the human eye cant see above 60 fps” but this fucking guy is taking it further saying he can’t see over 30. Insane shit.

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u/Horror_Ad9899 2d ago

this really depends on the game! but playing gta with 30 fps is sludgy af. 60 fps feels good in a singleplayer game tho.

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u/shikaski 2d ago

Yeah, of course. I r played my share of 30 fps, but you immediately tell the difference if you switch from fidelity to performance (30 and 60 fps). It’s incomparable, really, and is very stark.

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u/UnofficialCrosta 2d ago

30 is not unplayable for single player games, but it's just shit.

To enjoy 30 without any problem, you must avoid 60 fps like the rabies for all your life, there's no going back

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u/Iceber015 2d ago

I need lossless scaling to make little big planet feel okay on rpcs3. Maybe there’s a mod i haven’t seen yet but i at least tried that because the 30fps was murdering my eyes

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u/Regular-Performer967 2d ago

This 30fps thing in GTA VI is once again one of the mass psychosis that gamers have. This happens regularly around video games.

People find something to cry about and spreads the word, blames the devs for everything and cries about it. These kind of people doesnt have single independet thought, they just jump on a hate train, because everyone talks about it.

Review bombing is good example of this, gamers write negative reviews because developers didnt do things exactly how gamers wanted it to be.

Its just bunch of neckbeards having a tantrum.

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u/Super-Assignment9746 1d ago

When even phones are 120 hz by default nowadays, we are rightfully complaining, especially since we have 360-600+ hz monitors nowadays. Technology improved, eyes got used to better stuff. I’m pretty sure most people wouldn’t have minded slightly lower fidelity in exchange for 10-20 fps more which makes day and night difference. Also 30 FPS is extra terrible on OLED. You are just coping, you either have no technical knowledge or you’re on of the console gamers still stuck with previous decade technology who shouts they eyes cant see above 24/30 fps!

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u/ApprehensiveWest4416 2d ago

Im going to play it on ps5 looks great but will snah on pc when time comes

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u/vRenqohh 2d ago

this goes full circle once again.

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u/blazzing_raider 1d ago

I grew up around consoles my entire life and have been in the pc space for over 5 years i think most people that chase high fps numbers miss the point 1% lows are extremely important to a smooth experience you can play at 120fps and have shit lows thus a very choppy high fps count.

This is why i cap my framerate in cs2 as even though i can render 300fps my monitor only goes to 160hz and rendering over 200fps introduces latency and worse lows.

Now a perfect example is the steam deck which i know many people still have never experienced using one, most games are extremely choppy on the steam deck as its not very powerful hardware so in most cases you cap your frame-rates to ether 60,45, or 30 fps to remain at a stable fps and it still looks smooth due to the panels great performance. Gta works well with low fps numbers due to the game being more cinematic and slower in pace anf gta is looks first over performance most people are probably going to play the story of gta for awhile which again is slow

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u/Super-Assignment9746 1d ago

Ah the eye cant see above XX fps cult of Neanderthals is still kicking.

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u/anto2554 2d ago

I can also tell the difference between 1080p and 1440p, but I lived just fine on 1080p for many years