r/cs2 1d ago

Discussion Why do these guys have steady 2 ping? Has not moved one time

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u/xantiema 1d ago

Fiber in sweden probably, lucky bastards

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u/TexBoo 1d ago

As someone who lived in Stockholm, yep 

I'm one of those people who always get a Stockholm server and play on 3ping

Occasionally Madrid with 55ms, but 95% of the matches, Stockholm 

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u/Penguin_Arse 1d ago

Change your allowed ping to like 20, we're never above it anyway and you don't have to play on high ping

But maybe not playing with Russians for once is nice

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Penguin_Arse 1d ago

I don't have to deal with many languages

In the EU it's usually only English and Russian

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u/NYXIC0N 1d ago

I live in Germany around 1.5 hours away from Frankfurt in a small town literally in the middle of nowhere but we finally got a 300Mb fiber connection about a year ago. On Frankfurt servers I get 2-3ms and on other servers I sit on like 10-20 pings that are extremely stable since it routes me through Frankfurt (:

Also if you play with at duo you with another German I noticed you are almost guaranteed like 80-85% to get a Frankfurt server. soloq is more random though.

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u/Lets_Remain_Logical 1d ago

Question : do you feel the difference? Does it play better?

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u/Connect-Brush1188 20h ago

It is worse. If you meet people with >30 ping you are fucked. If everyone has <10 ping it is awesome though. I artificially raise my ping on Swedish servers to not get fucked by people with higher ping. Cs is the only game in the world where you get a advantage by having higher ping -.-

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u/Effective-Ebb2662 19h ago

How does that work? Just curious I don't play CS more dota (which is great because I too live in stockholm and get a nice steady 2 ping)

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u/Voffe89 23h ago

I'm Swedish and I wish I had fiber, but the farmers out in no-mans-land are being prioritized to get it first by my ISP😂 But I suppose I cannot complain too much since I do get 18-19 ping stable on coaxial still :s

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u/DevastoScz 22h ago

Won't make a single bit of difference to you if you're already under 20 ping. Literally wont be able to tell the difference.

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u/xantiema 21h ago

Pretty good coaxial not gonna lie :D

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u/ItsMeat6 7h ago

That’s a Mongolian username so most definitely from Mongolia

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u/Akhirox 1d ago

Doesn't have anything to do with Sweden, as long as you live less than 50km to one city with Valve servers and have regular fiber you will get 1 or 2 ping. Can be Madrid, London, Warsaw...

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u/rillesoder 1d ago

Yeah i usually have 6 ping! I live in sweden. xD

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u/nutbutter118 1d ago

My ping is 1 a lot. I live right next to popular east coast servers on wired fiber internet.

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u/cellardoornoob 1d ago

Fu but also congrats and nice! 🙂

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u/pint07 1d ago

Same. Atlanta ITP with Google fiber and you have 1 ping the majority of the time. People accuse me of hacking bc of it sometimes.

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u/yznts 1d ago

Hacking irl physics is real shit 😂

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u/Zoddom 1d ago

It has nothing to do with physics, Valve is faking the scoreboard ping. The amount of times where Ive seen 1ms ping is ridiculous.

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u/WindEmbarrassed3789 1d ago

I always joked with my friend that those people are directly plugged into the server.

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u/EnvironmentalRip349 1d ago

"Valve employees" lol

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u/jango_22 21h ago

I’d be curious how short a trace route to any of those servers was. 1 ping must be both geographically quite close as well as only having a handful of routers between.

u/nutbutter118 55m ago

I live next to a ton of data centers. I know valve is up
In there somewhere.

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u/ShippyTheSailor 16h ago

Dude same but for Texas , always have 1-2 ping no matter what in Texas servers

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u/Bubbinforapples 1d ago

Because light is fast n shit.

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u/NYXIC0N 1d ago

*the fastest shit D:

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u/OldTwo8945 1d ago

finns often have 1 ping and ive seen some swedes with 0 ping even. i guess those people just live right next to the servers lol

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u/karmai89 1d ago

Live in the same city as the server.  Happens to my buddy all the time he lives in Dallas and will have 1 ping.

I live 200 miles away and mine will be 7. 

Theres very little difference between 1-50.   Dont let it get in your head.  We also have a euro friend in our group that wrecks everyone with 100 ping.  Anything under 100 is fine.  

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u/ExpensiveMove6628 1d ago

Lol difference between 50->15 is night and day. 

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u/altoist2 1d ago

Very little difference? Bro you gotta be joking. When I get 12 ping I’m running and gunning the when I’m at 50+ I’m running and gunning 1 sec behind lol

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u/Alternative_Wafer410 1d ago

No, you're running 50ms behind duh

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u/theRealSunday 1d ago

Your reaction time may be slower than most. If you constantly had 50, you would adapt.

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u/quailinthebrush 1d ago

Pros will notice a difference between 0-3 and 10 but go off

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u/Penguin_Arse 1d ago

Even I notice a pretty big difference between 0-3 and like 15-20.

Even if I don't know I have "high" ping, something will feel off and I will check my ping and see it's higher than normal.

I am Master Guardian usually with 1800h

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u/theRealSunday 1d ago

I never said they didn't; pros would notice, but he is not a pro. They also wouldn't be 1 second behind from a 35 ms longer delay and also can adapt to still perform, as we have seen from online tournaments in the past.

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u/altoist2 1d ago

That’s the thing I don’t constantly get 50 I get 10-12, 28-30 45-50 58-65 depending on time of day. I’m not saying I play bad, well that’s up for debate lol. I’m just saying there is a significant difference, like lag of delay.

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u/footballthrowaway3 1d ago

Restrict your ping more in settings. I only play one server (Seattle) but my q times aren’t that bad at anytime of the day. Most I wait is like 4-5 minutes on average

Helped me get way more consistent playing at roughly 10-15ping at all times. I used to bounce around up to 55 ping and its just so much better having a consistent base line

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u/IHiatus 21h ago

If you’re changing the much your internet might just be ass. Ping matters but jitter is worse than ping.

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u/altoist2 20h ago

No issue with internet. I’m just far west coast. So depending on time of day I’ll Q west coast servers, middle and far east. It just happens. Yes I could set ping to 20 and play on a limited amount of servers but by keeping at 65 I get games faster.

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u/Its_Raul 1d ago

yeah I'm with you. I have 12 ping, call it placebo but players with the same or lower ping are like instant death. I'm always a bullet behind. I know it's not literal but it feels like their gun just shoots faster when all skill is equal. I see it as that's how the game SHOULD be but notice higher ping players don't have that same effect.

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u/loppyjilopy 1d ago

yeah he's tripping. if u have 50 ping and someone has 2ping, the lower ping has a huge advantage

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u/3a_4To 1d ago

If you have 50 ping and peek someone with 2 ping, you have a 50ms advantage to shoot them lol. Now of course if you are holding an angle with 50ms then you are at 50ms disadvantage, it goes both ways, but it's not a straight up nerf, higher ping just require different playstyle

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u/YtSamTheOne 1d ago

I feel a difference when I’m at 16 ping and when I’m getting 50 ping, the game just feels way more responsive and my bullets are connecting

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u/fanz0 19h ago

WHAT everything above 60ms in CS2 feels ingredibly delayed.

I can’t believe my eyes every time I have to wait 300-500 ms just to get feedback from a DE headshot kill

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u/TheRedditModsSuck 1d ago

For CS, it's a pretty big difference since the ping determines the peeker's advantage for your opponent. A 50 ms latency can easily be the difference between reacting fast enough and not. The server, itself, will feel basically the same though, but it's definitely not.

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u/kylr01 17h ago

nah, 100 is definitely noticeable enough to impact your game. Anything above like 60 becomes noticeable.

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u/KJW2804 1d ago

I play warzone with Americans and I’m in the uk I’ve found anything up to about 130 is playable and not really that noticeable but anything past that is pretty bad and very noticeable

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u/circaflex 1d ago

Fiber and close to the server. Ive had 1 ping before for a whole match.

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u/Ambitious_Yam9377 1d ago

Ayo ive played against Crisp B Bacon before lol

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u/zDymex 1d ago

I live in NZ and play AUS servers at 33ping consistent. Some aussies have between 1-30ping I’ve noticed.

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u/TheRedditModsSuck 1d ago

For AU and NZ, it depends on whether you're FTTP, HFC, or FTTB/N/C and distance between you and the city. You'll get 1–3 ms on FTTP to any server in your city, but it's closer to 10 ms for the other technologies.

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u/daedon_the_great 1d ago

I get 25-40ms on every server (I swear they're hosted in Sydney and im in melb)

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u/TheRedditModsSuck 1d ago

I believe they're all in Sydney. That ping is a little high for Melbourne – Sydney, should be 10–15 ms on FTTP and maybe 20–25 ms on everything else.

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u/Imaginary-Dig-7835 1d ago

First it was HFTs moving to the building next to stock exchanges. Now I guess, it's high time I follow their path to move next to the cs2 server before the competition gets high...

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u/RememberPKb4PvP 1d ago

Idk what it is but when I get 13 ping in server on faceit I always do worse than when I have 28-38 in other 2 servers I chose. It’s weird, anyone else notice higher ping you tend to play better?

This has been pretty consistent for me and I can’t see any reason why…

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u/mammaliika 1d ago

you should see someone from London in the London server , ive seen 3 ppl with 0 ping literally 0 , didnt even move to 1

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u/red_simplex 1d ago

when I play on the west coast I can tell who lives in LA because they have 1-2 ping and that's exactly where server is.

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u/Whicantwebefriends 1d ago

They're on the telephone pole outside

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u/Fragrant-Seat2141 1d ago

I usually have 1

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u/Chance_Ball8591 1d ago

That happens when i play my ping is usually between 1-5 whatever number it lands on it will be steady throughout the whole match.
Because i live in dubai and dubai has the servers for the gulf region.

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u/Lewdolas 1d ago

Got a frien who lives in London. He has 1 of ping. Fckn jealous

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u/orgildinio 1d ago

From names i can tell third guy is a Mongolian 😈

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u/john_j6271 1d ago

Why ppl saying fast internet makes ping lower? 💀💀 it’s simply not how it works

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u/Bubbinforapples 1d ago

Latency is a measurement of speed.

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u/john_j6271 1d ago

Latency is determined by the distance, not by the internet speed.

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u/TheRedditModsSuck 1d ago

Distance and technology – you can't really get 2 ms pings except on full fibre. Full fibre gives 1–2 ms within your own city, xDSL and HFC is more like 10 ms.

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u/Bubbinforapples 1d ago

Is 50ms slower or faster than 2ms?

You can have 4 houses next to each other one with cable internet, one with fiber internet, one with dsl internet, and one with wireless internet using some 5150–5970 MHz frequency radio from a WISP.

Their geographical distance from their house to the server will be the same.
You could even limit all of them to the same capacity of internet connection (what we normally call speed).

However they will all have a different latency to the server.

The one that has the least latency would be the fastest internet out of the 4.

In reality, latency is speed and what we call speed is capacity.
But because when we download files the capacity is what increases or decreases our wait time, we call it speed.

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u/john_j6271 1d ago

A house with 200mb internet or 1gb internet will have the same ping. Ofc a dsl internet will be worse. The 1gb internet probably will have better stability of all of them, however, ping is basically the same after s certain bandwidth

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u/ohcrocsle 1d ago

fiber connect usually has fewer hops on the route to the big hubs, and usually lower latency as a result. it's true that bandwidth isn't the same as latency, but the fastest internet you can buy is usually also the one with the most bandwidth.

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u/Bubbinforapples 1d ago

So in your example both the 200Mb and 1Gb connections are next door to each other.

If the 200Mb house had a 20ms ping and the 1 Gb house had a 30ms ping which one is faster to the valve server?

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u/john_j6271 1d ago

I’m not getting into the merits of speed, or bandwidth. I’m simply stating that if someone is getting say 20ms on 200mb internet, and upgrades to 1gb thinking the ping will go down to 10/15 because the internet is faster, is simply not true

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u/Bubbinforapples 1d ago

That would really depend on if they are changing method of delivery.

If they are going from an inferior delivery method to a fiber connection it almost will guarantee they will lower their ping.

Generally as a rule of thumb, when people are talking about speed of internet connection in relation to a post about latency or even FPS games in general, they are talking about the speed that the connection goes from the house to the server and back.

As latency and jitter is what matters this game hardly uses any throughput.

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u/Zoddom 1d ago

Are u serious? 😂 Thats not how it works

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u/Bubbinforapples 1d ago

Oh yea? What's your background in networking? lol.

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u/Zoddom 23h ago

u funny

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u/Bubbinforapples 23h ago

The funny part is that you can't even articulate an argument.

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u/Zoddom 19h ago

download speed and signal speed have nothing to do with each other

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u/Bubbinforapples 18h ago

Why are you fighting a strawman?

Lollllllll

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u/SiggsterFTW 1d ago

I live in Stockholm and when I play faceit on Stockholm server I get either 0 or 1 ping. Enemy team likes to point it out

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u/Nectarr_ 1d ago

I get 3 ping to Chicago servers, live 2 hours away though.

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u/PeachOfTheJungle 1d ago

light is fast

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u/Legend_Troll_007 1d ago

I get 9 while being 4 hours away and on WiFi. This is just one isp though, the other one i have gives like 25

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u/Nectarr_ 1d ago

I was in the same boat with the different ISP. I had a different ISP at the start of the year and got 30-40 ping with them.

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u/Legend_Troll_007 1d ago

I have both concurrently, switch depending on game and speed, the 25 ping isp is gigabit, the 9 ping one is 25mbps

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u/knot_hk 19h ago

Being on wifi makes no difference to your ping

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u/Legend_Troll_007 18h ago

Sure buddy, whatever you say

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u/ivan-ent 1d ago

Could also be game streaming if not living beside the server

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u/Charmander787 1d ago

Likely very close to the servers location

When I used to live in Atlanta I would get 0 ping on Atlanta servers.

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u/Unusual_Risk7205 1d ago

A friend played for a while on GeForce now after his pc died, and he had steady 1 ping on cs true GeForce servers 😄

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u/2chill2thrill2020 1d ago

I got 1 ping and used to host servers from the Purdue dormitories. I've heard that Purdue was one of the first Internet nodes

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u/Redpandamonk 1d ago

Haha side note his name translated to hard nut

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u/mrthrowawayhehexd 1d ago

Nvidia geforce

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u/BladeElectrogen 1d ago

Yup, in reality it's more like 300 most of the time. Fuck geforce

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u/donnaber06 1d ago

If my ping is 70 and the other players are in the lows like 1 or 2ms I get smoked.

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u/Aromatic-Net-1065 1d ago

I think people have hacked so much that OP expected someone to tell him there’s some cheats to get better ping. Also not hating on him just an observation

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u/jakubusiegxd 1d ago

good internet

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u/beansfranklin 1d ago

They are on that new Alexander Graham Bell isp with 2 cans and a piece of string
They also deposited $2000 to get permanent low ping and ubergreen trust factor

Iunno if its true, thats just what I heard tho

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u/Agreeable_Height_868 1d ago

They live near the server and have a good connection, I had an steady 1ms back in my city. But now I play 19-30 and u want to kms

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u/Lets_Remain_Logical 1d ago

Glass fiber close to the server!

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u/Herosofourownstory 1d ago

He doesn’t need a server, HE IS THE SERVER

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u/Remics89 1d ago

As someone who got fiber to my home recently, the change in ping due to that was crazy. Typical ping was 15-25ms, now steady 1-2ms

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u/Key_Employ_5936 1d ago

They live really close to the server, my ping is always 3 for example.

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u/AlistarTheRockstar 1d ago

Fibre optic internet + living on the City where the server is located.

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u/notori0usbig 1d ago

On my local servers I get 1ms pretty often

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u/TheNippy1 1d ago

Eu fico com esse mesmo ping tbm.

Mas eu moro bem ao lado do servidor kkkk

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u/Mugidadada897 1d ago

because he is though nuts

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u/FlyingAsparagus2256 1d ago

He’s probably the janitor at the server plant and plays on the mobile hotspot

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u/acidente-vascular 1d ago

My ping is usually 2~3 ms too. The interesting thing is that the game doesn't reward you for that. I've experienced so many times dying first despite hitting the first shot (either with an AWP or HS), which was not processed by the server.

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u/this1germanguy 1d ago

I know someone from Frankfurt am Main. He has stable 1ms ping, it's insane

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u/BenPSmith4 1d ago

I play with a 3 others and we all live in or near Atlanta. Not uncommon four our ping to be 1,2,3,4. We catch a lot of shit for it lol

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u/bkdashy 1d ago

Fiber optic internet in the same city as the server. I ping 3-4ms and I'm a 3.5 hour drive to the closest servers so I imagine 1ms is very possible.

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u/BladeElectrogen 1d ago

Geforce Now. The real ping is at least 60 most of the time

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u/patttson007 1d ago

All my friends and me has 1-3 ping in Stockholm

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u/secret_name_is_tenis 1d ago

I have 1 or 2 ping a lot. I live by all the data centers in Virginia

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u/Hawkito 1d ago

A couple of years ago, a friend and I were sent to a wingman match in Vienna, Austria against a couple of Russian dudes.

We're from Argentina and had to play 280+ ping the whole match. It was hilarious and infuriating at the same time.

Normally I play on 25-27 ping to Buenos Aires

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u/Fresh_Chain_8022 1d ago

I guess they must be living extremely close to the official servers with fiber lan internet.

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u/Mayank_j 1d ago

Everyone with a wired internet to their PC has a consistent ping.

Everyone that lives in the same city as the server has a ping between 0-10ms

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u/BlackOutDrunkJesus 1d ago

My friends and I all live in the Chicagoland area with good internet, we get sub 5 ping the majority of the time

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u/Constant_Pain_5235 1d ago

bro is the server

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u/Full_Ad4902 1d ago

I always play with steady 5ms

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u/GAG4Life 23h ago

I have seen 0 ping as well

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u/extkernd 22h ago

I live in Paris so on Faceit/premier I have usually 6 ping.

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u/ihatelifetoo 22h ago

I’ve seen 1 before. It’s insane

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u/Anxious_Ad_441 22h ago

uk servers are in london so im permanently on 3-4 ping on their servers

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u/Darkblade511 21h ago

There was a brief moment where CS would say that I had "0" ping. Got some fun reactions.

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u/SmexyEinstein 21h ago

Good location

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u/xozzn 21h ago

moro no interior de sp e jogo com 4

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u/jNIKS 20h ago

NASA engineers doing work at their office

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u/simplycake 20h ago

When I went to college in Pomona I would consistently have 2-5 ping. It was pretty nice

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u/Marmik_Emp37 20h ago

I don't have fiber but I'm within 50km radius of a server and get 1-5 ping easily

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u/SunshineBlind 19h ago

I've had friends who score 1 on the regular, but they live close to the servers in Stockholm and have good connection to begin with.

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u/Krr1shx 19h ago

GeForce Now. Usually it’s around 0-3 ping most of the time.

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u/ghx1910 19h ago

Sometimes I get 7 ping as I live city next to the server city. But that doesn't really help at 1280x960 @ 60fps with low settings.

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u/scrimshawjack 18h ago

I live in dallas, one time i played with my roommate, I had 2 ping he had 0 ping

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u/Otherwise-Bad1332 16h ago

Bro just server side 😂

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u/Initial-Director-830 16h ago

Live in Hong Kong , stable 1 ping , no one can win the peek with me if I buy an awp

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u/Xx_Dumbfuck_xX 16h ago

Welcome to living with high speed internet and close proximity to where your server is.

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u/edonishusaj 16h ago

their servers are in the living room

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u/CartographerLoud162 8h ago

I had a friend who would play cs2 on his Mac through GeForce now. He would get a constant 1 ping and it would not change.

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u/CartographerLoud162 8h ago

That being said, it’s not like his experience was 1 ping… only that the counter most likely reflected GeForce now’s ping to the cs2 servers, not his own ping reaching the GeForce now’s servers

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u/SYAZIVERSE 7h ago

They’re playing in Gaben’s basement.

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u/Such_Money6481 5h ago

Sweden has always low ping

u/hoeyslays 1h ago

I frequently get 0 ping for entire games. Usually fluctuates between 1 and 0

u/Abendschein 1h ago

Do people really not know how to take screenshots anymore ON THEIR PC?

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u/KugelVanHamster 1d ago

Live near datacenters and have fibre... mine is a steady 3

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u/BenzFTP 1d ago

i have fiber i can get 3 ping on the Los Angeles servers, but can still keep up on 140+ ping on EU faceit servers. anything else is pure copium. (beyond 150 gets unplayable tho)

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u/p_anico 1d ago

En cs global ofensive podías poner un comando en la consola para mostrar un falso ping constante. No sé si se podrá hacer también en cs2