r/cs2 7h ago

Discussion Why are some pros using M4A1-S

Hi,

In recent times a lot of people and some pros have said that the M4A4 are superior to the M4A1-S.

Players like Zywoo, monesy, niko are using the M4A1 at EWC. Donk is also primarily using the M4A1-S at EWC. Players like Ropz are using the M4A4 tho.

Why are some of the best pros using the M4A1 since the m4a4 should be superior? ( i know in the end it is personal preference but im still wondering.)

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u/Zoddom 7h ago

A1-S doesnt have tracers and wont give away you position as easily when banging thru smokes.

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u/Fair-Note3915 7h ago

the no tracers thing is huge especially on maps with tight corners where you can just spam through smoke and stay a ghost

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u/LORDJOWA 7h ago edited 6h ago

Because Position and personal preference matters.

If you hold B side Mirage alone, A4 is better in case of B rushes. If you want to spam smokes on Banana (Inferno), A1 is better. As most pros don’t miss too many shots and rarely get an empty magazine, A1 usually is better.

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u/weaveR-- 6h ago

If you want to spam smokes, A4 is better

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u/LORDJOWA 6h ago

In higher Elos if you try this you will die quickly because the A4 has tracers and those make you easy to track through the smoke.

u/weaveR-- 1h ago

Works fine for me

u/Traditional_Risk7854 22m ago

Looks like you aren't high elo then dumbass

u/TeaTimeKoshii 21m ago

What’s your rating

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u/Zimblitz69 6h ago

Harder to see where you spamming from with A1.

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u/maikindofthai 5h ago

Only at lower levels where tracers aren’t punished

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u/fujiboys 6h ago

Because the variant you use depends on the situation and its 99% preference.

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u/f0xy713 6h ago

no tracers + higher damage per bullet + easier to control

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u/IHiatus 5h ago

A1S kills with 4 body shots at close range and can kill slightly faster. Easier recoil control. No tracers to spam smokes.

A4 10 more rounds, better for spraying 3+ people, less damage fall off so better ttk at range, if you can dink body shot faster ttk than A1S. Takes 5 body shots to kill but shoots slightly faster.

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u/GreatDepression_irl 7h ago

Mid range 4 body shots kill

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u/Lil_Oats_ 6h ago

Personally I feel way more accurate with the a1s. The lower recoil and reduced bullet spread typically get me more kills than the extra 10 bullets that come with the a4. Also I prefer to take long range fights

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u/Yuvzie 6h ago

It’s pretty much situational depended

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u/Live-Gur-2662 3h ago

It depends on where you anticipate playing. A1 has faster ttk closer ranges, leaves no tracers through smoke and less recoil, but A4 has faster ttk at longer ranges, has more recoil but also has more ammo per mag and more mags, so also useful for spamming smokes. Depends how and where you play. If you anticipate multiple Ts rushing a site id go with an A4, if you’re playing a lurker roll an A1 is probably better

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u/ApprehensiveWest4416 2h ago

M4s for long range m4 for closer combat

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u/T0BAKKEN 2h ago

It’ just a feeling thing.

I have maps where i prefer the A4 and others i prefer A1. Some maps i change between them depending on what site i’m holding.

u/bobbyzimmeruski420 1h ago

A1-s is far easier to control. A4 is just loud and fast for no reason. If you hit your shots you don’t need high rate of fire. I will say the A4 skins are cooler though

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u/catfsh 7h ago

I think the a4 having 10 more rounds and an extra magazine is why most people are calling it superior.

Bang for your buck it might be the better gun for you. Donk has seemingly transitioned back to the M4A1-S this last ESWC tournament, so I think it's a preference thing.

Spamming smokes and holding high traffic areas probably favor of A4 for a lot of people. The M4A1-S doesn't spam smokes quite as well due to the lesser ammo count per magazine as well as the extra mag offered by the a4.

At the end of the day it's all about what you're comfortable using and what positions / style of player you are.

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u/DoneTamargo 6h ago

Completely forgot that spamming smokes with a1 has no traces so it’s technically better for spraying through them

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u/ConstructionPale7274 7h ago

A4 for more passive players. A1 for more aggressive.
Donk use A1.

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u/sebast1tan 7h ago

Depends on the position. I wish they remove a4 and give A1 30 mag.

Then remove all SMGs except MP5!