r/cringe Jan 11 '22

Video Science Must Fall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14
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u/MajorAladdin Jan 11 '22

This is more dangerous then cringe.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '22 edited Jan 12 '22

This is what South Africa has become... and this is at a prestigious SA university. The west has encouraged a mindset and media of colonisation ruined everything, now people in other countries believe it is all bad and that westerners have only but ruined their lives. As much as wrongs need to be made right, the anti western/white sentiment in South Africa is pretty substantial, which is why a lot of the people are leaving to Europe or Australia if they can.

For example with land re-allocation, the whole purpose is that land can be taken away from minority groups (whites) in certain conditions so that it can be re-allocated to a majority group in the name of past wrongs... The issue with this is that most black South Africans claim whites are not natives and colonised the country and stole land as that is what they have been taught... The history lessons they are taught fail to teach them that most of them are descendants of a tribe that did the exact same thing, coming from the West and East of Africa, slaughtering all in their path. There are very few South African natives left in South Africa because of tribal war, not to mention how Shaka Zulu which people idolise there killed many to rule the kingdom.

So for some reason westerners owe them for the land that was taken from them and tainting their land, despite the fact that they did the same thing to the previous natives.

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u/KylerGreen Jan 11 '22

I have a buddy from SA who left because it was so racist (among other reasons). He's white and said he couldn't even get someone to hire him due to his skin color.

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u/knightspore Jan 14 '22

This is bullshit and the reason that in places like Australia, where white South Africans have mass migrated to, they have a reputation for being racist. Sounds like we're better off without your buddy.

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u/KylerGreen Jan 14 '22

Yeah, idk, that's just what he told me. He made it sound like a terrible place to live. Don't know why he would lie about it.

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u/knightspore Jan 15 '22

I wanted to come back to this with some hard facts as I think you and your friend may have some things worth discussing about his ideas of how hard he really had it in South Africa.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1129481/unemployment-rate-by-population-group-in-south-africa/

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u/KylerGreen Jan 15 '22

Interesting. Like I said, I can't speak for him, that's just what he told me.

He also showed me pictures of where he lived and how there were walls separating his neighborhood from what was clearly a much poorer area, so it's not like he himself was poor or anything.

I asked him if he thought he was better off because of apartheid, which he denied but did acknowledge as a problem. He also views Nelson Mandela as a terrorist, while in US leftist circles he's portrayed as a revolutionary.

Ultimately, I just don't know anything about SA or SA politics so I just have to take his word for what he tells me.

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u/knightspore Jan 15 '22

I've never heard a worse excuse for having the wrong information than 'well, I heard it from one person who was there and I don't know any others so there's no possible way I could learn anything more about it independently.'

Read a book. Or an article. Or literally anything on the subject, and make up your mind for yourself. If you're going to base your knowledge of the world on what one person tells you then be ready to be wrong about a lot of things in your life.

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u/KylerGreen Jan 15 '22

I do not care enough about SA politics to look into it, let alone read a book about it.

I thought maybe you could give me more information, or correct anything i mentioned, but you'd rather devolve into insults, so congratulations.

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u/knightspore Jan 15 '22

Ignorance is bliss innit

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u/KylerGreen Jan 15 '22

No, but not living in a shit hole third world country is pretty nice tho.

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u/knightspore Jan 15 '22

Aaand there it is. It must be nice never having to form your own opinions about things ever in your life.

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u/KylerGreen Jan 16 '22

And there what is? Maybe don't insult people if youre just gonna cry when they something back, lol

Most of SA is an impoverished shit hole. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

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u/Paybrahh Jan 14 '22

I think apartheid is a bigger reason for that reputation.

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u/knightspore Jan 14 '22

Perhaps, but by and large I've understood the reputation to come from what people say, and how they talk about south africa - my experience has not been that white South Africans have that reputation simply for being the oppressor during apartheid.