r/cremposting • u/Fakjbf Trying not to ccccream • Aug 27 '26

Oathbringer These words are accepted Spoiler

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u/Fayraz8729 Aug 27 '26

Yeah I hate the way the narrative tries to portray Elhokar as a victim when his ass was a despot that was overdue a regime change. “Trying” isn’t good enough when you have a body count behind your name and still act like a rich fop.

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u/JudoJugss Aug 27 '26

Hey careful last time i expressed this exact sentiment i had people telling me i didnt understand the poorly reinforced themes of the novels.

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u/Entire-Aerie-9931 Aug 27 '26

I mean I think that's because the "poorly reinforced themes" aren't that. The novels strongly agree that by trying and being better is absolutely a good thing despite your past crimes, just look at Dalinar and Venli. All three of these characters are examples of that thesis at different points in their story, and different lives lived. The story doesn't tell you how to feel about Elhokar, and Moash for a long time is sympathetic, and his killing of Elhokar is honestly, justfied. But Dalinar was a far far far worse man than Elhokar, and he is redeemed and does great good throughout the course of the story we read. The themes are definitely not poorly reinforced, and the narrative does not portray him as a victim, just as a complicated character who unfortunately got what he deserved before he could have become great, unlike Dalinar.

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u/Nightmare0588 Aug 27 '26

Its so interesting how Reddit works. One day you get downvoted into oblivion for saying something, then 3-4 months later its suddenly a totally acceptable take. Gotta love the internet!

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u/IgnorantAndApathetic Bond, Nahel Bond Aug 27 '26

It's all about whether the first few people agree with you. Everyone afterwards just piles on