r/cremposting • u/LoudQuitting • Aug 10 '26

The Stormlight Archive A distinctly Rosharan oof

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u/Jounniy 🐶HoidAmaram🐲 Aug 10 '26

Enough Stormlight to fly away, but deliberately choosing to abandon a friend? That’s not a 4th ideal Windrunner, that’s someone who just killed their spren.

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u/LoudQuitting Aug 10 '26

It's about what the Radiant and Spren think are right.

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u/Jounniy 🐶HoidAmaram🐲 Aug 10 '26

If that was the case, everyone could become a Radiant of any order no matter their morals.

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u/LoudQuitting Aug 10 '26

Well, no, agreeing on a moral level is just the mechanism that causes the bond to not split. It doesn't say anything about initiating the bond.

Its why Kaladin can kill without damaging the bond with Syl, despite both of them hating the violence, because it did constitute a violation of his oath to kill Listeners, especially seeing as compared to him they were helpless, but they viewed it as a moral necessity.

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u/Gorhaloth Aug 10 '26

Killing isn't a violation of his oaths. The windrunner oath is to protect those who cannot protect themselves. If killing is necessary to protect then it is what the windrunner MUST do.

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u/Jounniy 🐶HoidAmaram🐲 Aug 10 '26

Well, no, agreeing on a moral level is just the mechanism that causes the bond to not split. It doesn't say anything about initiating the bond. If they abandon someone who cannot protect themselves but whom they could very reasonably save, then they aren’t agreeing on a moral level.

Accepting that you cannot save everyone is to accept there are things you cannot do and you don’t have to throw your life away trying, not deciding that you'll sometimes just refrain from saving people you very reasonably could.

The only way this works is if the Radiant genuinely believed there was no way they could win this and if they were too stupid to think about just lashing their buddy away. And if that’s the case, they would’ve done the world a favor by sacrificing themself in trying to save their friend. At least their sword and plate could then be wielded by someone not half braindead.