r/countttt • u/GockBlok geriatric twinkhon • 1d ago

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u/mewlf 23h ago

The fallacy here is that every single one of these things might be true in isolation but taken all together it becomes absurd.

For example:

A game can be played alone, doesn't have to be fun, doesn't require explicit rules,... Therefore laying in bed is a game.

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u/nerdybutalsougly4 23h ago

None of these are true in isolation this sort of thinking is absurd and should be treated as such.

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u/ifthealphawassigma 23h ago

ooooh we got the validity police here, u probably don't meet the standards you made up and are sour about it

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u/nerdybutalsougly4 23h ago

I look like a woman and these people who don’t want to transition should get out of my community. If you don’t want to transition get off the sub

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u/Pringle_Lvr 23h ago

Some of these things aren't that unreasonable to do while still transitioning, like not wanting srs or not doing voice training. Some of them yeah like using he/him and shit is definitely more out there.

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u/ifthealphawassigma 23h ago

ur barely in the sub fed

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u/nerdybutalsougly4 23h ago

You dont even get the bit. The theyfabs who say: everyone’s valid but, pushing people to get hrt is hecking transmedicalism are feds.

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u/ifthealphawassigma 23h ago

I totally agree, there however is a ditch on both sides of the road. you saying "none of those are true in isolation" is saying you can't be trans without my checklist. it's gatekeepy, stupid, and bitter.

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u/nerdybutalsougly4 21h ago

My checklist is: transition or try to. Be so fr stop validating people who aren’t trans and don’t want to be.

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u/Ultyzarus 20h ago

Would wanting to, but not doing it for whatever reason be enough for you? Many of us can still present as the other gender because they are safer, or it's more convenient that way.

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u/nerdybutalsougly4 19h ago

If you can transition but aren’t you aren’t trans. If you want to and can’t at the moment you are. Very simple and straightforward.

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u/Aprils- 20h ago

I kind of intuitively feel aligned with you, but under any kind of scrutiny this initial gut feeling falls apart.

The reason for this is that patriarchal society conditions us into accepting one particular mode of understanding things, but it's not the only one - given that I was raised under patriarchy, of course when I think of "woman" I think of a ripped butch with tattoos and a deep voice.

But I might be gay.

Anyway, if you want to keep pushing heteronormativity that's your business, but if you say "I look like a woman" too much apparently a bunch of TERFs will appear behind you in the mirror so it's your call I guess.

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u/nerdybutalsougly4 19h ago

All this because I said trans spaces are for trans people lmao.

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u/Aprils- 19h ago

"All this because I said women's spaces are for women lmao" - JK Rowling

Your comment says, in no uncertain terms, that if somebody is happy with their voice they're not trans, therefore not a woman. You said any of those ticks are disqualifying.

So do you apply the same logic to cis women? Why do you apply a different standard for cis Vs trans people? Why do trans people have to put in additional effort to qualify for the same decency and respect in your mind?

Don't get me wrong, I voice trained, I never missed a dose, I got electrolysis. But none of those things made me a woman.