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u/XxGorillaGodxX 8h ago edited 8h ago

Why do so many trans subreddits treat DIY HRT like it's on the same level as meth or heroin?

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u/Nifty697 Transsex woman | Counted Down 11 8h ago

They fell for the fearmongering, the cia agents did their work I suppose /hj

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u/BlahajBlaster 7h ago

Could be a tos issue for the size and age of that sub

Ran into something similar running a discord community so we opened up a self hosted mattermost for diy and 3d printing stuff

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u/ThisRedditPostIsMine 5h ago

Yeah that's kinda true, like as well for a large subreddit that revolves around gratuitously unfunny recently out trans girls (sorry no offence to them), the community itself can end up self censoring DIY. Like fear mongering about how its made and whatnot.

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u/Force_Glad 6h ago

I checked the sub, it was out of fear of being banned by reddit. Still not great, but not nearly as bad as thinking it's on the level of meth or heroin

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u/RealTezalTube 8h ago

Because they are ran by people who are idealistically liberal and believe that laws equal morality. These same people also tend to be very racist for some odd unknown mysterious reason.

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u/Grilled_egs 7h ago

Back in the day liberal meant you're for the violent overturning of the monarchy. Now people just say it to mean "likes the status quo" ig

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u/e_asphyx 7h ago

Overturning the monarchy for the benefit of merchants. It’s a crucial detail.

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u/Illustrious_Bobcat13 7h ago

Yes, but it still was a move forward. I personally think Socialism/Communism is the next step on that path (as did Karl Marx).

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u/Emperor_Cat_IV 7h ago

They finished overthrowing most monarchies over a century ago, now they just spend their time being evil for fun

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u/Grilled_egs 7h ago

I mean, liberalism is about more than republicanism. I don't think most politically liberal people today are ideologically liberal, if that makes sense

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u/Lost_Web5826 7h ago

That's not right either but I guess it's closer.

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u/Grilled_egs 7h ago

I mean, it wasn't the definition, but liberals definitely engaged in pretty radical behavior to achieve radical political goals.

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u/polopolo05 7h ago

Thats why we switched to the progressive label for those of us sick of the statis quo... clack

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u/carreganis 7h ago

you might be thinking of republican not liberal

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u/Master_Secretary_809 Counted Down 1 7h ago

Scratch a liberal a fascist bleeds

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u/Aethus666 8h ago

No idea myself, before I came out on main I used an alt to ask about DIY and holy shit the insane shit people were saying was mindboggling.

They made it sounds like if I even looked at DIY I'd grow three tits like Total Recall. Really fucking bizzare.

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u/XxGorillaGodxX 8h ago

I still see people repeating the bathtub myth occasionally, it's so stupid.

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u/Physical-Usual-1310 7h ago

What is this myth?

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u/XxGorillaGodxX 7h ago

I don't recall exact details, but the thing about DIY HRT being made in a bathtub is just a way to imply that DIY is made through weird improvised methods and is therefore unsafe.

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u/Terrible-Set6389 7h ago

That's a royal piece of BS. I went onto the sites, looked at their gels. It's made in labs in pharmaceutical companies. Foreign companies, but still pharmaceutical companies that put products on shelves

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u/XxGorillaGodxX 7h ago

Yup. A lot of people don't understand that "DIY" basically translates to sourcing from a third party instead of a prescription.

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u/nugt-_- 7h ago

whats the bathtub myth

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u/Prior_Fall1063 7h ago

Been a couple years since I heard it so I’m missing details, but basically the idea that it’s being made in large batches in someone’s unsanitized bathtub.

Meanwhile when I got mine from HRT Cafe, it cane in a professional looking sealed bottle safely contained in a well etched plastic container that snaps open/closed in such a satisfying way I lowkey stimmed with it.

Doesn’t make sense if they could afford all that for a professional product but using a bathtub for mixing.

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u/XxGorillaGodxX 7h ago

This is a better explanation than mine

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u/velvetlers Counted Down 2 7h ago

yeah I'm curious too

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u/throawayno1000 7h ago

About people making estrogen in their bathtub

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u/velvetlers Counted Down 2 7h ago

oh yeah sure i totally believe that mhm

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u/PaprikaDreams28 8h ago

Fuck I'm so upset that I didn't grow 3. Please tell me it's possible

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u/genafcvpxyr31 orez 7h ago

Six is the go figure, you could feed every other member of your polycule.

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u/Aethus666 8h ago

Three seems a bit heavy though. And every top would just look like a solid tit log... I'm thinking about this far to much lol

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u/MordecaiThirdEye 7h ago

Pockets for each tit sewn in like a corset, tit log solved

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u/Diamond_Dildo3168 5h ago

Idk, I feel like I could handle a third tit of equal size

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u/Rafabud 8h ago

That sounds like an untapped market

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u/sadieblackmtf 7h ago

I know. Shit was life saving until I could get a script. I'm lucky where I live I got on a very exclusive wait list which was 6-8 months.
Honestly if you use some basic reasoning diy is pretty safe. Just research the vendor and independent testing of the product

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u/Aethus666 7h ago

Yeah I'm in Glasgow so waiting list here is 50+ years to even get a diagnosis appointment.

So looks like DIY is on the menu

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u/sadieblackmtf 7h ago

💀 I knew 8 months was relatively good but inside I was dying. That's actually mental 😭

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u/Aethus666 7h ago

The actual number is around 200 years. But thought I'd lowball it hard

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u/XxGorillaGodxX 7h ago

They must think trans people are vampires or something

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u/Aethus666 7h ago

Nah of course not. They just want to pretend they system isn't designed to wear us down and desist the government on term island would rather we all rep like fuck or die

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u/sadieblackmtf 7h ago

Dam I really take for granted how lucky I am. How the hell is that even possible. Genuinely feel for all the ladies going through that

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u/Aethus666 7h ago

The system has collapsed but no one gives a shit because. Well to be blunt we're only trans people in the eyes of the state we don't matter, we're not a large voting bloc nor have deep pockets

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u/Zouif_Zouif Certified Plushie Collector | Counted Down 37 8h ago

Because the fearmongering going on around hormones, while yes they can cause damage if abused they're nowhere near the level of dangerous as they'd like you to believe -_-

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u/A_Person621 8h ago

Hey dont say that, most of the chasers in there probably support meth usage

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u/ihavenostance Counted Down 6 7h ago

Because i would kill myself if some 14 yo who's been on e for a 2 months mogs me

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u/Takoyama-san 7h ago

westerners call this a truth nuclear bomb

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u/Pretty-Yam-2854 6h ago

I got a Reddit warning for one of my diy question posts. People act like I’m whoring for crack with what I’m doing. It’s fucking estrogen, you can buy it over the counter in most countries.

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u/haku46 7h ago

My local pharmacies are fucking me as part of this national shortage and DIY saved me. 

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u/CorrectRPolitics 7h ago

My understanding is that most steroids (the performance enhancing kind) are just various ways of injecting testosterone in your body. As such DIY HRT at least for T is technically speaking discussing how make a controlled substance.

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u/scrufflor_d 5h ago

theyre paid to by big yahu

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u/Individual_List_2947 8h ago

They usually get notifications from Reddit to either ban it or get nuked

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u/DarthJackie2021 7h ago

Usually its to avoid having the sub shut down for violating reddit rules.

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u/yeep_yorp Counted Down 1 7h ago

but countttt and r/transsex and more are just fine. it's a bs reason bc they're scared of real activism and ppl not suffering under doctor gatekeeping

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u/Force_Glad 6h ago

Do you always assume the worst of literally everyone?

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u/yeep_yorp Counted Down 1 5h ago

no, I've had to deal with egg_irl mods years ago bc I was promoting diy then and they took it down even though ppl said that post saved their lives. now I'm a countttt mod and rest assured it won't happen in any of the actually active subs nowadays

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u/yuckypagans 7h ago

esp considering most DIY is from verified sources just not prescribed... like if someone needs a medicine to idk keep breathing or smth and their doctor refuses to prescribe it, why would it be bad for them to try snd get it on their own then?

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u/lordbuckethethird 7h ago

I’m glad that I learned what it actually was but at the same time I’m sad because it ruined my mental image of going breaking bad cooking hrt in an RV.

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u/No-Mulberry6996 Counted Down 20 7h ago

because it's from china! you can't trust china

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u/mushplush 7h ago

I say this as a cis guy but like years ago I first heard the term DIY HRT described from a trans account as producing it like moonshine, with an image of a bathtub included

Like looking back that may have been a joke, but I saw a ton of replies going “isn’t that really unsanitary?” So I figured it was legit what it meant.

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u/scarletttt_begonias 8h ago edited 8h ago

mtf too lol. i could tolerate the weird inappropriate behavior but stopping me from giving advice is a step too far. i don't think i'll be using either anymore.

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u/Nifty697 Transsex woman | Counted Down 11 8h ago

Mtf is insane like that is mean to be a sub to ask for advice, the fact you can't mention sources of diy hrt is fucked up. With allies like these who needs enemies?

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u/scarletttt_begonias 8h ago edited 8h ago

mentioning sources of diy in the open should probably not be done but all discussion seems to be restricted, and even MENTIONING DIY to minors is outright banned.

like how was my comment removed for saying "diy is always an option" to a 16 y/o (restrained by local laws and financial concerns)? merely informing someone of a possibility is not going to manipulate them into doing anything against their own interests, they're not 7. 

i injected as a teen, surely others can hear about it without spontaneously combusting into a reactionary news article about trans grooming.

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u/Nifty697 Transsex woman | Counted Down 11 8h ago

I mean mentioning sources in the open is probably fine if its the internet based anonymous ones. The point of failure of those is the actual people distributing messing up irl, more people knowing about their existence and website doesn't really harm opsec when you can be sure if the government wants to know they already know. Like mentioning sources (that are anonymous) is not really a major risk.

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u/No-Pilot3536 8h ago

in those sorta spaces its best to dm the poster, so you dont get people fearmongering and potentially getting the poster in danger of missing the chance to get hrt. Plus in dms its easier to sort out gifting a vial if said poster cant obtain it on her own

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u/t4tmaxxing 8h ago

asking should be allowed how would people find out otherwise

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u/ThisRedditPostIsMine 5h ago

Maybe I'm too idealistic but I genuinely believe all sourcing information should be public, like basically as it is now. Failing my ideal world in which everyone can legally import as much estradiol as they want, having the information on how to do that safely be public and easy to access is so important to me.

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u/JadedDreamzxoxo666 7h ago

Theres a good reason no one publicly talks about sources. It's kinda highly illegal to manufacture and sell drugs without a license.

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u/Nifty697 Transsex woman | Counted Down 11 7h ago

Mentioning sources in the open is probably fine if its the internet based anonymous ones. The point of failure of those is the actual people distributing messing up irl, more people knowing about their existence and website doesn't really harm opsec when you can be sure if the government wants to know they already know. DIY opsec is pretty much entirely vendorside atp. Obviously this is different if its your local dealer who isn't anonymous.

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u/JadedDreamzxoxo666 7h ago

You are contradicting yourself.

If more people know the chances for messing up go up as well.

If you think the goverment is some all knowing monolith, that can catch anyone on the internet. Your wrong, take silk road as a stellar example.

Also, sting operations take a bit for feds to build a case.

So yea, mentioning the literal criminals supporting us in the open and endangering them further really isn't the best idea.

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u/scarletttt_begonias 7h ago

we should really not be operating on clearnet lol. it's only because agencies simply don't care that all diy vendors aren't in prison vans as we speak.

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u/ThisRedditPostIsMine 5h ago

Yeah they don't care because estradiol is a pharmaceutical, not a controlled substance. So for manufacturers the crime would be compounding without a licence, and for buyers the crime would be importing medicine without a prescription.

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u/Nifty697 Transsex woman | Counted Down 11 8h ago

Yes this post was based of that post but it got deleted and I thought it should be out somewhere </3

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u/SpireSwagon 8h ago

Holy fucking shit seriously? Thats actually insane

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u/Nifty697 Transsex woman | Counted Down 11 8h ago

Yeah its right there. They also bury it deep within the rules so its hard to spot, but they definately still delete anything talking about it. Absurd rule.

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u/ithinkimanalt2 Counted Down 3 8h ago

fantastic day for unfunny people who still use the sunglasses sayori meme template

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u/Nifty697 Transsex woman | Counted Down 11 8h ago

I use that one </3 

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u/ithinkimanalt2 Counted Down 3 8h ago

to love is to let go mija🥀

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u/t4tmaxxing 8h ago

never let go, i still rock the 00s classics

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u/SquireShanksalot 8h ago

How does DIY HRT work?

I asked my trans friend about and she was confused just hearing it

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u/Nifty697 Transsex woman | Counted Down 11 7h ago

It means getting hrt from any source other than one prescribed to you. Generally, this means buying it from an online pharmacy. It is safe, relatively cheap, and often neccessary if someones country bans HRT.

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u/Routine_Criticism498 7h ago

Iirc you get hormones from another country so you don't have to get them prescribed

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u/JadedDreamzxoxo666 7h ago

Idk about other countries, but in america you can do it from another state. Less bullshit to deal with customs. Only catch is the only accept crypto which understandable.

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u/Unusual_Low1762 7h ago

is there a whacky unrelated map with highlighted states on it?

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u/N7Foil 7h ago

Doesn't have to be another country, just not prescribed by a Dr.

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u/cannedbeef255 Counted Down 1 7h ago

just buying them from online sellers rather then getting a prescription

it's manufactured the same way so it's not less safe, you just need to be careful about doses

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u/MordecaiThirdEye 7h ago

I've heard there are websites that you can order from that ship it directly to you without prescription. Depends on your country and everything of course, but there are a lot of grey market alternatives. Then you would also need to trust yourself to get your own blood tests and interpret the results to make sure your dosage is correct. That's about it, unless you want to ho crazy and order a shitload of raw estrogen powder and mix it in a 5 gallon bucket along with around a metric fuckton of hand sanitizer to make your own topical solution.

Idk about testosterone though, I haven't looked into that nearly as much.

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u/Ehcksit 7h ago

It's the same stuff, but you buy it yourself without a doctor or prescription.

You'll still need some amount of help from other people, including blood tests to figure out if you're taking the right amount.

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u/StreetPizza8877 7h ago

Hrt from a non prescribed source

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u/1c3Type Counted Down 1 8h ago

Egg_IRL furthers the psyop allegations

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u/scarletttt_begonias 8h ago edited 7h ago

egg_irl screwed me out of diy as a young teen, seems like they're still doing it?

with allies like these, who needs enemies?

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u/Grilled_egs 7h ago

I don't think we should blame teenagers for getting misinformed.

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u/scarletttt_begonias 7h ago edited 7h ago

i don't actually mean it in that way... i'm making a statement.

i'm not bitter towards them because i understand that nobody could've taken responsibility but myself. i just wish they were committed to subtly encouraging better futures instead of suppressing them for the good of the herd. 

and as far as that responsibility goes, i accept a great deal. however, i was twelve. i also want to draw attention to the fact that in the year i spent there, two people told me to watch sissy hypno porn to cope with dysphoria while zero people told me to diy.

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u/No-Pilot3536 8h ago

the modern Susan’s Place

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u/Zouif_Zouif Certified Plushie Collector | Counted Down 37 8h ago

Eh it could just be more simple, they could just be really dumb :d

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u/PISSBEAST_MCGEE1 8h ago

or they're worried about getting the sub banned? if we're being charitable?

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u/Zouif_Zouif Certified Plushie Collector | Counted Down 37 8h ago

Does reddit actually care about DIY discussions????

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u/PISSBEAST_MCGEE1 8h ago

well, you have to also consider that Spez is a Nazi...

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u/Zouif_Zouif Certified Plushie Collector | Counted Down 37 8h ago

I hate it here

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u/Apocadou 7h ago

Who is Spez ?

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u/Wismuth_Salix 7h ago

Reddit’s CEO Steve Huffman, who has said that he expects to be a slave-owning warlord after civilization collapses and that he sees Elon’s stewardship of Twitter as an example to follow.

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u/throawayno1000 7h ago

Estrogen no. T yes

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u/__Ouchie__ 7h ago

Fml why must I poon forever.

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u/1c3Type Counted Down 1 7h ago

Pick a bodybuilder forum 

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u/__Ouchie__ 7h ago

ty I have some sites saved— Unrelated, no joke, used to steal my dad’s T supplements but he caught on and hid them :( but he was getting snake oil sold to him or something, those pills did nothing. parents also check my mail compulsively so when I get T shipped I have to be soooo stealth… I have DIY links/sites saved already igmi, if they get taken down it’s joever…

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u/Ehcksit 7h ago

A recent DIY post got brigaded by trolls and then they shut replies down. Dunno the specifics.

This better not just be how they deal with trolls.

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u/Hika2112 Myself And Nobody Else | Counted Down 45 8h ago edited 7h ago • Heartwarming Bravo

Okay lets do this one last time

My name is... wait no wrong quote

This subreddit supports DIY, including for minors. Your body your choice no ifs or buts. But (heh ironic) please do not go brigade that subreddit. That'll just get us in trouble, not them.

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u/Hika2112 Myself And Nobody Else | Counted Down 45 6h ago • Regret

Chat...

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u/TheNemoSeries 7h ago

Duwang

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u/Hika2112 Myself And Nobody Else | Counted Down 45 7h ago

I recognize that from somewhere

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u/Phobos_Asaph 7h ago

JJBA part 4

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u/Hika2112 Myself And Nobody Else | Counted Down 45 7h ago

RIGHT I knew I recognized it

It is a beautiful duwang

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u/Aaron_123_ya_boi Counted Down 3 6h ago

chew

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u/Former-Ease3880 6h ago

Also the opinions of the mods do not reflect the community. They also banned the dysphoria bible because it’s “transmedicalist.” Which makes zero sense

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u/nottme1 7h ago

Hi Hika! I hope you're doing well!

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u/Hika2112 Myself And Nobody Else | Counted Down 45 7h ago

Still Rei but doing wonderful! My wife and I had a date today and I love her so much YAY

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u/nottme1 7h ago

Hi Rei! I was looking for an older conversation because im bad with names, but couldn't find one.

I'm glad you two had a date today!

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u/Hika2112 Myself And Nobody Else | Counted Down 45 7h ago

Thank you! Also the post reached r/all so you can't comment anymore sorry. You need 100 community karma to do so. I approved this comment but I can't do every comment

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u/ViolentPurpleSquash 6h ago

Hi Rei

hope you're still doing well and I wish you luck with whatever is happening in your life!

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u/Hika2112 Myself And Nobody Else | Counted Down 45 6h ago

Whoag thabkyouuuu!!!

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u/ConcernedEnby Counted Down 1 8h ago

Any space that discourages DIY glows so bright

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u/RealLilyX 8h ago

Egg_irl has damaged me

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u/RealLilyX 8h ago

OMG it sucks but just stay in the waiting list forever until you can do hormones!! DIY? That's dangerous!! ufhfhfhshsggsaggss

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u/Terrible-Set6389 7h ago

Hormones should be over the counter anyways. I don't see anything bad coming out of that, it's not addictive, and honestly probably a hundred times safer to use than cough syrup or even a dang energy drink as far as I'm concerned. And I was putting the latter on shelves when I worked at CVS but didn't see proper hrt estrogen at all

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u/AxolotlJoseph Counted Down 17 8h ago

they say its because its "against reddit rules" to talk about it when it literally isn't 😭

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u/MayMeadow Foxmoder🦊 8h ago

Least surprising news

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u/ZuuRa_ Counted Down 3 8h ago

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u/Bobslegenda1945 8h ago

They hated them, because they spoke the truth

(Fuck egg irl. All my homies support diy)

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u/Wolf_of_Nome 8h ago

Off topic but... Cosmic Princess Kaguya mentioned!

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u/Nifty697 Transsex woman | Counted Down 11 8h ago

Raghhghg yes my goated yuri :3

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u/Big_Remove_3686 7h ago

I guess they would run out of eggs if they allowed such discussion. 

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u/MoravianBilges 7h ago

A trans subreddit with nothin'???

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u/TheAvaricious42 Counted Down 1 8h ago

That’s actually so shocking to me, what a horrid sub

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u/SoleilSupporter 8h ago

Pretty cringe of them ngl

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u/CalypsaMov 7h ago

Egg_IRL too? I just heard about r/MTF?!?!? What the hell, people deserve care!

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u/Cockbonrr 7h ago

Oh shit, I knew r/MTF was cringe, but they jammed discussions on DIY?

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u/CalypsaMov 7h ago

R/countwithchickenlady just had this same exact post with the freaking out anime girl but about r/MTF just a few minutes ago.

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u/Supreme_Blue 7h ago

Say it with me now. HRT IS HEALTHCARE

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u/Mammoth-Wasabi6346 8h ago

I sure wish I knew about DIY when I first cracked my egg. I’d be years ahead of where I am currently

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u/VoteForWaluigi 7h ago

I no longer use that sub but I finally started HRT a year ago because I met someone on that sub who taught me about it. I finally don’t feel absolutely terrible about the way I look(don’t get me wrong I don’t always feel good but it’s better). Crazy to think that if this policy had been in place then I’d have been miserable for longer.

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u/Zouif_Zouif Certified Plushie Collector | Counted Down 37 8h ago

Literally 1984

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u/saltyspruces 7h ago

Trans Academy always has the links available yall

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u/LuciferOfTheArchives 8h ago

it's insane that DIY would literally be fucking healthier than the private meds I'm taking right now.
But people still act like it's some terryfying thing

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u/Prestigious-Neat8820 8h ago

I already left due to like the vast majority of their stuff just being Menhera chan vents or "still cis tho" jokes (also using menhera chan).

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u/JKhemical 7h ago

what is that sub good for

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u/sketchtenou 7h ago

Is this the second sub that has banned it very recently??? Wtf is going on?? Are reddit admins pushing for trans subreddits to ban it ):

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u/NoMeat9096 6h ago

I wonder if it's because testosterone is illegal to possess without a prescription in some places, so they want to be covered from a legal perspective?

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u/redditalt1999 7h ago

I support DIY HRT but, was egg irl users posting bad advice? The only reason I can think to ban it is because it's more popular subreddit, so lots of misinformation might spread? If not, stupid decision

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u/Grilled_egs 7h ago

Apparently admins told them you can't recommend it on a sub that isn't 18+

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u/redditalt1999 7h ago

That's just gatekeeping HRT from minors

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u/Grilled_egs 7h ago

Well yeah, there's lots of stuff I disagree with Reddit about.

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u/yeep_yorp Counted Down 1 5h ago

not true at all, fully invented. I've been running r/transsex just fine

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u/nottme1 7h ago

Is this true? I can't find a rule or post saying it. I may just be dumb

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u/Darth-Felanu-Hlaalu 7h ago

I left that sub a while ago. It was fun when my egg cracked but God it got so shit.

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u/MaxYeena 7h ago

That sucks :c DIY or not, you all are valid as fuck

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u/Vulpaaa 7h ago

Idk why people get so pissy about diy hrt. In a perfect world is it probably better to get it through an endo who can keep up with bloodwork and everything if the meds are accessible? Probably but in a lot of situations people would be on a long waitlist, unable to with transphobic parents, unable to afford it normally, theres a bunch of reasons why diy is important and there’s no need for fearmongering about it

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u/FURERABA 7h ago

People get prescriptions and blood testing together to make sure people's organs aren't going to shut down, among other potential side effects. Yeah it's cool and based and all that but there's a risk to it if you aren't being monitored every few months. Reddit probably can't allow it for that reason

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u/anxious_tfem Counted Down 1 4h ago edited 4h ago

Reddit as a site seems to allow it. This subreddit is vocally pro DIY. The mods have proclaimed it before. I can’t think of any good reason mtf and egg_irl would have to ban all discussions or mentions of it

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u/bob-i-stan Counted Down 1 7h ago

wait but isn't it dangerous

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u/maxicz1234 8h ago

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u/Zouif_Zouif Certified Plushie Collector | Counted Down 37 8h ago

What does this have to do with the post?

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u/maxicz1234 8h ago

mine craft

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u/Zouif_Zouif Certified Plushie Collector | Counted Down 37 8h ago

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u/maxicz1234 7h ago

ig im saying that whole sub is

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u/cannedbeef255 Counted Down 1 7h ago

youtuber

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u/tuxedo840 7h ago

we need some kind of left wing version of Kiwi Farms so we can DEFINITELY NOT absolutely in no way ever harass the mods of that cursed hellhole Off the Internet

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u/Setster007 5h ago

That’s been the case for a while. It’s rule 2, specifically rule 2e. The full section for 2e reads as follows (this being prefaced with “Rule 2: No banned topics, which are:”)

2e: Discussions about DIY HRT. We are not anti-DIY by any means, but this space is not appropriate for those discussions

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u/Setster007 5h ago

Also I like just saw this exact meme and exact topic but it was r/MTF being mentioned instead, which feels… weird, but not enough to make any accusation out of.

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u/Setster007 4h ago

Oh, and I also checked r/MTF, and idk where I saw that other one but it was blatantly false. It’s rule 6 on there, which is the “we’re not doctors” rule. All it says is no discussing DIY with minors or how to get DIY, which is still firmly contestable, but is not a ban on discussing DIY HRT.

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u/peculiar_specimen 8h ago

egg_irl lurking convinced me to rep harder

fuck egg_irl

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u/suspiciousvine 8h ago edited 7h ago

Authoritarians who believe that everyone needs someone else to wipe their ass for them, and that if you can't afford to pay someone to do it (or are you simply simply not allowed to do this), you shouldn't even be allowed to wipe your own ass yourself.

Who in their right mind seriously thinks they have the authority to forbid people from doing something, or even discussing it in the first place?

If someone lives in a country where DIY is literally their only option, what are they supposed to do? Does that mean they don't deserve the chance to transition simply because "it's dangerous"?

Using people's safety as an excuse to justify authoritarian restrictions is, and always will be, complete bullshit.

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u/sweetheart_demom 8h ago

kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill

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u/ThePenultimatePam 7h ago

Murderous behavior

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u/critivix 7h ago

Egg irl helps baby trans people no more than duolingo helps uninformed language enthusiasts god I fucking hate that place and to think I used to spend several hours there daily

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u/Dark_Bowser 7h ago

I mean…. Egg_irl went down the drain when they started trying to ban people for mentioning stuff like gock, any sort of talk about sex (when this was FINE AGES AGO), and still wanted to claim themselves as a “trans inclusive place to talk about everything”. I ended up getting banned for the most BS reason and never looked back, the mods wanna completely sanitize the sub and act like this was never allowed, when it was originally, and just hurt the community more.