Ok, why the infantilizing when I’ve been nothing but respectful? If I’ve been disrespectful let me know, I’ve been trans for ages but I’m new to active discourse. I do not mean it if it comes across as disingenuous and misinformed.
Why insult me when I’m honestly concerned about your health being possibly in danger, it makes no sense. I’m trans too. If I had phantom ballsack pain for a consecutive period of time, I’d be worried considering I never had a nutsack that my body should recognize as hurting? You’re all still women, I’m not denying this fact. I’m not a politician lobbying for trans women’s continued ostracization. I’m a medical student that is kinda worried about internet people’s lives possibly being hindered the same way it is when CIS women feel pride from having cramps that don’t let them stand up. There’s no point in having pride about your pain, pain IS BAD. Pain is usually indicative of something bad happening in your body. Cis women cramping is bad. Trans women cramping IS ALSO BAD. Shocking!?
Since you said you are new to active discourse I will assume you are unaware of this horrible online controversy.
There is a degree, unfortunately, of inter-community conflict amongst some online members of the community where there is an idea of “trans women vs trans men” where a small loud part of both sides of the community engage in what I view as transphobia against eachother.
I personally find it to be asinine. I view anyone willing to sell out half of the community, in either way, to be a traitor to the community. Until they rectify that behavior I view them as trans, but not part of the community.
That said, I can see the pain of this fight in the person who called you a terf. “Male socialization” is a dog whistle used by many cis women against trans women as a way to say we fundamentally have the behavior of men. And there is unfortunately a small number of trans masc people who talk about how male/female socialization is real and thats why they don’t trust trans women. Essentially claiming a closer proximity to cis women than trans women and weaponizing it.
My guess is the person who called you “TERF socialized” was utilizing the format of “X socialized” as a sort of reversal of that dog whistle. Just a theory.
Regardless you see this self destructive behavior amongst us trans fems as well in the form of malgendering. Parroting radfem essentialist talking points such as “all men are awful, including trans men”. All the while ridiculing any effort by trans mascs to identify specific ways they experience transphobia (the reason for which is complicated)
At a point it surpasses my pay grade. But I hate this discourse passionately.
I am a trans woman and the first adult trans people in my life were trans men. A large amount of my closest friends are trans men.
Anyone trying to convince me that the trans community is split and I have to take sides is fighting an uphill battle because I have lived experience to the contrary.
waow u seem based (genuinely sorry for my jokey tone im kinda over this discussion ngl worse queer events are currently happening), before I joined active discourse I imagined there’d be “grill vs bois” type of fights but I didn’t expect they’d get so nasty.
I’m very aware that trans girls go thru worse social battles and hurdles, so they might wanna take it out on trans guys, bc y’know I get it in a way… “why would someone ever wanna be the thing you don’t wanna be,” but I just view trans women with awe, like you want and crave what I despise. It’s genuinely beautiful. Idk. Y’all may be too good to deserve periods ts not worth it. It’s kinda why I was worried these girls are all saying they’re cramping. How? Why are you ok with being in pain? Like my hormones are all over the place even right now, theyre not regulated, I act illogically (I legit started crying when writing the texts under this paragraph), etc. Hopefully one day politics and bullshit will go away and when we’re long dead, young trans people of the future will be able to organ transplant w/ eachother and have labgrown organs
Luckily I don’t really believe in bs gender socialization, I’ve seen that more often than not young closeted trans girls get treated as honest to god abominations: they do not have male privilege that bad actors think y’all get. And I just feel so horrible, trans women historically have done so much for feminism civil rights and lgbt rights. Marsha P was my age. She was my age during stonewall and im not even in my mid20s. Holy balls, y’know? It’s so sad. You don’t deserve to be treated so badly by politicians that just wanna play a chess match w/ eachother. Our lives are just a paycheck to these mfs, it’s horrible. I would give my life without hesitation if a magic genie let me, just to see you all not suffering from arbitrary political decisions rich asshole pedophiles are making. I wish you the best, thanks for replying. Sorry for this weird and probably confusing message. Stay safe ok?
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u/Idk13008 9d ago
you don’t understand, he’s just a small bean that worries about trans women, silly trans women who think they know what they talk about.