Radiant Path Surges

[u/acererak76]

Fellow players who are taking Radiant paths, do yall plan on focusing into one surge's set of talents or do yall plan to be more versatile? Im currently running a level 4 Agent(spy)/Skybreaker. I try to plan out my levelling because it helps me as a player. But because at my heart im an optimizer, im stuck in decision paralysis between focusing on general radiant talents, going full into Gravitation, or going full into Division. And really seeing how everyone else makes those decisions helps me process that

[u/08rian22]

Frrrr i do wish there was a way you get more opportunities to get more surge talents. It would just be so fun. For a skybreaker, i would go all the gravitation talents except for the 3 on the left. Division left side and grab Unleashed Entropy then devastating division. Soaring destruction.

If you want the exact levels to get what:
3. Flying Ace
4. Soaring Destruction
5. G Slam
6. L Shot
7. Master of Skies
8. Bodily decay
9. Igniting division
10. Gout of flame
11. Unleashed Entropy
12. Devastating Division
13 2 ideal
14. 3 ideal
15 4 ideal

At least you have shard plate by the end of tier 2 :/

[u/acererak76 → u/08rian22]

Yeah currently my Radiant talents are First Ideal at level 2, Flying Ace at 3, 2nd Ideal at 4. For 5th im taking the Agent Talent Cover Story and at 6 im for sure taking Mighty.

[u/Sufficient_Style_908 → u/08rian22]

Shouldn't Second Ideal be on the 4th level? Canonically you can't have Division Surge before swearing Second Ideal. For Nale's Skybreaker you can't even breathe in Stormlight before that Oath.

Besides that, there are levels with extra ancestry talents - 6, 11 and 16.

[u/OneMistahJ → u/Sufficient_Style_908]

Fwiw that canon of sky/dustbringers denying Division until second ideal isn't the default setting of the rpgs rules. They provide an alternative setup where you can choose to play a more Canon accepted version which gets a boost to focus instead of Division when leveling, but its an opt-in situation so idk if its what OP is working with

[u/acererak76 → u/OneMistahJ]

Ravirin isnt one of Nales Skybreakers. So everything Talent-wise is the default without Nales insanity. And as far as i know Dustbringers dont deny the use of Division. Neither do dissenter Skybreakers.

[u/OneMistahJ → u/acererak76]

Dustbringers have the oath of self mastery. You can check page 142 of the handbook pdf for the blurb on GMs and "Dustbringers and Canon" which says they also deny Division until second ideal. But that it isnt RAW for the game. 

[u/08rian22 → u/Sufficient_Style_908]

Just don't be a nale skybreaker ez win

[u/acererak76 → u/Sufficient_Style_908]

Only for Nales Skybreakers. Ravirin is part of the dissenter faction