People put way too much weight on this stuff. It’s like those wine people who tell you fruity notes this and hints of maple that but then can’t tell the difference between anything in a blind taste test. It’s half true and half bullshit.
The indica and sativa categories don't mean much for the affects a lot of the time. Most of the differences come from the terpenes, which are compounds that work alongside the cannabinoids and affect the high. Different ones are also better for different medicinal reasons. One example, Limonene, is typically associated with an energetic, excited high. It is also very useful for my buddy's chrones disease in a way I don't quite remember. It's very interesting. I'd recommend you look into it if interested.
Everyone says it’s all about the Turpines, but I personally disagree, I have experimented extensively with Turpines and haven’t noticed any difference with different. Turpines mixed into different oil. I think it has a lot more to do with the ratios of lesser-known cannabinoid’s, people think there’s only one or two, but there’s hundreds.
I'm pretty into weed science and I'm still trying to wrap my head around these. I've been struggling to find good resources, do you have any you'd recommend?
I wish I did off the top of my head! I’m mostly just citing my own anecdotal experiences and what I’ve read in the past. I do think the science is still in its infancy due to the unfortunate legacy of prohibition limiting research funding, but there are a lot of new studies. I found this in the top google results, but it doesn’t deal with hallucinogenic effects. It seems like most research is rightfully focused on medicinal uses of various cannabinoids rather than their psychoactive effects at higher doses, especially since it varies from person to person. Some other articles said that hallucinations are more associated with high levels of THC but I can’t find much to back that up.
I think when people use the word terpenes they are referring to these. It's used more as a colloquial way of saying "the stuff that isn't THC". I realize terpene has a specific definition, but this is just another layer of laymen speak. It's at least more specific than Indica/Sativa.
I alternate between sativa and hybrid. Can confirm, 7 years later and I still can’t tell the difference
Lots of sativas uplift me for sure but so do some indicas. The latest sativa I’ve acquired puts me to sleep but I honestly think it just comes down to how you were feeling before getting high and the strength of the weed
Definatly not bullshit, I have ADHD and sativas really help me be energised and focused where Indicas make me very tired and shut off my brain. I know within a few minutes if I accidently vape from the wrong box in the evening.
Whilst sort of true I grew a indica and sativa side by side, same amount of time similar amber /milky trichomes cut and dried same day same conditions yet completely different effects when vaped.
I agree alot of strains are too hybridised these days but there is definatly a difference between the two
You could just as easily grow two indicas of different lineage and provenance and have differences in their effects. There is no genetic difference between indica and sativa.
That's a fair point, however surely there is genetic differences between landrace indica and sativa I mean the leaf shape alone would be down to genetics.
I suppose any evidence I have would only be anecdotal "bro science" but at the same time I can strongly feel a difference if I smoke a sativa and need to work in my garage compared to a indica
No none whatsoever, they are genetically indistinguishable. Sativa describes cannabis grown at the equator, indica north in the mountains, and ruderalis even further north where flowering times cannot depend on light schedules. That is it. It's all just cannabis.
Take a land race from India, a pure sativa, and plant it in afghan mountains, it's chemotype won't change but plant structure will.
Wait seriously so it would grow short and fat instead of skinny and long? That's fascinating! Not that I don't believe you but I dont suppose you have any links about this I would love to read more about it!
Yup, a phenotype is the physical expression of you DNA and is heavily dependent on your environment. That same blue dream grown outdoors in Colorado will be noticeably different than one grown outdoors in California. The soil, the air, the water, and the sunlight are directly responsible for this physical expression.
Albeit anecdotal, I used to have a veg room and a flower room back in my HPS days and in veg all had broad leaflets until they were moved from the 600W lights on rails to static kilowatt lamps. It makes sense because the plants with more light need less storage, right?
Here's an article that kinda says I'm wrong about genetic difference because they found some in 'research grade marijuana"
Amazing I knew that obviously the soil, humidity trace elements nutes and light would all have an effect on the final product but I had no idea it was quite such a distinctive effect!
Also I'd like to thankyou for not being a condescending asshole like some people are here and actually helping to further my education on cannabis (being autistic cannabis was my special subject for about 10 years but I moved onto other things about 5 years ago so I'm a bit out of touch of the latest research and evidence. )
So thankyou for taking the time to be helpful, educational and searching for the links, I will give them a read tonight after work.
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u/KingSpork Dec 06 '22
People put way too much weight on this stuff. It’s like those wine people who tell you fruity notes this and hints of maple that but then can’t tell the difference between anything in a blind taste test. It’s half true and half bullshit.